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8th
Jan 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 02:42
I have beat BA like a drum every time I've played against them
And today I took Dark Angels out back and put one in the head and two in the chest
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 02:52
As in, opponent conceded bottom of turn 3
.....
Well dang it
I was all set to just happily ignore the Custodes release and then I saw those jetbikes like YOWZA man
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 03:38
the tzeentch SC box is shockingly good value now that I've built one
the burning chariot kit itself is too
since if you have a couple spare flying bases and screamer tails (from the screamers in the same box) you can split it out to herald + disc (or herald on disc), 2x screamers, the exalted flamer and 3 blue horrors
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 04:27
Hey has anyone seen an actual written review of Daemons codex?
I keep seeing variations on this:
1CP You cannot re-roll saving throws but it gives a daemon unit +1 to invulnerable saves. No better than 3++.
Which makes me think they've removed the (incredibly irritating) Tzeench re-roll failed saves of 1 trait/power/whatever
If so...and if this makes it's way to Smegmus (and I pray to all that is holy that it does) then his reign of terror is...well, not over, but it'll sure slow it down a wee bit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 04:35
@CrusherJoe which was giving the RR saves?
changeling is now FnP, I haven't seen anything that was a save reroll
but then, I'm still acquainting myself with all the minor details of the factions for CSM/CD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 04:39
bleh
FOR SO LONG
I've been told Smegmus' re-roll 1s on saves is a Tzeench thing
Turns out it's some bullshit "Primarch of 1k Sons" ability
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 04:41
well, he can use the strat but there go his rerolls
the new LoC with the right relic and WL trait is actually more durable without relying on a power
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 04:42
Wow, I really hate Magnus LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 04:43
fun fact
a LoC with the impossible robe and tzeentch WLT can survive a guided and doomed scorpion shot
and only take an average of 4 damage
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 05:09
eh, I suspect that people will adapt, or GW will apply the nerfbat
one or the other
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 14:23
This is one of the very rare cases where the bat needs to be applied ASAP
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 08 2018 14:26
calling for nerfs on a codex that hasnt been released?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 14:26
I know, I know
But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you can deepstrike in a Kytan, Lord of Skulls, Magnus and Mortarion.
Turn 1
With no risk
And minimal CP cost.
My guard army, with average conditions and RoLC active can pretty reliably kill a Mortarion at range
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 08 2018 14:27
Wouldn't be 8CP for all of them? I don't feel that's "minimal".
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 14:28
It's not like you'd need any more than that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 08 2018 14:28
yeah, i'll agree that there needs to be an upper cap, or another cost bracket. but im kind of looking forward to something that doesnt immediately lose to a traditional gunline
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 14:29
Magnus brings his own re-rolls and shenanigans. Morty has DR. The Kytan could easily kill 3-4 tanks in one round of combat. The LoS is almost as bad.
@GenWilhelm are you looking forward to something to that auto-wins?
There's got to be a middle ground in there somewhere
Like maybe not magically no-risk teleporting Lords of War?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 08 2018 15:37
Want to know the solution to that?
Outside of a tournament setting at least.
Laugh at the idiot who brings that and walk away
Inside of tournaments, don't most want a batallion
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 08 2018 15:45
yeah, you need as many units deployed as deep striking, and you need a CD detachment to unlock the stratagems
since you're spending 8 CP and two detachments on LoWs, you only have one detachment to generate at least 2 additional CP
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 08 2018 15:53
So, Batallion at the least.
Would be the cheapest way
but even then
I'm not sure you could fit it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 08 2018 15:56
picking the cheapest wargear on the LoS, you have 80pts to build your batallion
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 08 2018 15:56
Where the hell is Kytan at?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 08 2018 15:56
FW Heretic, LOW.
I'm seriously considering merging FW Heretics into the main file...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 08 2018 15:57
Is it just Kytan Ravager at the moment?
If so, yea - cheapest you can do is 2194
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 08 2018 15:58
does that include the CD detachment?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 08 2018 15:58
close enough for a Mini-wargaming battle report!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 08 2018 15:58
Yea, CD batallion
2 Heralds of khorn, 3x3 nurglings.
So the only way to do it is to drop one of the 4
which is still annoying
But again - if some jackass brings that to anything but a tournament, I laugh in his face and find someone else to play.
tekton
@tekton
Jan 08 2018 20:36
@CrusherJoe yeah, those jetbikes actually look decent- was NOT expecting them to be good looking
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 21:56
Dem jetbikes tho....yep
wasn't expecting them to look to good either
Looks like I'm gonna need to get some clippers for all those damned topknots and they'll look right as rain
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 08 2018 21:58
that’s better then my one local’s idea
1 word: Pillarstodes
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 08 2018 22:49
why does zardu have to look so fucking amazing for a model
I was trying to avoid full resin dudes... :cry:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 08 2018 23:50
DOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
You know you want to
As long as you're "falling" to Chaos, FALL ALL THE WAY DOWN!
tekton
@tekton
Jan 08 2018 23:55
As long as all of these guys are going to be 40k available this will be ordered sooner than later: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legio-Custodes-Dreadnought-Collection-2017