These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

11th
Jan 2018
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 11 2018 04:59
@WindstormSCR and @GenWilhelm I'm just catching up, but the Autarch on foot with a Star Glaive model is called Prince Yriel
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 04:59
yes, but it's not sold as an autarch on foot
if people are into pedantry, I can go there
also everything would be back to index points, because absolute RAW they missed a block of text that assigns unit values
(yes this is pants on head retarded, so is GW, that was the point)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 11 2018 05:06
I think it's very possible GW might actually have deliberately used model so that the only codex valid units are made up of currently existing models produced and copyright owned by GW... This would agree with what I understand as the basis of the lawsuit that GW can't control copyright on things with uncopyrighted names, such as Eldar, and they can only rename models they currently sell to Aeldari (as an example). BUT they've definitely not thought far enough down the rabbit hole, and now we're in a pickle...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 05:14
This
....is lulztastic:
Reece Richard Robbins I would assume if I was a Daemon player that a Daemon FAQ would be coming out quickly on the heels of the Daemon book as has been the case with other Cdoex releases. We will look to GW to answer these questions but no, I would not plan on deep-striking (or any other similar uses of stratagems) Magnus, Mortarion, the Lord of Skulls, etc. with the Daemon codex. I'd work on the assumption that only Daemon Faction Keyword units can use the Codex Daemon stratagems. Again, we will look to GW for official answers but as friendly advice, that would be what I would say to anyone thinking about bringing that to the LVO. So please consider that when writing your list.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 05:15
yeah
saw that in the daemons tactics thread on dakka
i am not surprised
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 07:13
I think I need a break. The last thing I dreamed about before my alarm went off was an entitled-as-hell, ranty data issue in the style of BaconCatBug.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 08:35
@ilaunchbury if it helps any, he just got tempbanned from dakka
you've got to really try to earn that lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 08:41
oh, it wasn't from him in my dream. It was just in the same style of MY WAY IS CORRECT AND YOU MUST DO AS I SAY WITH NO DISCUSSION!!!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 08:42
lol
but discussion is half the fun
how else can we heap aspersions on GW's writing and marketing teams?
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 09:25
What Reece says up there is in opposition to what GW have gone with in all other similar cases btw
if the strat says NURGLE DAEMON and you have legitimate access to that Strat by having a correctly formed Daemons detachment; then that strat will work on anything with both the NURGLE and DAEMON keywords; regardless of the keywords being faction keywords or not
and the preceding page to the strats in the book doesn't do anything to excluded them in some other wa
way^
but deepstriking morty or magnus doesnt really do much other than stop them being shot off the table on turn 1 before you get to use them
they are fast enough to get a turn 1 charge off regardless and actually, deepstriking them and having the limit of more than 9 inches would make it harder to get into combat in a lot of cases
I also think Reece is a bit of a cunt so maybe im biased
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 09:30
they went that way with tyranids/GSC
so it's not without precedent either
and reece is a cunt
he's 90% of the reason there were so many problems with all the rules changes ITC made in 7th
because he didn't understand LoWs and stomp were a control on deathstars
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 09:34
aye
he's got worse recently too because of his involvement in the testing process with GW; made him act a bit more... on his high horse with everything, like he always knows best.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 11:53
Anyone here going to UK Games Expo?
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jan 11 2018 11:56
That the one in June?
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 12:01
a m8 of mine sometimes goes cos he intermittently maintains a gaming related youtube channel
mainly board games tho rather than tabletop stuff
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 12:03
@penguin20000 , yes. GW are a major sponsor this year after coming for the first time last year. There's quite a lot of miniatures gaming there alongside the board gaming.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jan 11 2018 12:03
few freinds have been talking about going as it's not too far away
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 12:08
I'm volunteering again, so I'[ll be there for the whole weekend.
penguin20000
@penguin20000
Jan 11 2018 12:14
ahh nice
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:17
BEHOLD, THE MONSTROSITY THAT IS THE DAEMON PRINCE OF CHAOS
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Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:21
HOLY CRAP
That's....yeah, a monstrosity
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:24
Hellforged sword options has 7 options due to Artefact weapons as well, which get hidden based on allegiance selection.
At least, that's all the HQ done, which should be the most complicated setups.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:24
Geebuz
@ilaunchbury I salute you sir
That's some fine work
And what you said about needing a break?
Let me tell you what I was dreaming before I woke up
I was dreaming about people in the 40K universe selling Baneblade chassis for refugees to live in
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:26
nice
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:27
But when I woke up, my first thought was, "Pffft, like the Mechanicum would ever allow mere mortals to live in the remains of a Baneblade."
Y'all I played one of the best games of 40K I've ever played in my life last night
It was against one of the best players I know that was practicing for LVO
And while yes, he did beat me 26-15 (ITC Champs mission) I made him work for it. We played for almost 4 hours. It was a brutal slugfest. Absolute carnage.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:34
My dice helped for once. At one point I needed to make 7 5++ saves. Rolled 5 6's and a 5. CP re-rolled the one fail, got a 6.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:37
that is some sweet rolling
what list did you take in the end?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:37
Hang on let me bring it up
Not-Quite-Pure Guard Filth v1.7 Vindicare Edition.pdf
Huh, so that's how Gitter handles pdfs
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:39
terribly?
oh, clicking it works, the preview is a bit rubbish tho
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 11 2018 14:43
looking at greyfax makes me realise how much better treason of tzeentch is than dominate
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 14:45
yeah, it's way better
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 14:46
Greyfax's purpose in life is to Deny
And Smite if she has to
But she excels at Deny
I shut down Word of the Phoenix a couple of times late in the game
His list was
Yrvraine
10-man Ynarri Dark Rapers
3x 5 man Alaitoc Dark Rapers
3x 5 man Rangers
2x Wave Serpents
3x 5-man Kabbalite Warriors
Spirit seer
2-warlock Conclave
Farseer
Swooping Hawks HQ dude
5-man Swooping Hawks
I think that's it
He got to go first (he rolled a 2, making it a 3, I rolled a....2. Whee)
His alpha strike was so hard it was downright discouraging. It sucked the wind out of my saile
Oh he also has a Hemlock Wraithfighter
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 15:02
I didn't take RoLC (ITC allows you to change relics, warlord traits and psychic powers before each game)
So I started the game with 13 CP, and had zero by the bottom of turn 4
I rolled the "reclaim CP" thing several time. I'll bet I easily spent 20 CP
The Guard army runs on them
Also: Overlapping Fields of Fire is BALLER
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 15:04
did the vindi do much?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 11 2018 15:08
yeah, 5+ FNP is a 1.5 multiplier on average, so spending 20 is pretty average for a 13 CP (assuming the warlord is alive the whole game)
and i've also seen the power of the cadian strat. i was on the receiving end, however :P
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 15:18
Can you get to github? I think it's gone down.
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 15:19
down i think
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 16:12
back now. Just giving @CrusherJoe some work to do :D
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 16:14
heh
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 11 2018 17:08
@ilaunchbury thank you for organizing things my man
You really make it easier to keep up and get things done -- I appreciate it.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 21:33
no leman russ conquerers converted yet
i thought you were bringing the cheese joe?
;)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 21:45
oh btw @GenWilhelm i figured out that lyn nuri crap on the fb
there was a dick who was commenting on things (mostly complaints about keywords not showing) asking “aren’t they in your codex?"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 11 2018 21:49
ah, gotcha
well the fb page is broken, so we dont have to worry about that anymore
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 21:51
Yeah I noticed that the last release was @Thairne’s big DA update
Which speaking of, @ilaunchbury if you got some free time at some point can you please go over that cat with a fine-tooth comb?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 21:52
which? DA?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 21:52
It’s popping so many bugreps it’s almost as bad as when I was constantly breaking Guard
So senior
Si*
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 21:53
tbh, it's kind of fighting with Wolves for most bugreps recently.
Once I've got Daemons done. Which should be tomorrow, I'm staying up to midnight so I can release at 11:59 :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 21:55
Well wolves needs to be rehashed completely imo
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 21:55
yeah, I started on the weapon refactor, but then Xmas and Daemons Codex.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 21:55
I just also don’t see the point of making @CrusherJoe embark on that fools errand until the bloody Codex drops
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 11 2018 21:57
yeah, if youre breaking units, do it when the codex drops so its all broken at the same time
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 22:01
Yeah at this point I think that’s what SW needs
DA though... I have no idea why it’s so bad
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 22:34
looks like it's done properly but has some shared/collectivity issues
I have some time tomorrow I could use to try and wade into it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 22:50
Sure - comment on the bugreps so @Thairne sees you’re working on them
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 11 2018 22:50
will do when I start
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 11 2018 22:51
Since the cranky old bird seems busy with stuff other then BS
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:10
Got about 80% into building a blight tree while watching Rob (who used to present GW's twitch streams) on twitch where someone described it as a "Fanny tree" (note the word means something different in the UK to what it does in the US) and I laughed, dropped it... and it broke
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:10
lol, but not too much.
it's more a vagina dentata.
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:12
yeh :)
just got the tree to fix and finish then 1 more great unclean one and im done
oh and 2 blight drones
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:16
IT'S DONE!
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:17
daemons?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:17
Please check my work in the Codex-Daemons branch. Then I can tidy up anything funky tomorrow.
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:17
want me to give it a test?
ah
beat me too it :)
you know what would be cool (but I have no idea how much work it would be)..... if you could flag each detachment as being mono-god or unaligned and if mono, hide everything not of that god (or not able to be given that gods allegiance)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:21
yeah, I thought about having a switch, just for list-building simplification.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 11 2018 23:22
you mean like pointy boyz have? :P
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:23
yeh, basically a filter; so as you said, just to make it easier when building
tekton
@tekton
Jan 11 2018 23:28
I'll have some time to help with Wolves a bit- one of my employees plays them and we were talking about it today; it's not like its in THAT bad a place
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:31
looks like im going to have to invest in a start collecting nurgle box to make what i have to a usable 2k list
unless i add some forgeworld
tekton
@tekton
Jan 11 2018 23:32
There's so much Nurgle around my office right now...I had to make more Hellblasters
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:32
lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:46
@skonk, how's that for the selection?
redownload the branch
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:49
will check now
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 11 2018 23:49
right, bed time. Log any issues on #2183 and I'll look at them in the morning.
James
@skonk
Jan 11 2018 23:50
will do, thanks for getting it all done so quick :)
seems to work fine btw
ill have a proper check tomorrow while im at work, make some lists and check the points and such