These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

28th
Jan 2018
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 00:00
Agreed, dangerous president :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 00:41
neat
so my custodes can pile in 6"\
(I joke)
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 00:41
:)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 00:41
(but holy shit that log)
they need to come to a fundamental understanding that a permissive ruleset puts the burden on them to be y'know, explicitly permissive
only two bugs so far, neat
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 01:04
bugs squashed
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 01:04
:)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 01:04
#2349 just needs merged
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 02:09
So I think I may even try the Custodes bomb tonight if the board is open in the right way for it...
Didn’t have time to finish painting, but thankfully it’s just a friendly game at my place
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 03:55
I'm very curious about how the Allarus Bomb works out
I don't really want to commit to it without solid anecdotal evidence that it'll actually perform reliably :)
Also
LVO Champs:
I predict -- that with 4 out of 10 in the Top 10 being Dark Reaper spam of some flavor, expect Codex: Dark Reapers to get the nerf bat come March
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 04:19
Interesting- lots of blood angels to be expected
Way more space wolves than I expected
Sadly I think my game tonight is going to get cancelled and won’t be able to try out the stand ins for the fondue bomb
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 04:22
I’m actually impressed how well beast coast is doing
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 08:08
The Custodes themselves did good tonight- I still lost to a well put together chaos army vs my horrible space marines + Custodes list, but my last units were the shield captain and a unit of 2 Allarus who had taken over 300 shots since taking 200 shots to lose the first one
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 16:52
That's what's up
I'm gonna roll with the Banana Hammock (3 Bike Captains + Maybe a Vexhilla) and see how they do supporting my Guard
I will probably branch out into an Allarus Bomb once there's a little more empirical evidence as to their performance
I'll probably do some proxy game tests as well
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 17:18
I need guard is what that game told me :smile:
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe nods
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 17:19
Not surprised...you need a ton of CP to properly fuel Banana Pudding
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 18:46
Yup yup yup
I was planning on steel legion after whatever I needed to buy for the updates to my Death (AoS) army coming in a couple weeks, because that pre-order is going to be it for my spending for a bit heh
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 18:57
I totally understand
Hey @WindstormSCR was there an issue raised already about Bike Captain not being able to take a misercordia?
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:20
went to the hobby shop to build some plaguebearers and ended up buying the custodes dex
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 19:23
I couldn
er
I couldn't find an issue for the missing misericordia to I raised one for you @WindstormSCR
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 19:24
Thanks
I'll fix that after lunch
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:24
a guy in the shop was trying to build an all character custode list in scribe and the characters had no option for the misericodia, that the issue you're talking about?
or do i need to add an issue for it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 19:25
The only one for sure I know of is the Bike Captain
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 19:27
The other two should have it
I'll double check
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:32
it was dudes on bike
shop is having a 1k tourny at the end of feb and he was going to do a 10 bike list lol
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:42
There really zero admech at LVO?
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 19:47
Someone had it in a soup list from a picture I saw
Also really hoping there’s a forgeworld update for Custodes so I can really justify buying some Legio Custodes Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought...
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:48
yeh i think currently the top list with some admech in is at 51
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 19:49
AdMech isnt quite consistent enough against psyker heavy lists to justify in a tournament setting :(
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 19:51
a m8 who plays em has never won a game in 8th
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:00
Awwww :( that’s got to be frustrating
I’m 5-2 with my admech list over all of 8th
Both losses to Chaos Demons recently...
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 20:00
ive even tried running pretty shit lists and he's still lost
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:06
What kind of AdMech lists does he go for?
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 20:07
he's tried a bunch of different ones
usually has a few dunecrawlers and robots
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:07
It is kind of super weird to play right now imo- horde Stygies lists work pretty well, Mars gun line is still a thing but easily counterable if the dice don’t go your way
Like 3 dunecrawlers and kastellans?
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 20:12
2 crawlers cos thats all he's got
2 to 6 bots depeding
then sometimes the little skitarii dudes or a load of those tracked things
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:16
Those tracked things are not points efficient this edition :( they are a trap sadly
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 20:20
yeh
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:25
Skitarii Vanguard massed as Stygies walking across the table works pretty well though
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 20:44
Target priority is also weird as AdMech and still throws me off :P
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 20:45
heh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 21:05
Biker captain fixed
so far on the couple of forums I've put feelers out at, most custodes players are in favor of keeping the base vexilla displayed even if a relic is selected, since it is the most likely thing to change game to game
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 21:14
@WindstormSCR Honestly, in my Pinyan that’s how all relics should be
That’s why in all my cats that’s how it’s implemented
Opinion*
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 21:19
eh, some cases I can see why it's replace, with how complex the selection logic can be otherwise
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 21:22
I get that; however, imo it is more correct for the item replaced to remain on the sheet as a reference when a relic is selected.
Also it keeps relics all centralized and more easily understood; case in point that daemons relic bugrep the other day
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 22:01
at the moment the hide logic doesn't want to work
I'll keep playing with it, I have a feeling I'm missing something
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 22:04
I did that for GK (hiding) and ended up disliking it in practice fwiw
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 22:05
Yeah hides are goofy
Don’t bother
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 22:06
@/all given the above, and the sequence at which relics can be changed, perhaps worth a discussion?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 22:17
Since we were making the discussion of relics and psykics as last thing; using SSEGs for ALL relics seems the most reasonable implementation
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 22:43
was just watching an LVO game on FLG's stream, one of the players was a proper cunt
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 22:49
Last I saw the stormcast/nurgle game was on- one of those players?
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 22:51
nah it was a 40k game
round 8, ynnari vs imperium
ynnari guy was slow playing really bad
imperium guy in a rush to catch up put some reserves down before the end of the phase
ynnari guy waiting till he'd finished putting em down and then called him on it when he went to move something else
and convinced him that it meant he'd lost the rest of his movement phase
he should have just lifted em back off the table, completed his moves and then put them back down
fuck all in the rules to say you lose your phase, or that you can't backtrack if you make a mistake
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 28 2018 22:55
That’s normal tourney play at high level, unfortunately
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jan 28 2018 23:05
I think I'm the only one who doesn't like that custodes are a Faction now lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 23:10
eh, I was dubious, but after reading the HH and reading the lore in the codex, I think they have a purpose now
the grey knights need an overhaul, and hopefully custodes will give them direction to fix that, but lore-wise they are very different and doing drastically different things
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Jan 28 2018 23:16
Also 50 bucks for 3 models? WTF is GW thinking
James
@skonk
Jan 28 2018 23:19
Look at the price of Beasts of Nurgle
for 1 model
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 23:26
@acebaur at least it's not 75 for 3 like the centurion kit......
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 28 2018 23:47
FLG Twitch is elf on elf action now
Tony vs Nick
tekton
@tekton
Jan 28 2018 23:50
After working on the Custodes this weekend and playing them they seem far more worth it than Centurions and WAY more fun to put together and paint
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 28 2018 23:51
tbh custodes are about the only thing I don't mind the 50/3 and 60/5 box amounts, because the detail on every single bit is crazy high
and the cuts/separations of the plastic to avoid closeout-smearing (where a detail piece is extended when it shouldn't be, think old mkV marine tactical legs) are very very well done
first of the recent kits I actually felt was somewhat fairly valued because I can appreciate how much of a technical ballache it must have been to cut the mould for