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21st
Dec 2017
tekton
@tekton
Dec 21 2017 00:23
ish sprecht ein kein deustch
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 00:31
I AM German and can't speak it well lolololol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 21 2017 00:41
@alphalas suddenly the blood angels for you make more sense (something something angry aryans :P )
I joke, of course
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 00:59
lol no offense taken - it's an amusing thought lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 01:45
BA aren't aryans
They're SPAAAAAACE VAMPIRES
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 03:02
....
dude.
blonde af, chiseled jawlines, blue eyes...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 07:22
blood angels would be what would appear in the next blood rayne game
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 12:42
According to someone on FB GK LRC is FUBAR city
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 13:09
i think its just the wargear hasnt been CA'd
hurricane bolters are 20 each instead of 10, twin asscannon is 35 instead of 44
idk if eleven points constitutes FUBAR, though
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 13:14
Given the balanced and understanding nature of many of the FB posts, 11pts is FUBAR
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 13:15
at least there's no cock suckers telling him to use his codex, or something..?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 13:21
Yeah whatever that was about
@ilaunchbury yup - should have used my sarcasm tag, sorry lol
Totally didn’t mean it is FUBAR, just that FB claims it’s FUBAR
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 13:23
oops, forgot my tagging as well :)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 14:04
@/all, I've made a change to the readme to make it a little more obvious that people should contact us here before committing updates. Please take a look at #2061.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 14:14
a couple of formatting/markdown things i'd change, but the content looks good
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 14:17
In my changes, or in general?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 14:18
both. there's also some grammatical errors in the stuff you havent changed
dread to think how long they've been there
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 14:19
does anyone ever read the readme tbh? because I didnt..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 14:19
i hope people who want to help on the repo at least glance at it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 14:20
^^
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 14:20
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. After all these years, you should know better ;)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 14:21
@GenWilhelm, update the PR with what needs changing and I'll sort it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 14:25
how does that look?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:07
Okay guys, implementation question #2041
He's 100% correct, but
Codex:
codex-priest.PNG
Index:
index-priest.PNG
It's almost like there needs to be two different versions of the unit
Because technically the Codex one can have a laspistol, autogun and chainsword
The Index one allows all that but puts the chainsword and autogun in the "may take one of these" categories
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:13
make the "May take one" group max2 if chainsword and autogun are selected?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:13
so increment the max by 1 if you have a laspistol, chainsword and autogun?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 15:13
or give him 2 entry groups, one for each hand
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:13
No, because he can still swap the pistol.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 15:14
with the defining wargear as default and the options to pick from
it clutters the options a bit, but it's the best solution imo since it gives checkboxes instead of selectors
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:14
The "default" is laspistol, that's it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:14
my understanding is you use one datasheet or the other for your wargear, but not both
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:16
Ah yes you see that's perfectly reasonable
BUT NO
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:16
you're right, but for simplicity, I've always tried to condense them.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:16
It's mix-and-match wargear like some kind of crazy clothing garage sale on crack
Like I said....it's almost like the unit needs two entries
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 15:17
grafik.png
I do it like that.
it really bloats selections, but technically it allows you every possible configuration
I hate the double entries of boltguns etc, but unless you can set default via modifier.. which I asked for like 2 years ago at the least..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:18
only problem i have with that is it displays "Bolt Pistol, Bolt Pistol", rather than "2x Bolt Pistol"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:18
That makes my brain hurt
The real problem I have is that there are two very distinct wargear option trees
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 15:20
and both are usable per designer notice
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:20
Correct
Which leads to the necessity of two unit entries
IMHO
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:21
i think it's cleaner to increment the max selections if you have only the specific codex wargear
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:21
This works:
image.png
The chainsword constraint is to the GST entry.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:22
Now there's a solution I can get behind
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:22
"May take one" will need renaming.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:23
I swear I'm just going to make it "Choose Whatever, You Fucks"
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:23
I also removed chainsword from the selection list, as there's no point duplicating it from the Admin Melee list.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:23
language is too strong there, Joe
make it "You Feths" at most
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:24
How 'bout "Wankers"?
"Cheeseheads"?
"Cheaters"?
"Just Choose Whatever You Want -- Keep Ruining The Game"?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:25
I think "you Fethers", I don't think I've seen Feth used as a pronoun.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:25
Actually....I think I know what to say
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:26
idk, i think feth just has a better ring to it than feathers
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:26
"Filth" is more like it
"Filthy Juice Pigs" is more appropriate
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:27
"Scum of the internet" that one's a classic
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:29
@ilaunchbury what are the entry IDs for the chainsword and the autogun?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:30
chainsword 0dd1-2e2b-7dd1-5495
e076-6d6d-afb7-0c79
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:31
Shouldn't the autogun be 5752-d165-5e03-d38c?
Since that's the (Shared) (Not Local) version? (which I presume is the GST version)?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:34
The autogun works ok because it's a local SSE entry on the unit. It would probably work either way? The chainsword is in a SSEG so BS can't work out what it should be checking for if you use the link from AdMin Melee.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:34
priest-ugh.PNG
There, now the selection list is appropriately named, and non-offensive
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:35
I'm also not sure why all the entries have a min 0?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 15:35
that screams of a hangover from older versions
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:36
That's an @alphalas - ism
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:37
@CrusherJoe, what did you decide about the Wolf Guard change? I've got some time tonight to work through getting all the other units unbroken if you want me to?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:39
I like your method, if you want to do it, please proceed
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:40
ok, I'll see what I can get done tonight, otherwise it'll have to wait until after Xmas. We're off to the in-laws for the weekend tomorrow night.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:41
Right on!
Yeah I've been a little slow catching up on things these last few days
December is either Feast or Famine for my company every year
This has been a "Feast" year
So that on top of all the other stuff that comes with the holi-daze
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:49
@flakpanda #2045 you're going to need to do the same thing I did
To the SM datafile
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 15:51
Min0s? Wut?
I’ll look when I’m not out running to @CrusherJoe’s favorite supply shop
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:54
....
Which favorite supply shop?
Harbor Freight? Hobby Lobby? FLGS?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 15:55
Harbor freight
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:56
Mmmmmmm Harbor Freight
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe does love him some Harbor Freight, yesssss
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 15:56
I just got some new Tool Porn in the mail from them yesterday
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 15:57
@CrusherJoe, I didn't realise you were leaving the selection list like that :D :clap:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 15:58
/me rocking out to IWS,NT
@CrusherJoe probably the same one I used to dun up @flakpanda’s Zara
James
@skonk
Dec 21 2017 16:13
@ilaunchbury reckon there is a need to add the 3 man blightlord unit from the new easy build pack?
image.png
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 16:14
are they actually any different to a normal unit?
James
@skonk
Dec 21 2017 16:15
its a unit of 3. index/codex is a unit of 5 to 10
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 16:15
in that case, I suppose I should. Can you put up a task with that screenshot? thx
James
@skonk
Dec 21 2017 16:15
can do
thats the english datasheet but they have misprinted it with the wrong stat labels lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 16:31
also, the one with the plague spewer doesnt have a melee weapon, whereas codex forces you to take one
James
@skonk
Dec 21 2017 16:33
Yeh thats an odd one
the codex versions dont let you NOT have a melee weapon
i think
so the model cant be run as modelled outside of this 3 man unit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 16:35
yeah, they start with an axe, which can be swapped for another melee weapon
James
@skonk
Dec 21 2017 16:35
the position of the hand looks like it would be easy to stick a sword/axe on from spares
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 21 2017 16:35
yeah, unless you stick a weapon on him, he doesnt work WYSIWYG for the codex
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 20:56
@ilaunchbury yes sir, I believe in truth in advertising :)
25673076_10215196279970548_1516811470_o.jpg
Go go airbrush action on the Vulture
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 21 2017 21:14
Can someone just check I haven't missed something? SW HQs can't take a relic blade, right. It's not in their Index list and it wasn't FAQed into their selection?
don't worry, re-read it. Thunderwolf Lords can't, everyone else can.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 21 2017 21:28
@CrusherJoe what's the final paintscheme for those? I'm guessing the black is primer?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 21 2017 21:29
That's not black
It's Panzer Dark Gray (Vallejo Model Air)
It's....a really dark gray :)
Since my Guard are all part of the Celestine Crusade, they match my Sisters paint scheme
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 21:49
@Thairne ya know, if you had started working on the cat the day the Codex dropped like the rest of us you wouldn’t have been rushed ;)
yeah idk why I put those min0s in tbh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 21 2017 21:54
there probably was a reason but I don't remember
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 21 2017 22:07
uh I actually did. Codex went live on 16th and there was trouble with BL supplying the epub... Oo
it was more a case of being asked daily if I'm done for release :P