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15th
Jan 2018
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 15 2018 00:56

@skonk

in exactly the same way Rubric Marines in the Index have been replaced by the ones in the CSM dex

Not exactly. Codex does not trump/replace another Codex unless explicitly stated (as in, has the same name or is in another way obviously replacing like Daemonhunters->Grey Knights).

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 15 2018 04:58
Thats what i was telling @CrusherJoe about horrors
the designer commentary only has RAW for codex replacing index
they have yet to address codex replacing codex, and how to handle keyword set differences in that event. The example being how do you handle daemons changing but not accidentally forcing codex SM to use DA rhinos and associated keyword dysfunction
The only real way under the current system as they have created things is to FAQ the relevant books where things have been replaced
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 07:25
The last time they updated Daemons units,
(in Codex CSM) they FAQed the Index. I have no doubt that they will faq the Daemons changes into CSM and DG but, until they do, they won't be changes in those catalogues. I agree that its
Feels wrong, but GW did this to themselves.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 15 2018 08:03
"Deprecation was a mistake", "should have gone full living ruleset", etc
tbqfh they could have taken a que. from Paizo of all people
make a nice curated wiki of the rules, stuff the missions, extra fluff and things into chapter approved, and keep making really nice printed stuff/ebooks for those that want handy references
AoS and Pathfinder are proof you can make it all free and still turn a tidy profit, especially since lots of people (like me) enjoy the painting sections and the lore bits
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 15 2018 08:08
and then you make something like Pathfinder Society for a tournament circuit
but what to I know
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jan 15 2018 10:15
for me the sticky point is on the flow chart it says "does the model have an entry in a codex", but what happens when codex:sm2 comes out?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 15 2018 12:00
One day GW might actually put that legal team to a half-decent use inspecting the wording of thier rules :P
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 12:01
I hope not. We don't need actual rules lawyers
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 15 2018 12:01
and wake up to the fact that precision is mandatory in a multi-source living ruleset
@ilaunchbury this is a unique element, since the definition/designation of a model and which rules it relates to is something that has ties to legal cases and ramifications for thier business, so you'd think they'd be more precise
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 12:06
yes, you'd think...
i think that, as a company, they're still learning how to deal with the whole internet/social media feedback loop. They buried their heads in the sand for so long, that it's coming back to bite them in a big way.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 15 2018 13:34
Deep in the bowels of GW-HQ, there's an intern, blind now; due to the amount of time he has spent in the abyssal labyrinthine corridors. He spends his days searching by touch alone along the steaming hot pipes that carry the foetid sludge that feeds the complex, fingers long since scalded insensate to all but the feel of the target of his mole-like inquisition - a crusty and rotten wheel adorning a valve, long forgotten since the "new GW" slithered into being, the sign he cannot read above it states "Internet comments - OFF".
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 13:35
wow, that's grimdark.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 13:35
perfect dark :P
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jan 15 2018 13:42
:clap: you should enter the short story contest with writing like that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 13:49
Q: Can successor Chapters use the Warlord Traits of their founding Chapter?
A: No.
anybody care to explain this one?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 15 2018 13:51
Oh!
That’s interesting
Maybe means we’ll see a reversal of the “FW named characters can pick their CTs” nonsense?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 13:53
well, they can still pick, just only from the BRB traits :)
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jan 15 2018 13:56
@GenWilhelm did you ever play the N64 game Perfect Dark?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 13:57
no, i havent. i was making a reference to something else that references that game though :D
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jan 15 2018 13:57
It was a great shooter back in the day
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 13:59
@GenWilhelm, your response to #2239 was more restrained than mine.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 14:03
heh, cant assume everyone knows everything. better to be diplomatic until they give you a reason not to ^^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 15 2018 14:55
I assume the valve is more like this:
FDK.jpg
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 15:00
NOOOOO! "Lost" flashbacks
daemons epub/pdf up
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 15 2018 16:36
LOL
The GF and I are re-watching Lost
I love that show
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 15 2018 18:00
anyone working on anything or pushing a release today? otherwise i will be pushing
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 19:20
@flakpanda did you see the newest version of the SM FAQ?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 19:26
@flakpanda, I've got some stuff to finish later. If you're done by then, I'll push the release.
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Jan 15 2018 22:08
@GenWilhelm no?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 15 2018 22:39
Primaris changes, wlt changes, champion changes
I think that’s it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 15 2018 22:52
@flakpanda, I'm all done. Release when you're ready.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 15 2018 22:53