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23rd
Oct 2017
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 00:41
it also makes running larger squads worth it, so I guess more incentive for me to run iyanden
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Oct 23 2017 03:06
@Thairne i prob wouldnt have gone up to moot. do maybe black > caliban > warpstone (with variation to mixes)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 07:26
yeah, I know that now. I remembered after I saw that neon glow that I used caliban > 50:50 cal/warpstone > warpstone the last time.. about 18 months ago.
now I have to fix that somehow or strip 3 rhinos and redo that entire shit.. which I am definately NOT fond of
or I could just respray the moot green parts. which tbh sounds like a better idea.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 07:33
I could even go so far and respray the sides with the 50% mix of caliban/warpstone most parts to get a transition to the pure warpstone on top... hm.
respray the top with caliban and go from there or try and fix it up with warpstone over the moot?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 10:54
we need a new label. Resolution - Request was stupid.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Oct 23 2017 10:56
:)
which ticket?
the one I closed, #1661?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 10:56
the one you answered 4h ago.. limit the numbers of detachments
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Oct 23 2017 10:57
yeah, not just stupid, also really unclear.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 11:03
what about <Resolution - that's a paddlin'>
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 11:32
:+1: I can get behind that one
Wizzdk
@Wizzdk
Oct 23 2017 16:51
Does that mean you'd like a spanking? >_<
Anyway, is there any chance that the mobile edition could be pulled from the list of available catalogs? It's confusing a lot of people. :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 16:59
Talk to @WindstormSCR about that one
It’s a The Simpson’s reference @Wizzdk
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 17:47
I fixed them.
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Arne Kreutzmann
@dragongame
Oct 23 2017 17:56
@Thairne 👍🏻
I just noted that Hellhounds now make 2D6 shoots instead of D6 as in the index ... good that I have three 😆
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 17:57
yeah
couldnt have a bad guard unit, can we? :P
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Oct 23 2017 18:16
Okay that dread is fucking awesome
I miss the awesomeness of Sevrin
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 18:19
So I think it’s safe to assume Cyraxus is finally around the corner
@Kohato hey look it’s culln’s final form lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 23 2017 18:28
Please. Final form.
He has yet to resurrect as golden Cullen in the movie resurrection C
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 18:31
@Wizzdk if its becoming a significant problem (and evidence of such is provided). Kind of amusing Since I returned to working on it last night
@alphalas I'l beleive it's final form when he is some sort of superheavy
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 18:47
I've just done a catalog of how much actual stuff I'd need to implement, and concluded that it's just too much work for a single person to achieve at the current pace of release
So I'll talk to @amis92 and get it pulled
I'll see what I can contribute here, possibly help whoever is maintaining the eldar sections
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:16
sad face
but happy to have you on board on this side of the fence..
just how much is still outstanding with the mobile files..??
are they really THAT different to normal ones?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:16
if I hadn't been 'promoted' (aka different title, same pay more work with one minor benfit) I would have been able to keep up
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:17
not flipping real life getting in the way again..!!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:18
it does that
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:18
shakes fist
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:18
that's why Mfiles have been fairly dead until yesterday
I'll probably just do the eldar ones and go back to using a personal repository for my own use
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:19
just how much help do you need??
(and, yay, Eldar, of course!!)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:20
checklist to do: chaos FW index, pretty much every codex, lots of bugfix, and power levels for pretty much everything
so about ~3 months of releases....
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:20
eeep
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:21
yeah, it's just not feasible to do solo, even as a barebones
on the plus side by going back to personal I can stick the corsair codex in there (which will be getting a revision once I've had time to digest the eldar codex)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 19:25
I’m tempted to make a BSR for the HH 8e fandex- but don’t really have the time or motivation-.-
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:29
that would definintely be easier for you :smile: at 126 issues it looks like your bugs have gotten out of control
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Oct 23 2017 19:32
you know.. you could recruit.
This wouldnt be possible if it just would be Amis...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 19:33
Well the issue with 30k currently now is it’s just @zopha @capitaladot and I - and I have barely touched the file over the past 2-3 months
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:33
I tried
no one seemed interested except a single dude, and you guys have had enough to do with this!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 19:34
That and as much as I think the HH8e ruleset is better (being 8e), it’s still just a fan set
That’s like the kroot fandex in 7e - good, but still a fandex
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:35
yeah, same with my corsairs one for 8th
zopha
@zopha
Oct 23 2017 19:37
Are the legion rules with rites just as insane as FW's?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:46
@WindstormSCR don't be sad, you did a good job, and if the original idea was something for yourself then don't feel selfish if no-one else chipped in...
part of me want to say "pick meeeee I'l do it"!! but I know I don't have time
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:47
lol
it was originally to help a few friends with older phones to work stuff quickly, but with the upgrades to battlescribe and fav'd units working again on mobile they've just started using the main ones again
now the real question of the day:
dire avcenger exarch loadouts
4 MSU squads, 2 to a wave serpent
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:49
Asurmen
he's your exarch
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 19:49
thinking: power glive/pistol | power glaive/pistol | double guns | double guns
@zopha seems more reasonable to me
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 19:57
no shimmershields?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 20:30
now, do I attempt to hack together a codex using the leaks, or just wait until it comes out and try to get on it as quickly as I can...?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 23 2017 20:36
Both
Start with the leaks you have on a branch, and flesh out after drop
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 20:40
righto, I'll get to it then :smile:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:03
@FarseerVeraenthis did they drop the points? otherwise that's 20 for a 5++ on the squad, exarch always get a 4++ anyway so it didn't seem very useful
I didn't see or hear anything about a lower cost on them
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:05
i didn't either, I've not used them, but an invuln always sounds like a good idea on expensive models
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:12
how are you going to use yours?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:21
mechanized
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:21
why not go all double guns?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:21
2 squads per WS to fill a battalion, possibly 2 MSU and a full squad for advancing on forward objectives
I play maelstrom a lot, so I anticipate the forward squads being charged
when they grab an obj
and the glaive makes the exarch sleeper-scary since that 4++ and a str 4 power weapon can be an unexpected surprise
the shimmershield only really helps if they're getting shot by a -3 weapon, which I doubt will ever happen, and even if it does that turns a 6+ into a 5++, not really worth 20 points. the glaive is 4, so economical and the exarch still has a shuriken pistol
(I'm assuming cover in the above scanerio)
since they're not running on foot I only expect them to get shot once they've done the main job of contesting/taking objectives
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:27
sounds like a solid plan to me
I purchased a diresword MTO dude because I liked the model
but otherwise my Dire avengers are still in the box waiting to be built
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:30
I'm building them as squads of 10 after some thought, since you can run 5 with no exarch and be fine
which is strange to me lore-wise, but I'm going to assume it's like combat-squads
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:36
hmmm... yeah, why wouldn't a shrine go to war without its leader - the exarch
unless that shrine doesn't have an exarch
maybe (whisper it) died already??
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:42
well, we know DA shrines are 10-strong, so combat squads makes sense there
it makes less for every other aspect but spectres and spears
both of those are 6-strong and min 3
oh, and banshees, which are 10
but all the others range from 6-9 in lore, and are min 5
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:44
I don't think that shrine can only be 10 strong, I think there can be as many as they like, but they just prefer to fight in 5's...?
perhaps
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:49
this is from the really old material
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:49
hmmm, I just never thought it was a strict 10 per
perhaps I should dig out my old material and have a re-read
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:50
its only been printed once, so who knows if it's even relevant anymore
gav thorpe's path books seem to be the latest "this is the current way things are"
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 21:53
hehehehe easy to miss then... and yes, I need to read the Path books
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 23 2017 21:55
if you haven't, I recommend them
the path of the seer will make you want to apply a slap to the main character, but the characterizations make more sense if you keep in mind that each of them are prone to extremes
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Oct 23 2017 22:15
hehehehe
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Oct 23 2017 23:43
Damn it are we off appspot again??