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Mar 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 00:48
The basic problem with multiple people editing at once is the XML conflicts, which is why the cast keeper system exists
@H4lek1n @R42H generally the prcess for contributing if you're a new helper.
1) Find a bug you want to fix
2) check who is the 'keeper' of that cat (Codeowners file in the wiki has that list)
3) Ping the keeper here and ask if they're currently working on things
4) if not, fork the repo (you can't branch with basic permissions) and make the adjustment.
5) create pull request and ping the keeper for review. make sure to save as .cat instead of .catz
@amis92 @CrusherJoe @alphalas if someone could edit codeowners and add me for Custodes and Dark Eldar that would be good, been something I wanted to poke about but haven't remembered. I know the file has some finicky syntax requirements
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:10
@WindstormSCR thx thats generally helpful. the problem for me was, that i thought i had something to offer that possible nobody had and the first obstacle was to find contact information for amis. wasnt a big problem, if you really try, but could maybe stated more cleary like "contact xyz before you frag things up". not sure about r42h, but if he isnt a troll (not sure;), it seems he didnt find that info. also all the tuts are nice and well but the first time i heard that stuff doesnt actually work was from a user here. if a user realy reads all te tus and how tos and comes to the chat afterwards it might be dissapointing
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:11
it takes a little patience
the real problem is that the editor's XML output isn't always perfectly standardized that would make github perfectly useful
I'm not a coder by trade, so I can't tell you exactly WHY it goes tits up if two people work simultaneously and it falls apart
to the best of my understanding its the way github merges XML and the way the editor rearranges and structures the files
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:13
no doubt about xml being more complicated than the edtior, but imaging somebody learning everything and then find out merging doesnt work
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:13
I'm not talking about editing the XML directly
that when the editor makes changes it will sometimes re-order sections of the file (keeping unique IDs) but changing the order in which the file presents that gives github a fit to merge it
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:15
yeah i just mean stating some things on github are rather "beta" might be useful. i really didnt spend a lot of time bt it might be usefull to include that fact in the wiki
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:15
its very strange, just like some of the workings of the editor itself, but that's par for the course when battlescribe as a platform is a one-man-show
our files aren't. anything in a full release is proper rules
only branches that are in active dev right before a codex release might have beta rules or leaks
and those are not released to the appspot
the only faction with any sort of officially released beta rules is custodes, and those are tagged and hidden without actually choosing to display them'
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:18
i wasnt implicating that. just wanted to state that you might want to update the tutorials like "this and that might not work" before somebody really takes to much effort. for me it became quickly clear, for somebody else it might get confusing when he find a lot of tuts on merging an pulling issues when those features actually dont work
without the chat i might have dumped a lot of time^^
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:21
...huh
at one point that warning WAS on the wiki. now it's missing
@amis92 that's a curious thing. the warning you added to check here before submitting pull requests or file updates isn't there
on the wiki or readme
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:22
big advantage for me was i stalked amis before trying anything. the other guy.. well he might have not look much^^
I think that counts.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:24
true. but for me that was more like " might happen" not like " hey github actually doesnt merge"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:25
it can for small fixes
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:25
not a huge issue but might keep you from stupid questions like mine^^
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 01:25
Well, it's not like it doesn't. It's more that in a file with hundreds thousands of lines, resolving merge conflicts is doable, but very error-prone and time consuming.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:25
just not a giant codex-quality overhaul
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 01:26
So we don't actively discourage people from contributing, otherwise we'd be soon left with no one ;)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:26
FarseerV and myself have done some simultaneous work on craftworlds before, its just small changes instead of overhauling pretty much everything
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:26
ah ok there was a guy in the chat ..aphalus?.. that raised the impression better dont ttry at all
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 01:26
Yea ... it's a tricky game. You don't want to discourage help as this is all volunteer - but ... too many cooks, ya know
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:27
sure
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 01:27
Single bug fixes and edits are easy to merge in - overhauls like new codex files? Best left to 1 person to finish it out
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:28
normally i would have had more patience anyway. just the fact that i wanted a tau list and had no pen xD
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:28
@alphalas has been on the recieving end of well-intentioned merge clashes the most. I think it might have biased him heavily :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 01:28
Lmao, this is a hell of a workaround for not having a pen
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:28
i stole one but it was green :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:29
in other news, my rangers got in before the weekend, so I get to try them out tomorrow :D
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:31
so you are a wood elf?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:33
Eldar
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:33
space elf, still
i think i can play lizardmen after the the acient material was found anyway
for the grater good and all..
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:34
though I'm contemplating wanderers/sylvaneth for AoS
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:36
serious question: is there any need for aos when you still have guys that play 6th fb?^^
(pls say no)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:37
Eh, I treat them as different games for different desires
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:37
apearantly since they started witout points^^
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:37
AoS is like a more fun version of the old skirmish ruleset, and once you treat it as its own game it's easier to enjoy
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:37
but why not mortheim
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:38
mostly because of some copyright weirdness surrounding the work that was done on mordheim
apparently
anyway, space elves: https://imgur.com/gallery/UcHHW
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:38
oh, wasnt aware
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:38
that gallery is the most recent WIP log I have
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:39
tyrion looks really strange.. just saying
but nice. even if it is more lieke "standart".
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:40
hm?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:40
i somehow was good at painting fb but suck now even with easy tau
fb woodelves were tough and i managed but i cant finish e decent tau now
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:41
perhaps switch up techniques
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:42
more like kidnap a painter but yes
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:42
woodelves probably use more wash/drybrush. I found for eldar I had to change up my techniques and go more for recess washing to make the large surfaces stand out well
tau are much the same
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:43
i finished wood elves when i was 15, a year later dwarfes and later lizardmen and 15 years later i just suck. and you needed different techiques for every race^^
and tau are as easy as it gets... next army will be wolves..
maybe i have to get used to the new colors but i am still embarresd^^
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 01:52
my biggest problem are the paints that are watered down(possibly bad english)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 01:56
Bad english?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 01:59
aren't thinned enough? or that come pre-thinned and dry out too quickly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:05
@H4lek1n yeah @WindstormSCR got it - I’ve been burned a lot by well-intentioned helpers; it’s nothing personal
I’m just a grumpy bastard who lets his German grudgekeeping show a little too much sometimes ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 02:06
German grumpy old bastard? ... @Thairne ?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:10
@WindstormSCR i hace currently problems to get the wet ones evenly on the model
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:10
ah
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:10
yeah grumpy german bastard.. thats me xD
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:11
for basecoats I've taken to using a spraygun, then for any highlights I use very thin coats and a long-bristle brush
so it holds more paint and doesn't dry out as fast
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:11
spraxgun would have been probably better for me too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:11
then just multiple (4+) thin coats for light colors leaving plenty of dry time
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:13
my first auction on ebeay for tau looked easy but was niuln oil.. i just cant that stuff even.. spray would ppb do the trick
nuln iol shade
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:14
oh!
are you doing whole plates?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:15
@Kohato no not @Thairne - I’m not that grumpy or that old ;)
But I am German.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:15
the thing about washes is you generally just want to hit areas that have lots of recesses. in the case of Tau/Eldar that's what I meant about recess washing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 02:15
That's true. You admit when someone has fallen to chaos
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:16
And ain’t nobody better at holding grudges then Germans
EXACTLY lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:16
I'm off to bed for a couple of hours. Can I pretty please ask someone to add the mechanics for +1/+2 relics (sig systems) for a stratagem? :D Any additional work done will also be appreciated.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 02:16
Or the next daemon primarch
The Lion
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:16
for the plates just take a brush with long bristles but a really narrow point, and carefully line through the gaps in the armor plate
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:16
@Kohato YES!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 02:16
I give it 4 hours until our summons reaches him
and the resulting outburst is heard round the galaxy
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:17
@amis92 you want me to do what I did to custodes for them?
if you could shoot me a PM with the relic pages so I can rig the logic that might help
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:17
@Kohato I give it 3.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:17
Uhh these were leaked earlier, but I can dig for them :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:18
It’s already 3 am there iirc
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:18
I just need the usual who can take what. Tau Codex branch right?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:18
Uh-huh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:18
Sorry 4am
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:19
PL is CET, so I'm 3:19 now ;D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:19
Having grown up with family in Germany the 6hr Time difference is something I’m quite familiar with lol
It’s still 10:19 here :p
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:21
I'm off to bed for a couple of hours. Can I pretty please ask someone to add the mechanics for +1/+2 relics (sig systems) for a stratagem? :D Any additional work done will also be appreciated. i can give the data but not add
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:21
i can give the data
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:22
got it
now to see if the trick that worked for custodes will work well here
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:22
yeah we tau just take the 2+ melee. no prob at all
can i add pictures here on phone without uploading to 3rd party?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:24
@H4lek1n thanks! Your engagement is appreciated, really :D That's what partially gives us motivation to keep doing our work.
Don't know if from phone will work, but from desktop you can for sure.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:25
thats not engangement, i am just lazy
i have no pen :(
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 02:27
Okay, 'night for me, when I'm back I'll signal it and continue from whatever I wake up to :D (7hrs prob)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:27
good night
(not tooo long though.. ;)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:32
just cant that nuln oil even. the accents no problem, but even..
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:36
@amis92 Implemented, signature systems now will count correctly with the strats
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:36
So uh, apparently mech standard spray is a high build spray
As in one quick light coat give a totally solid cover
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:36
the grey?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:37
Yeah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:37
yeah, all of GW's spray line is now designed for prime and basecoat in one shot
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:37
its nuln oil shade, i cant get it freking even
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:37
I was expecting it to require a heavy coat like meph red
Nope light coat done
Unfortunately I ran out of meph red spray before I ran out of big resin things -.-
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:39
if you mean my pic it mechanicus grey + nuln oil shade and i can get the latter look good^^
*cant
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:39
So now I gotta brushcoat red to finish off 2 dreadpods abd 3 dreadclaws
@H4lek1n no I’m doing a commission of sylvaneth
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:40
ah ok
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:40
Customer wants them to be birch so I started mech grey, gunna give them a good dark nuln wash, then build up to white
My personal army in 30k and 40k is blood angels
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:41
just out of couriosity what do you take per troop modell
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:41
So I’m very familiar with meph red lol
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:41
heh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:42
For which army?
The sylvaneth I’m pretty sure the 55 dryad/branch things I just sprayed are his battle line
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:43
generlally for easy troops. buddy paid 200 euro for maybe 30 models that semmed rather expansive to me
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:43
Well it depends on what army you’re running lol
I’m probably not a good example personally I tend to run expensive/elite armies lol
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:44
the space marines with -1 hit for him. seems rather easy to me since they were al black^^
dont remeber the chapter name..
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 02:45
Raven Guard?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:45
Raven Guard. and they're surprisingly difficult to paint well
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:45
Oh @WindstormSCR playing a world eaters army tomorrow
Would you believe I’m out-cc’ing him? Lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:46
mainly because they don't have a lot of accents to pick out from the black, so if you have a bad black job, it SHOWS
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:46
well since you two agree, probably
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:46
they're my other army besides Eldar!
mostly for 30k
@alphalas I hope you have a way to stop a spartan before it drops red butchers all over you
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:47
space elves + sneaky marines.. tzz
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:47
He’s sinking all his points into 3 dreadclaws, 2 special Ks, and an avenger suborbital wing -.-
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:47
hmmm
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:47
I’ll pm you the lists lol
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:47
Raven Guard. and they're surprisingly difficult to paint well
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:47
you could be unsporting and try to use an infiltration list, take up the whole board and dare him to mishap
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:47
It’s basically a mirror match
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:48
due to accents?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:48
there is so little accent that if you do a poor job on the black it is very easy to tell
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:48
heh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:49
example just basecoating it isn't enough, you need to edge highlight with skavenblight dinge or similar in order to avoid it looking horrible
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 02:51
When I did my deathwatch I had a fair bit of luck drybrushing eshin, dawnstone, then hitting it with nuln
It actually turned out pretty well
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:51
i have the feeling my uncle got a second veeery black playing field for a reason^^
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:53
@alphalas I do my deathwatch in nuln gloss to give the armor a shine
but I really am trying to avoid that and do a matte black for my RG, but my will is breaking (I hate edge highlighting black :( )
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:54
are there several uln shades or colors now? in fb der wasnt much variation you just had to experiment. was a decade ago tough.. maybe i just shouldnt have bought nuln shade
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 02:55
there are many different shades, but three of them (reikland, agrax, and nuln oil) have gloss versions that add a very shiny finish to the washed parts
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 02:59
i mean are there different versions of the nuln oil. on german amazon i am not sure
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 03:00
Just 2
Nuln and nuln gloss
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 03:01
truth be told not sure wat the difference are between the colours anyway.. shade is wit more water or different at all? when i last played there wasnt much
i have nuln oil shade and i can get it even
seems very fluent though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 03:06
the shades are not meant to be used for color coverage, they're supposed to flow into the rescesses and smaller gaps in a model to mute colors there and enhance existing colors
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 03:08
yeah that would explain it. but on amazon there was just the shade. was very difficult to get an even color with that
in my days you would just brush... no shade^^
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 03:09
these are actually very helpful
they're a lot of painting guides done by a couple of the studio presenters, and are actually quite good for some things
I stole their methods for painting wolves and gold armor
they work a treat
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 03:11
thx, will have a look when sober
wolves seems like good old wood elves to me but have to get used to the different colours
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 04:08
looking to the guides i havce just used the wrong nuln
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe finishes painting. Finally.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 17 2018 06:33
Got an RTT tomorrow -- a primer for Alamo GT
Gonna give the Banana Hammock a spin, see how they work out
R42H
@R42H
Mar 17 2018 08:28
@WindstormSCR thank you Immensly for your advice yesterday! I feet kinda lost, and your advice is exactly what I was looking for. Thank all of you for your patience with me! :smile: :thumbsup:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 13:51
If anyone cares for a breakdown of point cost changes from the beta dex
I've started putting everything into the cat just in case nothing changes.
IE: Everything is awesome, except that wraith cost increase
Rather hope that gets knocked odwn a bit
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 13:54
for how character heavy they are now that looks like some decent changes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 14:05
oh yea, down across the board, but wraiths up that much really hurts
especially since there's 3 in each forgebane box too :/
but overall, great
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 17 2018 14:57
Monolith - No Change
boooo
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 14:59
yea :/
with no changes to the whip or flux arc either
and no invuln
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 15:26
Guys, little help. I have a situation where there are 3-9 XV8s per team, one of which can be a Shas'vre. How to set a constraint that any model can take 1 XV8-02 Iridium, but also it's 1 per 3 models?
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^ Doesn't work. The decrement is set to decrement on XV8-02 shared link of the 'vre.
Ha! I didn't check "and all child selections" xD Okay, all good, all good :D
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Mar 17 2018 15:37
What's wrong with the monolith? Seems pretty good to me
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 15:46
400~ points for a decaying slow 3+ gunship. It gets shredded by anything -2 or better and can't hide anywhere
If you are using it for deepstrike troops the strategem may make it worth it ...
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 16:59
It gets also outshined by a lot of cheaper stuff with their special shield
Freaking annoying for tau players😀
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:04
Haha. Just ping it to death with 1/2 damage things
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:07
right now crisis suits with a single market light are one of the better things to take them out between CIB and BC spam oddly enough (I may speak from experience...none of the Necron players here want to play my Tau lists anymore; something about losing Ghost Arks to a single round of suit drops)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:09
Forgebane is out :)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:09
True but i usuaoly need cib and midsles for heavy infantery and those bugs with 12 movement who ignore Terrain. Depends strongly if you expect to play against them
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:09
160 USD
2 have been purchased.
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:10
it's more than calth? dang it
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:11
Well 2 Knights.. seems still cheap
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:11
It's a lot of models
3 wraiths, 5 immortals, 10 rangers, 2 onagers, 1 cryptek, 5 pratorians, and a techpriest
well more than 2 start collectings
and FLG has them on sale 15% off - 138$ each
free shipping
(for US)
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:12
the new zeland price has them a dollar a part
i'll frontline or mini market pre-order at this point most likely, can't drive from the new meds to go support a local store today :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:14
It'll be a "Limited" set
so buy soon I supppose
It's noon - why are there not 50 issues asking for the new tau cat file
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:18
Went with frontline- close enough I can drive down and yell at them if needed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:18
nice, that's who I did - 2 of them ordered and ready :)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:18
better question how high is amis supply of cocaine..did he sleep?^^
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:18
@Kohato Tau players just collectively knew how bad it was and are dreading it
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:19
im more scared of their bugs actually
what are the point costs for the new knights?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:22
no clue
they'll be in the box though
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:22
~240 when decked out on the box iirc
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:23
240 is what we guess based on the other units costs
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:23
one of the guys reviewing it actually confirmed it was in that range when the melta and melee weapon are equipped
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:24
oh nice
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:24
can make it cheaper by using a heavy stubber, but if you're trying to shave 13 points for something that doesn't fit the role maybe you're taking the wrong thing
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:25
i think its safe to say that eisenhorn is so radical that i can put him on a tau list and those knights seem legit as bodyguard
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:26
I mean i run admech alongside necrons
robot buddies right>?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:26
sure sounds right
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:27
there are some tech priests that would probably be fine with
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:27
"some"
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:28
our last 2v2 I got paired up with a Necron player when I brought my AdMech Horde list...so many metal men running up the board, it was great
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:34
just ion weapon field testing now :P
James
@skonk
Mar 17 2018 17:34
did the people who needed it get hold of a copy of the Tau dex?
Finally manage to get my hard copy
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:34
amis has one
not much fluff in it right? im more used to stories ect from fb days
just expand, get trashed, repeat
tau online btw
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:41
or here
James
@skonk
Mar 17 2018 17:43
yeh i just snagged it ta :)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:44
looks totally different from my german version
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 17:45
That;s cause the 2nd link is the 7th ed
lol
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 17:45
oops^^
seems to have more fluff..so nice anyway for me^^
tekton
@tekton
Mar 17 2018 17:51
now to make my melee stormsurge list
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 18:04
i think i might get a boner if i could use fusion blades on ghostkeel^^
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 18:15
Hey, a question: do you think I should do some Sept Selection?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 18:16
might be easier for people when they work with different septs and also if printed out. if its not too much work for you iit would be nice i think
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 18:29
now i am really depending on you.. just burned my whole right hand^^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 18:29
Like let players choose sept?
aren't some relics locked behind septs?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 18:30
yes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 18:30
Then yes - you should have to choose a sept
as that is part of the list building process and not chosen at deployment
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 18:31
maybe i can become a moslem prophet now. halfmoon burned into my palm^^ or a goblin halfmoon hero at least
Lord Halekin of the crooked moon has some ring to it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 18:42
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What am I doing wrong? It doesn't work. ;(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 18:46
does it not limit
or deos it alwahs limit
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 18:58
I fiddled with it a bit and I'm not sure :/
Maybe there's another example somewhere of using matched play as a condition we could look at?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 17 2018 19:01
Doesn't limit. Well, I'll release anyway. 99% done except some checks.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 19:46
is it already possible to make a list with that? or after master update?
cant figure out how to use the tau file in the roster editor
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 20:20
4hr
is usually what it takjes
fo mobile
otherwise you can use the files manually
on pc
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 20:25
i downloaded the cat and tried to import it with battlescribe but it doesnt show
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 20:31
Anyone else having issues with the appspot repo? It's unavailable for me.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 20:31
strangly after deleting all depositories i can still make lists..
@nsmaassel yes but the page does say it might be just traffic
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 20:36
the branch on github is still available but i dont know if it can be used with the roster editor
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 21:09
BSData/wh40k#1706
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 21:09
Interesting. Thanks.
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 21:33
I grabbed the files from github and made a local bsr file with the data indexer, if anyone else is looking for a temporary way to get the data into Battlescribe.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 21:33
You can also upload the cats to dropbox :)
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 21:34
Oh, haven't tried dropbox with battlescribe yet. Sounds faster :)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 22:00
can i just replace the old tau with the new version from today or will that cause problems?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Mar 17 2018 22:21
nevermind didnt see its a different file type
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 17 2018 22:38
You can
Catz is just a compressed cat
BS works on revision #
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 17 2018 22:53
Ugh here come all the #1706 duplicate issues-.-
Vincent Goede
@StealthKnightSteg
Mar 17 2018 22:57
server down? getting all https 500 messages while updating
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 22:57
That's literally what @alphalas just referenced, lol
Vincent Goede
@StealthKnightSteg
Mar 17 2018 22:58
ow lol
nsmaassel
@nsmaassel
Mar 17 2018 22:58
But yeah, it's unavailable for now. For me anyways.