These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

14th
Mar 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 00:35
So...yeah. I think you're good to go. :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 14 2018 01:10
just closed out a few bugreps for things we’ve got mostly sorted
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 08:01
I shouldn't do this to myself
Current Eldar Collection fielded WYSIWYG: 7802
battle forges into 5 detach: brigade, supcom x3, vanguard
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 08:56

@WindstormSCR

I shouldn't do this to myself

But now it sounds like a good idea

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 08:57
1 more squad of wraithguard (for 25 wraithguard/blades) would make it an even 8000
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 08:57
were they your first ?
army
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 14 2018 10:28
Pfftt
8k?
That’s nothing lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 14 2018 10:31
Well, not nothing, but certainly there are bigger collections it seems
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 14 2018 11:21
My smallest collection is 8 or 10k lol - my blood angels are like 20k
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 11:28
custodes and blood angels are probably my smallest armies but they both probably go over 4k each
the last time i added up my Tau it was at over 60k points but this was in 7th
Chaos will be by far my biggest though
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 11:36
i thought about adding up the financial cost of all my warhammer stuff
but then i realised it would probably total up to enough to buy a new car or a fucking house... so I didn't bother
zopha
@zopha
Mar 14 2018 12:44
It you have home insurance it might be worth doing it. Unless you have receipts for it all.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 12:54
*is worth doing. It's a collectable, same as any other - it should be insured :)
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:02
i dont even have general home insurance :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:08
That's ... a mistake.
Without going into personal finances among data authors - Insurance is in general, a good thing to have.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:13
I'm going cold turkey here guys .. I need a rumour fix ... some one hit me up ?
yesterday was too much, right in the mainline
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:14
After Necrons
Rumor has it. Orks, Deathwatch, Sisters, Imperial Agents, Imperial Knights, Space Wolves, or even a brand new codex will be released.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:16
apparently a reliable source has said kroot will get their own book
but im sceptical
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:17
I've heard Grots might get a codex.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:17
a whole book for T'au slaves ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:17
And a whisper of Squats making a comeback too.
Custodes got one.
They're slaves to a dead man.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:18
Squats ? yeah right ... the rest of your stuff was good .. but that's just cut up sawdust and talcum powder
and glass
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:18
The rest of my stuff is the remaining codexes lol.
DE are next - after that, there's nothing on the mill that i've seen for 40k
AOS has supposedly Sea Aelves next
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:19
Kelp, Kelp everywhere.gif
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:20
the same source also reckons russ and angron are next in line for primarch models
though those are pretty obvious candidates
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:20
the same Angron that's as tall as a warhound on the table? yeah I heard something like
just so he can look down on Magnus
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:21
yeah, i heard he was going to be big, but no scale was mentioned
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:21
nice ninja edit
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 14 2018 13:21
bols has an article stating black legion vs space wolves box set, with new abadon, also russ in a morenthi style mid battle transformation, and angron (not all in the same box obv)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:21
no one saw that right
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:22
im bad at typing. good thing my job doesnt depend on it :P
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:22
lol
doesn't coding tools have an autocorrect yet ? ... so you can do like in the movies and hack at the keyboard 500wpm while watching TV and drinking mountain dew without a single typo
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:24
Oh btw; GW didn't deliver todays order to my local
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:24
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:25
so no Tau dex :(
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 14 2018 13:25
with all the errors that autocorrect makes i don't think we'd want that
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:25
They did however, deliver last weeks missing order
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:25
but yeah, most coding tools have autocomplete
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:25
And the shops shut tomorrow so hopefully friday
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:27
Welp, I'm never gonna be a hacker ... like the third button i press
FML
someone say T'au ?
points values are new right ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:30
I think?
We've had not that many tau leaks actually
Just that points were decreased
and changes to saviour protocols
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:33
looks like amis has already made a bunch of points changes on his codex branch, so i would guess we've already seen that
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 13:36
@Kohato you just named off all the possible codex releases, didn't you?
Because someone said Sisters and triggered my alarm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:36
Yes.
I, at least, think i'm hilarious.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:37
he didnt mention eldar squats, so im not convinced
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 13:37
:+1:
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 14 2018 13:37
aaand now I'm sad I didn't get the joke .... booooooo
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:37
What's that, Demiurge Brotherhood is getting models before sisters?
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:38
oddly, he didnt mentioned Dark Eldar which are actually known to be the one directly after necrons :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 13:38
...probably
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:38
well its not a rumour if its already been announced ^^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 13:38
I want to play BFG2. Time to scour the skies with some necron fun
Exactly.
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:47
would be nice of the rumour about a new abaddon model was true
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 13:47
Agreed
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 13:48
never understood why they didn't release a new model for him back when they did the first gathering storm book.. which was ya know... about Abaddon... and ya know... had a massive image of him on the front cover
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 14 2018 13:48
Abba-dabble needs some sexy new plastic
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 14 2018 13:49
yeah, i had the same thought - gathering storm books were about chaos, eldar, and the imperium. the models they released were imperium, eldar, and imperium
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 17:20
@sk_Father_Price_twitter no, guard were my first, and got sold to support life things and other projects (mostly my RG). They are my current largest and favorite though. And a goodly chunk painted
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 21:59
interesting
new terrain kits soon
here's hoping that its not a lipstick on a pig shadow wars clone
as much as I wanted to like SW:A it was really gamey
and consisted of a couple factions steamrollering everyone else
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 22:37
omg you weren't kidding
Kroot rumors
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 14 2018 22:41
Kroot Mercs use to have their own army
They were a full army while deathwatch was just 1 squad
So yeah no excuse
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:24
so, is the tau codex in yet?
I only ask because i am pretty sure i just loaded in the new index file and the coldstar commander is still forced to take the old weapons?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 14 2018 23:27
Have you got a codex? I don't.
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:27
no, but the info is out. and i will do before i play a game...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 14 2018 23:28
Basic info. Dataslates are still unknown.
James
@skonk
Mar 14 2018 23:28
I was hoping to have the dex today but GW didnt deliver the order
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:28
just want to plan my purchases before i drop by GW to pick up the dex
the info is defo out there... like all the points costs etc. but i concede your point.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:35
@NistrumCain sometimes the author of a cat will start a development branch working with rumor info, but as a rule we only release when we have official codex/epub in hand to work off.
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:36
ahhh, thats fair.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:37
if you're using the normal data sources you'll have to wait till a proper release. You could use the branchwork if there is any and you know how to use github to pull the files, but I don't know if there is any. Been busy myself with other things
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:38
yeah ill take a look at the branch. thanks
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:38
there could be datasheet changes we don't know about though. example stim injectors appear to be gone, who knows what else was altered
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:38
yeah
ha, I hadnt even thought about how the files were written.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:41
BS does come with the editor program, you can always open up the files yourself and poke around
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:41
I am a web developer :P im happy playing in XML
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:41
it has some 'interesting' quirks
well
we don't write direct in XML
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:42
how come?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:42
the editor saves as XML, but likes to occaisionally do 'special' things
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:42
hahah
how is the actual program written?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:43
which is why we have the catalog keeper system, to avoid the snarled mess that can happen if two people work on the same .cat at the same time
Java
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:43
ahhh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:43
though since you say you have XML expertise....
@amis92 is currently spearheading an effort to write a new editor that splits the files out into JSON for easier parallel work
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:44
that makes sense
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:44
but was having some difficulties with XML joins I think? I'm no coder
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:45
ooooh so it takes the XML and turns it into JSON?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:45
I only figured out how to drive the thing and it made sense because I'm a systems engineer
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:45
haha
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:45
yeah, then puts it all back in the right order
to generate a file
so you might have some useful knowledge to impart in the file breakdown/reassembly step?
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:46
ha, nice. is there some way i can talk to him, if nothing else would be an interesting thing to look at
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:46
I pinged him with the mention, he'll probably swoop in when he's awake again and give you a link to the room where that's being worked on
he's Euro so probably late there
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:47
awesome. yeah its almost midnight...
im off this week so i get to play night owl :p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:48
fun, the editor program isn't too difficult to get to grips with if you have some coding experience, its pretty much all constructed logic systems and containers
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:49
yeah im going to pull the branch and see where they have got to.. im guessing i would need permission from someone to push it but at least i can get to grips with it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:50
yeah, a good place to start is the wiki pages, we have a standards doc and the codeowners page lists who keeps what
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:51
*to wiki
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:51
the editor loves to make nasty XML version snarls if two people work simultaneously
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 14 2018 23:51
Hello :D
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:51
hey
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:51
so each faction or subfaction generally has a keeper who is the primary person working on the file, and should be consulted before doing things
which reminds me, @FarseerVeraenthis I'll take DE when they release if toreador has vanished into the mists
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:52
@amis92 windstorm said you were working on an xml>JSON system for the editor?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:53
For questions regarding necron codex: #2640
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:53
that gets me every time
"I will throw you into the sun"
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 14 2018 23:53
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:53
Carry on.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:55
Also, thank you for being reasonable coming in here asking stuff, its VERY refreshing
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:55
why, what normally happens?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:55
compared with the usual that spurs responses like #2640
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:55
hahahaha
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:55
Hey. I believe my pre-emptive Issue is plenty reasonable.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 14 2018 23:55
People have a very strange sense of entitlement
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:56
well yeah i guess
especially for what is effectively free
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:56
I wonder if reddit is still shitting on the necron leaks
It was changing hour to hour - either shitting on them, praising them, or shitting on them but saying they're not as bad as the tau dex
They could scrap every change except exploding scarabs and 4++ Vault save and i'd still be a kid in a candy shop.
I'll run only scarabs and a vault at that point.
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:57
you a cron player then?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:58
Aye sir
DarthPingu
@NistrumCain
Mar 14 2018 23:58
i dont know how you put up with the complaining
if there is one faction people have ALWAYS loved to hate its the necrons
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 14 2018 23:59
Oh yes. I played through decurion.
and granted, when that was the only such force out, it was op as fuck