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Nov 2017
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Nov 02 2017 00:56
So bummed they didn't hit any of the minor craftworlds. Maybe when they do IA11v3 (in 2020 or whenever).
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 01:16
there was fluff for them, but I think they didn't do rules for them since the 5 traits we did get work fairly well for most of the minor playstyles
iyanden works pretty well as a yme-loc trait for example
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 02:53
milestone reached! army completely basecoated. only detail work left
@FarseerVeraenthis also got this set of files set up on my machine, so I should be ready for bug squashing where I can help
eldar cat is what I'll probably find the easiest because I play them, but I can work elsewhere as requested/have the time
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 06:42
Fabulous, fabulous :smile: always nice to reach painting milestones, I'm a long way behind with my Deathwatch... I will appreciate some help with bug fixing when it's ready, @ilaunchbury already helped with his list :+1:
Well, that's nasty, even for 360pts (currently)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 16:07
@FarseerVeraenthis reason I asked was we need to see what the ynarri update says as to where to pull craftworlders from
if it says index, well...
do I need to say it?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 16:34
@alphalas I would laugh, but the craftworlds codex does have a short section dealing with ynnari, http://puu.sh/ydaPo/b6c75c5e22.png
so there is explicit permission to use codex entries for ynnari, but they do not gain path of war, or craftworld attributes
it does mean you can use stratagems if you have a CWE detachment
and I suppose with the DG FAQ you can use treasures of the craftworlds to gain a relic or two
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 18:42
actually
wait
"it is no longer a craftworlds detachment"
so unless you explicitly give up SFD on a detachment you can't use strats either
lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 19:25
So pretty much it’s back to Eldar loose too much being Ynarri to be worth it?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Nov 02 2017 20:46
"lose too much"
Oh @alphalas you really make me laugh
Soulburst is the most insanely broken mechanic in the entire game
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 20:53
Didn’t they tone it down now?
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe giggles inanely.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Nov 02 2017 20:53
If it could only trigger when a Yynnnnaaarrrrriiiiiii unit dies, it would be fine
If the Whyncarne couldn't just bounce around like a god damned rubber ball every time something dies, it would be fine
But mostly, if the bitch couldn't just cast a spell and pass out a Soulburst like fucking candy, it would be fine. Because if there's anything in the entire game that shouldn't get to just shoot twice, it's Dark Reapers.
And in case anyone is wondering, it's bullshit like what I just described that makes people loathe Eldar.
tekton
@tekton
Nov 02 2017 22:13
We found out last night just how many Tyranid players are in our area...went from 0 to 7 showing up to our weekly event at my friend's place.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 22:13
honestly I don't see the point of the whining when other things exist that are worse, and ynnari aren't drawing top 2-3 every single tournament
they're unpleasant yes, but there is counterplay to them. I've trashed the other ynnari player every single time we've fought because there are ways to deal
rowboat, celestine and imperial assassins (as units, not the list) are far more worth complaining about due to the staggering level of value they provide for cost
@CrusherJoe how about we just agree "Trimvirate boxes were a mistake"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:28
I.... think... I might.. tick out and kill someone or... something... right about now...
you guys know that situation. You prep, build, magnetize and glue stuff. Carry it over to the kitchen to clean it up and once returning, you notice ONE part is just.. gone
in my case a flamer from kastellan
I looked for it for about 30 minutes, going totally binkers since it either HAD to be at my workstation OR in the kitchen.. BUT a like 4cm piece of plastic COULD JUST NOT BE FOUND!
So getting madder and madder, I took apart my workstation, cleaned everything, took everything out of the shelves and put it together in hopes of finding the elusive part.
No dice.
tekton
@tekton
Nov 02 2017 22:30
@Thairne I'm sorry :( I had some Paladins recently get actual teleporters apparently. But that just sounds maddening to just the flamer
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:30
wait, it gets better.
I then took the infiltrators I cleaned with the other small bits and placed em on the "to prime" spot.
it clanked and out from the infiltrators feet fell... a flamer.
so.. All is well, yes? Flamer found, workstation clean and tidy as ever?
UNTIL I NOTICED I also lost a primed heavy bolter and plasma assembly for my razorbacks!
Primed. Black. In a room with black shelves, black carpet, black litterally everything. And I have no idea how long THOSE 2 parts are missing.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 22:32
wtf, you need to give your house elf more food
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:32
and its 23:30 pm and I feel the urge to dissemble 3 billy shelves just to hope and find those 2 shit weapons
tekton
@tekton
Nov 02 2017 22:33
We replaced out billy shelves with Hemnes...still got black so it helped 0. But you're right that did get worse/better :(
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 22:34
Jesus @Thairne
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:35
thats almost as "funny" as when I "lost" the hood of Cawl back in the day. Couldnt find that tiny piece of plastic after the same procedure. Bought a new Cawl, still NOS sitting here, before I found it weeks later, primed, stuck to blu tac on a piece of wood I use to hold stuff while painting.
now, just in case, I have to remember where I bought those parts to eventually get a replacement...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 22:39
that is distressing
although, are they not available on eBay at less than your hourly rate...?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:40
razorback sprues are expensive...
and they come neither with lasplas or cannons or the likes
so I opted for 3rd party
Ah
T'was Kromlech.
but I really dont wanna dunk 18€ to get 2 bits. Gnah.... Maybe a lil' bit of searching left....
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:52
AHA! Found the bolter!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 22:53
epic
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 22:58
and I know as soon as I turn around that plasma thing will reappear, mocking me
2 out of 3 is ok though. Still aint paying 15 bucks for that (shipping).
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:11
relic validation is tedious
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:11
always was.
Always will be.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:11
yup
that's why I just put basic show/hides in and called it a day
do need to get the regiment show/hides working correctly - if @CrusherJoe hasn't already
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:13
uhuh, that's what I'm trying to do, keep it simple like
but with the fact that some of the dudes can't take power swords, means they can't replace them with a PS relic... but they can if they go Index
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:14
ehhhh
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:14
fuck index.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:14
so I've decided to let the users police that aspect themselves
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:14
if it has a codex datasheet, who cares about index data sheet?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:14
that's exactly what I did
gw and the users
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:14
Eldar players will care very much because they totally fucked up the autarch entries
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:14
remember, GW said index options are still valid.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:14
we use the newest publication. End of story.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:14
even the MTO autarch isn't playable without index
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:14
because if your codex datasheet doesn't allow you to take a power sword, you can't take a replacement relic unless you use the index datasheet - which may/may not come with different rules
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:15
@Thairne nope.
wish we could.
#1414 at the bottom
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:15
so then
give them the option
done.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:16
@FarseerVeraenthis
Screen Shot 2017-11-02 at 7.16.15 PM.png
I just need to add a handful of hide mods for regiments, but otherwise that's it.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:17
why does the allcaps nature of that amuse me so much?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:17
lol copy pasta from pub.
ePub*
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:17
you need to take care of your copy n paste fairy
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:17
I was being exceptionally lazy that day lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:17
I can just imagine someone yelling every time thier list of honors is read
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:18
lol
totally worth it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:18
"campaign badge, THE IRON STAR OF MORDIAN, distinguished service, etc"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:18
AND PRIVATE JENKINGS GETS AWARDED THE TRIPLE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!
for driving around heroically in his CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:19
so, uh, has anyone noticed just how bonkers the falchion is?
like the shadow sword is bonkers too, but the falchion - that's two shadowswords in one chassis, PLUS 2 LD arrays
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:20
oh, falchion
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:20
damn autocorrect
there fixed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:24
yeah, the falchion is pretty boss
was in 30k too
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:25
eh in 30k there are so many superheavys and things that are good dedicated AT that it wasn't AS bonkers as it is in 40k, imo
granted it's only killing like 3 tanks a turn, but it's 3 very dead tanks
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 02 2017 23:25
it had the ability to gain shock pulse, which is pretty dumb
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:26
or one or 2 SH a turn.
which is kinda big
true, shock pulse is kinda dumb
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:30
grumble plasma array... grumble
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:32
what are you sputtering about, old man?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:33
"hey constantly grumble about how today's Goblins are far smaller and weaker than they used to be, and how nothing is as well made as it was in their day. No young Dwarf would dare argue with them, for they indeed have the experience and the beard to prove it."
Grumbling is a sign of age and wisdom!
and actually im grumbling about the 3rd piece I didnt find yet.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:34
ah ok
wasn't sure if it was that or something related to shock pulse
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:36
I dont deal with eldary trickery
except when expunging
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:36
that was astartes
falchion
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:37
the new primaris super heavy?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:37
no
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:37
bah. If its not old, its heresy!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:38
well feth you. Now I want one!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:38
lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 02 2017 23:38
I dunno why or for what, but I need it!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:38
its fucking bonkers
tekton
@tekton
Nov 02 2017 23:38
i'd almost want the sponsons on the top instead of the side on that one for some reason...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:39
wait does it have void shields too?
tekton
@tekton
Nov 02 2017 23:40
reminds me of this for some reason: http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/nes/a/iront-2.gif
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:41
No must be the neutron wave capacitors that look like void Shield knobs
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 02 2017 23:41
right b's & g's, because I'm tired my maverick side has come out, I pull'd, merged, and released. Codex Craftworlds is out, warts and all... Now I'm going to :sleepy:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 02 2017 23:42
Lol nice