These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

23rd
Jan 2018
tekton
@tekton
Jan 23 2018 03:49
So, I knew a new air compressor was going to help with airbrushing...I just didn't know how much it was going to help
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jan 23 2018 04:38
what kind of air compressor did you get?
tekton
@tekton
Jan 23 2018 05:28
it's a temp replacement, one of the "master" ones- but the pressure valve actually works!
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 11:08
I got myself a sparmax tc-620x a while back and it's brill :)
zopha
@zopha
Jan 23 2018 11:28
Tsunami Warning for Alaska. Kodiak Island and Anchorage https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/us/earthquake-tsunami-alaska.html
Enjoy all.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 23 2018 13:03
did they release a new version since I updated the cat yesterday? :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 23 2018 13:03
Oh, I didn't see it posted yesterday
I choose to ignore your attentiveness. No more daemon primarch deep strikes.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 23 2018 13:04
same with lord of skulls and brass scorp
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 23 2018 13:04
surprise!
oh, wait, no.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 23 2018 13:04
and they also cant be resurrected anymore
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 23 2018 13:05
All they needed to do was rename the Faction and everything would have been simple.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 23 2018 13:05
Yea, the keywords are great ... but naming everything Daemons was a mistake.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 23 2018 13:30
The great arctic tsunami has been canceled.
Everyone in alaska can go back to freezing as per normal.
Also, I realize nature can be destructive at any extreme... but this seems ... small to be called a tsunami: "...reported that a small tsunami with a wave height of less than eight inches"
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 23 2018 13:34
:)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 23 2018 13:34
Oh no, run for the hills. 2/3 a foot of water is coming from the beach.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 23 2018 13:36
Hehehe! Yeah, I hope that's a typo...
Even 8ft wouldn't exactly be a massive wave
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 23 2018 15:22
anyone seen this fella attempt to output BS lists in a viewer ? it's real basic so far but it shows promise
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 23 2018 15:39
Nifty!
Maybe something that Jon should talk to him about trying to get somewhere with
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 23 2018 15:43
Okay, I might be a little lost, but what's so great there (aside from being colorful instead of black-white and having show-hide for categories)?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 23 2018 15:44
Damn, I'm that easily pleased huh ? pretty colours and a drop down box and I'm unzipping already
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 23 2018 15:44
IDK, I didn't register, maybe that's some magic gate for happiness? :D
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 23 2018 15:45
I think he's set it up as a repository, but I was just loving the dropdowns for battlefield roles, would like to see the rest of your output in there for games .. rather than scrolling through 15 pages of HTML, but I am so very lazy
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 23 2018 15:46
i think the point is it's a repository where you can share lists, then download the list and load it straight into bscribe
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 23 2018 15:51
Oh, that I agree with completely, cool - it's about time we have something like that.
tekton
@tekton
Jan 23 2018 17:05
@skonk anything in particular that made you get the sparmax tc-620x?
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 20:28
My favourite airbrush stuff shop stocks them and i read/watched a load of reviews
my goal was to get something quieter than my old one and with a tank so it can shut its self off till it needs more presure
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 21:46
@alphalas you're listed as overall imperium owner, you want to handle custodes or delegate? I can bang it out as soon as there is a digital edition available
I might suffer through SS82's review to get a frameowrk to edit sooner
seriously, the guy needs to pause less and condense more
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 21:51
i could prolly get my hands on the book tomorrow if i'd been in the market for the army
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 21:52
I have some from 30k, so I'll porbably make a small force for packed days when the shop is mostly 2v2s in order to get more people table time
Kind of annoyed that shield-captain with spear/shield isn't a valid wargear setup, since most 30k folks have thier tribunes run that way and the kit can be built that way with no modification
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 21:54
ah :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 22:04
I'll se what alphalas has to say before I start on it, no sense suffering through that torturously slow review unnecessarily
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 23 2018 22:04
Honestly I was planning on doing it myself, however, if you really want to do it and suffer through that nonsense be my guest – it’ll make my life easier that’s for sure
part of the reason I was planning on getting the ePub from @acebaur
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 22:05
I plan to play them so I might as well, considering that there isn't much work to do on the CWE side of things
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 23 2018 22:06
K go for it
Just try to use as much reuse as much as possible – that way we don’t completely break everybody’s list that have custodes lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 22:26
if I don't have to touch it I'll be leaving it as-is
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 22:55
so....
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If I made a Death Guard list and put him in via a -1 cp
Plaguebust Crawlers, Blight Haulers, Bloat Drones are all nurgle daemons
they would proc his buff and benefit from the buff...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:04
@skonk it gets better
take 3 blight haulers and a GUO with a bell
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:04
oOH
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:04
keep him in 7"
you killed a hauler? too bad! it's back!
that's in the "no fun allowed" territory though
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:05
aye
i suppose its where do you draw the line
its ok to res 5 wound daemons but 8 wound DG tanks too much? prolly
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:06
really depends on damage output and durability of what you're ressing, and range
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:07
usually, the DG tanks are medium-ish damage output due to the hitting on 4's and lack of ways to get re-roll hits
but they live longer than most so over time do a lot of damage
but i would imagine a list made up of almost nothing but those tanks, with epidemius stacking his buff and a GUO thrown in would be pretty broken
couple of daemon princes for good measure
or it could be shite :) if it's not been FAQ'd by the time the LVO starts maybe we'l get to see it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:12
the FAQ's already out, so in GW's eyes probably done with until march
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:12
aye
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:13
and they only hit stratagems, not auras
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:13
some stuff sounds broken AF but in practice ends up a lot of cack
the tanks thing may be good but would be easy to tie everything up in combat and they'd never get to shoot
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:15
but then you're in charge range of a GUO
so not a complete problem
do the blight drones have daemon?
sorry, the bloat-drone things
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:15
yeh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:15
with the flamer
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:16
and the plague spitters are user str
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:16
uhhhh
they'
they're single-model or multi-model units?
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:16
single model
the only multi model unit is the blight haulers
but bloat drones with spitters are a good unit anyway, nice to harass with, making them T8 with Str 7 spitters would be pretty good like
crawlers could become T9
this is with epidemius i mean
i've had a couple of games with the nurgle daemons now with the new dex and the GUO is actually pretty easy to kill
all the daemons are tbh
i think the list is only viable if you stack as much resurrecting dead models as u can
an army with 5+ saves takes a lot of wounds
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:22
I've found 25 horrors with a full split on the last 5 is pretty mean
since it keeps you at/above the 20 mark for a while
can take 25 wounds total before dropping below the buffed shooting mark
5 pinks, 10 blues, 10 brims
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:24
tzeentch daemons all have 4++ tho
well, not brims and blues now :)
but the pinks in the unit keep their 4
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:25
yeah, but you murder the full split slowly first in order to keep the shot buff, then it goes downhill from there
3 shot pinks are pretty good
especially with herald buff and flames
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:26
do people really use the split thing now?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:27
that's the only use-case I can think of, or making a unit aggravatingly difficult to clear off an objective
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:27
reserving points for it instead of just putting more models on the table seems impractical to me
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:31
what I've found with tzeentch daemons at least is that the toolbox you have will cover most things, but it's real easy to take too much chaff clear or anti-tank stuff, so the best build I've used has left about 20% of the list points in reserve for adapting to the game
gives flexibility to split, or get what you need
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:32
ah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:32
in some units I'll account for the split as part of a strategy, like dropping a horror shooting bomb then using the split to keep the buff even through return fire
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:34
yeh
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:50
i cant work out how im going to get all this stuff into my display cabinet
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:51
which stuff?
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:55
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my collection of partly painted nonsense
i'm good at starting... but not finishing
emptied the cabinet out to clean it and to switch around what was in but before i finished clearning the second cabinet i got bored
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:56
what make of cabinet?
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:57
Ikea Detolf
but ive added 2 extra shelves into each
I have one of those, might be a good place for all the vehicles
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:58
is it enclosed?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:58
no doors/walls, but I've found that dust doesn't really care if there is or isn't a door
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:58
ah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:58
holds a lot of stuff though
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:58
i have some open shelving to the side of it but its full of my KR cases
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:58
I'll take a picture of mine tonight
they're nice, the glass makes it so that the light isn't blocked, and its got plenty of space for vehicles and big models
James
@skonk
Jan 23 2018 23:59
the price isnt bad for those
im in the UK but they sell them here
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 23 2018 23:59
perhaps use one for the big stuff and the enclosed for the small models