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4th
Feb 2018
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Feb 04 2018 03:33
@WindstormSCR That paint job was back before they had water to thin their paints XD
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 03:34
I find it funny the Aurox is practically written to allow chimera counts as
multilaser 360deg weapon, top hatch, rear access ramp, 11/11/10...
Austin C.
@capitaladot
Feb 04 2018 04:30
Anyone know a good solution to unclickable "link must have a target that exists" Data Editor errors?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 04 2018 04:31
find and delete in xml.
only way that’s worked previously
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 06:40
Yeah, that usually means a missing category and is tricky to track down in the data editor...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 04 2018 07:01
If you're copying between cats (which is usually when I get this), try removing all the categories from the source before copying. Just don't save the source file!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 17:49
@FarseerVeraenthis re: #2409 it's not optional because it's fixed wargear that is never replaced on the foot autarch datasheet
even if you use index options it is always retained
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 17:56
Yup, I see what's happened. This is caused by the change in handling of Index/Codex options from when the data was first updated to include the codex options and now... I think the minimum was originally linked to the index/codex choice box to show/hide wargear. That choice no longer exists so the star glaive cannot be removed...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 17:57
I did that intentionally after the designer commentary flowchart to be correct with the flowchart
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 17:58
It should be an easy fix, if my computer is working after I installed another hard drive to replace one that was failing... If the clone worked, all will be well, but that was earlier today and I've not fired it up again yet!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 17:58
it doesn't need fixed though
it's a user error not our data
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 17:58
Really...?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 17:59
designer commentary you use the codex datasheet (with all its fixed wargear) and then only use the OPTIONS from the index
in the case of the foot autarch, that just gives him access to the 'take two' list
the wing autarch already has an item from the list (power sword) and can thus replace his power sword as per the index list
the skyrunner is in much the same boat, having two lists with similar replacement options on the same model
where this gets weird is pistols, because GW made an explicit text exception in the 'example' case, where they armed a wing autarch with a pistol despite that being INDEX fixed wargear
its the messiest mess
but the implementation currently in place matches the designer commentary RAW
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 18:12
@FarseerVeraenthis if you wish to disagree I can step through the logic on each autarch, it took me about two hours to iron out the first time :(
because "deprecation was a mistake"
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 18:14
That's cool, I think I get it, for some reason I don't have a copy of the index on my Google books so I couldn't check the wording
And I've only just fired up my computer...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 18:18
if GW had said "add the index wargear and wargear options" to the designer commentary, this would be a whole lot less of a mess, which is I think what they intended, but not what they wrote
zopha
@zopha
Feb 04 2018 18:28
For those waiting for FW
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 04 2018 18:29
Right, yes, reading everything all together it's not possible to "give up" the star glaive, so this could be some WAAC player trying to squeeze a few extra points out of an HQ choice
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 18:30
@zopha ?
zopha
@zopha
Feb 04 2018 18:35
Sorry, damn app
Custodes rules from FW. "Somebody did ask in one of the Seminars regarding 30k Custode items getting 40k 8th Ed rules, and vice versa - the writers gave the general blanket answer of "It's something that needs to be worked on", meaning that it's not on their current workload."
James
@skonk
Feb 04 2018 18:56
think ive scrapped a 2000 points list with the custodes stuff i have so far (no bikes or the named hq yet) so i'll have to try them this week
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 04 2018 19:00
I don't really mind no FW rules yet, simply because I'm only using them as allies
but lack of coronus/caladius is painful for those trying to full army them
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 04 2018 19:56
@Mad-Spy that’s a BS “bug”
It’s not really a bug, just how it handles collectives