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6th
Feb 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 06 2018 03:02
question for those that play IG
what do you think the better take would be for an allied guard section if I had to pick one kit (will be made swappable) Hellhound Kit or LR demolisher kit?
its to go with a bunch of scions and custodes
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 03:07
Hellhounds for DAYS
Run it as an Artima
The demo is just... sad
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 06 2018 03:22
was thinking plasma/punisher variant
probably turn the demo cannon into a conq turret
but I see what you mean, the idea for the scions is to supply CP and add some screen removal/ranged AT
areas where the custodes are unfortunately lacking
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 06 2018 05:31
Depends on what you want
The Punisher -- especially with Pask or a TC -- excels in clearing infantry/hordes/chaff
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 06 2018 05:34
I'm thinking the leman russ, purely because I can change it over to an annihilator to pick up the anti-tank slack once I get the rapiers to use as quad launchers
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 06 2018 06:28
Unfortunately a BC LR doesn't exactly excel at anti-tank
S8 v T8 isn't a match made in tank-killing heaven LOL
I mean, it'll do the job, but it's not quite as efficient at it as I'd like it to be
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:24
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So... do you select a target within 6 inches, and do d6 shots at that target rolling to hit; and then roll d6 auto hits vs everything within that range around the model?
or do you not shoot the "Piatol D6" shots, and just do the D6 auto hits per unit as listed in the Ability?
The way it's written; I'd say you get to shoot the pistol at a target and then by shooting it you activate it's ability and eveything within 6 inches takes another D6 hits.
but that feels jenky as fuck
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Feb 06 2018 15:27
feels like it should just be "every unit within 6" gets d6 auto hits", full stop, end of weapon, but your right, why is it then "pistol D6"
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:27
yeh
the initial Pistol D6 shots would need to be rolled to hit
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:27
I think the pistol d6 is just so it can do it when locked; so just follow the wording of the ability
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:27
it should say Pistol *
or something
then you use the ability to work out how many shots it does and so on
one of the worst written weapon profiles ive seen
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:29
That’s the dreadclaw right?
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:30
yeh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:30
It’s FW
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:30
at 130 points now It's tempting to use them again
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:30
How many times have we established that FW wrote some crap 8e rules? Lol
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:30
well GW have wrote some stinkers too :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 06 2018 15:31
at least they make some attempt to fix them :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:31
Not as consistently bad as FW ;)
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:31
i suspect its not so much the writing
more the lack of other people checking them
some rules feel like no one was given them to read and check over
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:31
One as bad as the other
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:32
GW have a bigger team I assume so perhaps more eyeballs on the rules
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 06 2018 15:32
Either way FW has been consistently bad at writing rules for 8e
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Feb 06 2018 15:34
like the 0.5% change of deny the witch on SoB
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 06 2018 15:35
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James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:43
:)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 06 2018 15:47
....sadly, still valid
Honestly though I don't see an issue with that pistol rule
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 06 2018 15:51
it doesnt say "instead of making hit rolls" or "instead of choosing a target" or something similar
so you could argue that you still make D6 regular attacks with it in addition to getting the auto-hits
James
@skonk
Feb 06 2018 15:52
Thats how the rule reads yeh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 06 2018 17:33
@CrusherJoe i wasn't talking regular BC russ. The double lascannon turret russ with a hull las. 5 lascannon shots is pretty decent heavy AT
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 06 2018 18:33
Ah the Annihilator.