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19th
Mar 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:03
at least with dudesmen i’m not sinking 80+ points into one dudesmen, and they’re still decently effective
Um, no. A single banana biker captain shoots them then charges them to mop them up. At least that's how it worked for me yesterday. :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:13
They also evaporate to a Vulture Punisher.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 00:19
@CrusherJoe this is true
HOWEVER
What Tau other then big battlesuits doesn’t do that?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:30
Technically what infantry other than Marines (or anything with a 3+) doesn't?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 00:33
@ShadowsofVanity_twitter fitting that the only two factions that can make the warlord's weapons sniper are Eldar and Necrons
via mephrit or Mark of the Incomparable Hunter
my favorite use of it so far is on a wraithseer with a D-cannon
Heavy D3 str 12 -4 D d6 ignoring LoS and sniper? :D
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:34
Okay that's not cool LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 00:35
I've only done it twice, both more for laughs than actually being effective
the problem is doing that instead of a reaper autarch makes it really easy to hand over slay the warloard because a wraithseer has 12w, and can thus be picked out and shot anytime
T7 12w, 3+/5++
might go to T8 like wraithlords once FW updates the sheet someday, but I doubt it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:37
That's Pask-bait right there
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 00:37
so even with fortune or deliverance it does have a bad time
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 00:38
Howeva
That D-cannon could jack up a Banana Hammock pretty well too. Wounding on 2s lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 00:39
the d-cannon (or wraithcannon), the fact its spear re-rolls against vehicles with a higher AP than standard wraithlord, AND the fact it gives out a unique psybuff, makes it a hot target that not even T7 5++/5+++ can't save it from
its durable, but it still often dies turn 1 vs people who know what it does
that's why I'm converting a second one tomorrow :P
and taking pics of the process for farseerV
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 01:43
:+1:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 01:55
I do like it paired with a quicken warloack though, because it means I can deepstrike 2 units of wraithblades and be fairly certain both will get in
one from the extra move, the other from the wraithseer's 3d6 take 2 highest for charges power
Enliven: Select a friendly unit of WRAITH CONSTRUCTs within 12" of the manifesting PSYKER. Until the beginning of the controlling player's next turn, the targeted unit rolls an additional dice when Advancing or charging and discards the lowest dice rolled before totalling their final result.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 19 2018 06:20
I've always wanted a wraithseer... :wink:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 06:36
need two spare brightlances and some wraithguard/blades bits, but its pretty easy
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 06:52
they do look pretty cool
at some point i'll start on my eldar; i have about 2k ready to be put together
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 07:03
wraithseer makes a decent versatile HQ for low points
good mix of CC and heavy weapon
autarch is generally better at 1500+ for the cp regen
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 07:05
i think i have one of those, should really get that back in order this month...
been focused on tournament grey knights (ya ya, 8th on hard mode should just play guard, etc)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 07:06
@tekton well, give me a poke if you want list help and style help before you assemble, but I wouldn't touch a thing until after the march update/faq
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 07:09
it's going to be a bit fluffy with guardian blobs, fire prisms, bikes, and the worst craftworld: biel-tan
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 07:10
eh, I still argue saim-hann is the worst
people don't want it to be, but biel-tan at least has more interesting stratagem options
having innate rerolls on shuriken is nice, means you don't have to worry as much about autarch support with the blobs of guardians. morale will HURT though, so be ready for that
banshees and spears are two units you'll want to use multiple of
because of court
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 07:15
makes sense
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 08:30
Happy Necron Week everybody !
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 09:12
Hey guys :) just peeking in to tell you I'm still alive! I have been pretty busy with life but I'll fix all my bugs later this week!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 12:31
@Crowbar90 awesome- f1 season is starting up this weekend too lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 13:00
:)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 19 2018 13:04
idk who Captyn Bob is, but i like the cut of his jib
So working as expected?
Cool. If you do find a problem, raise it and usually gets fixed pretty quickly.
Do remember to be polite tho, these guys do all this for free out of the goodness of their hearts.
And please don't use the error reporting as a tool for voicing all your personal grievances.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 13:06
That's clearly someone from here who's aware of BCB's history.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 19 2018 13:07
yeah, and he's not the only one in that thread
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 13:08
i want to know who johnnyhell is and buy him a drink
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 13:09
:D
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 13:14
Yeah, I think there's a little issue actually. I believe you should be able to select 1 relic without having to select one of the "relic-stratagems". Selecting should enable you to take 2 or 3 respectively. Or am I wrong?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 19 2018 13:20
only if you warlord is from that faction
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 13:24
^^This
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 13:26
Yup. Custom error/warning texts would go a looong way towards better UX and less issues opened xD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 13:32
been focused on tournament grey knights (ya ya, 8th on hard mode should just play guard, etc)
That's not exactly true. While yes Guard are the Hammer or the Emperor they are not auto-win nor Easy Mode. Trust me. I'm pretty good with Guard (have played nothing but since Codex dropped, started playing them with Castellans of the Imperium formation in 7th -- which I realize is not a long time, but it's a lot of games) but you can easily lose games with them if you don't know what you're doing. Yeah they have really good firepower (matched only by Tau, I think, right now) but they're self-propelled sandbags with a 5+ save and they die in droves to decent firepower and anything resembling a dedicated assault unit.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 13:38
Having said that, yeah, Guard is pretty damned good. By themselves though, they're upper-mid-tier. In soup they really shine.
Man I want to reply to BCB sooooo badly
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 13:44
'cause I just woke up and that's when the savage runs loose in my head, looking for a victim -- and he would make a good one.
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe meanders around dakka for a few minutes, begins to break out in hives. Oh, right. He's allergic to that place.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 14:35
the guys at my local have badgered me into buying shadespire :(
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 14:37
YAY!!
Welcome to the Mirrored City!
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 14:47
need to learn how the feck to play it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 14:47
It's pretty simple, there are only like 5 things you can do in an activation.
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 14:48
easy to learn, hard to master, summoning is a trap
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 14:48
:)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 14:56
However, always expect your opponent, the dice and the card draw to ruin your carefully developed plan!
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 14:57
:(
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:04
Yeah Shadespire is good times
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:04
@Mad-Spy not always, mate of mine rolls like his dice have been touched by satan, but he never has the right cards to back up his play.. there is a definite amount of deck-building involved to make it interesting
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:05
i wasnt intending on buying anything extra for this (as in warbands) so i'll probably play the khorn guys
but from what ive seen at the local shop they dont seem to win much
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:05
My experience with the Khorne dudes is you have to play them counter-intuitively
You would think they were rush in and murder death kill
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:06
tabling an opponent is not always a winning strategy
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:06
But against the fantasy spess muhrines they're not so good
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:06
like you say. counter intuitive for Khorne berzerkers
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:06
wish they'd bring some nurgle stuff out
NURGLE!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:08
My name's the same on dakka as here, but I too would buy mr JH a drink :)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:10
The expansions do give a good number of "better" universal cards.
Well, we know the next two expansions, but maybe in Season 2.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 19 2018 15:14
@skonk This is the video to watch for Shadespire learning to play ... covers the basics https://youtu.be/HBcTk4Azndo
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:16
So I just followed all the links in BCB’s sig on dakka
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 19 2018 15:16
And?
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:16
nice one ta :)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:17

So I just followed all the links in BCB’s sig on dakka

This way lies madness

Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:17
@alphalas, I'm really sorry that you wasted that time.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:17
look at me! .. see how I break 40K for your entertainment
utter twonk
if anyone has become a self parody of the worst of our community ...
sk_Father_Price_twitter @sk_Father_Price_twitter asks @skonk to pass the Duck tape
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:19
he claims to play by pure RAW, then has a sig saying how the game cannot be played under pure RAW
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe hands his roll over to @sk_Father_Price_twitter
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:19
It's a case of taking RAW == RAI to its extreme limits. Any reasonable person can understand that RAW != RAI sometimes because we are fallible humans.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:20
indeed
in all cases he’s not wrong
however
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:21
he's just wrong.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:21
RAW is nonsense anyway
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:21
I'll go further. He's one of those that gets off on the mental masturbation of ruining something that other people enjoy under the guise of "being right".
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:21
RAW is always the individuals interpretation of RAW
The English versions of any rules GW write will always have issues with things being interpreted in different ways. Part of it is a quirk of the English language, part of it being GW's command of the English language having room for improvement.
A lot of the issues we see are actually local to the English versions of the rules
We have too many ways to say the same thing, or the same words have too many different meanings
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:25
First Necron preview is out - nothing stat-wise changing from the leak so far.
Tomb Blades and Sautekh trait.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:25
be honest here ... GW don't help either ... the number of issues we have hunting down when is a keyword not a keyword etc.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:26
and unfortunately - the same wording on resurrection protocols strategem .. yay paying for units again via CP and reinforcement points.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:26
@Kohato got a linky mate please ? too lazy to google
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:26
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:26

BCB on DD:

RaW everything breaks and a singularity is formed and we all die.

I think he forgot The Most Important Rule. Or he just can't stand that there's something called "agreement"...

Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:27
TYVM
oooh destroyers tomorrow ... yay, Necron week is go!
confirms that beta leak as farly legit though dunnit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:31
So far at least.
I never really thought profiles would change unfortunately
Just point values.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:32
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/40kNecrons-Mar19-Ressurection3fe.jpg
so uses re-inforcement points ? .. I would hope not .. but similar strats have mentioned where they don't in other codex
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:32
RAW (Yay above discussion) - it does.
The model is removed from the board
and is placed again
as opposed to Celestine who is "Instead of dying"
I'm 99% certain RAI is not to cost points and it would be faq'd in 2 weeks.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:33
so you have to buy 2 CCB's and on a 1-3 it's wasted points
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:33
No reenforcement points neede for that
it doesnt set set up a new unit of it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:34
But it's set up after it is slain
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:34
its the same unit
so no points
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:34
you would think
but then valhallans pay
I think it'll get FAQ'
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:34
Oh I agree with the intent 100%
It shouldn't be paid
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:34
'd soon enough
amis92 @amis92 waves for attention
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:34
but there is precedent enough that it would be, RAW
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:34
you only have to pay if its an entirely new unit or the rule its self says you have to pay
if its worded such that you set the sake unit up again it would be free
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:35

Guys, can I ask you for help?

What do you all think of the Commander situation? Should I remove the Index Commander and allow all others to take Sitms[Index]?

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:35
I think that's the other way around. Things say if you DONT pay
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:35
actually @skonk its the opposite by precedent, chaos has a couple of those that have to pay unless it says you don't
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:35
IE: chaos boon table
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:35
^^^^^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:35
Specifically says you don't pay for daemon prince
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:35
The Valhallan thing getting changed is because GW went on an anti-Conscripts rampage and decided to nerf them into oblivion
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:35
@amis92 yes
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:36
the main rules give you the base line rule
new units pay, added to the sae unit dont pay
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:36
ADDED to the same unit
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:36
some individual rules say either way, i guess cos the writer likes clarity
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:36
.....unless you're Valhallans. :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:36
this is not adding
this is bringing back an entire dead character
its not adding to an existing table unit, thus the issue
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:36
It is known that adding models to a unit up to starting count costs nothing.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:37
you dont pay for this
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:37
you shouldn't pay for this, but it needs FAQ
RAI is clear, for once
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:37
But putting a slain model back on the table - purely as written, costs points if it is done after the unit is slain.
Things get around it by either saying "Don't pay for this" or "Instead of being slain, do x"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:38
I just sent in a mail to the FAQ line in solidarity with my necron opponents
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:38
I'm 99% sure it will be FAQd, and thanks - I would be sending one tonight too, was just waiting for the release or preview to be sure it wasn't being changed from beta
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:39
Well... What's the argument for removing the Datasheet for simple Commander from Index?
I just didn't have to actually worry about Designer's Commentary until now, fully.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:39
The Model that is sold, Commander in XV8 has a datasheet in the codex.
The side effect of that, Commander in Enforcer does not get stims.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:40
Huh?
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:40
its not about model
its about unit
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:40
The stimm injector wasn’t on his sheet, it was an option in a list
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:40
The Unit in the index isn't in the codex using the same name
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:40
Technically @Kohato yes they do
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:40
The flowchart has model
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:40
yes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:40
Enforcer didn't have a model before - correct?
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:40
and this has been discussed
if you actually use the word model, the entire game doesnt work
if we use model then you can have tactical marines all with lascanons and jump packs
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:41
I think strictly speaking, technically it's a grey area set up by examples and precedents...
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:41
plague marines with jump packs etc
it HAS to be Unit
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:41
But it is model ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:41
Ok - the Unit sold
the Unit Sold is a commander in xv8
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:41
This is another RAW vs RAI isn't it.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:41
The Unit Sold has an entry in the codex.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:41
so how about custom models?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:41
skonk is right on this one, purely because GW likes to use one model as multiple different unit entries
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:41
what if you use MK3 or MK4 marines?
you cant compare models
it has to be unit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:42
there is a reason that old GW used 'Datasheet Name' as the unique unit qualifier
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:42
It's a cluster fuck written by chuckle fucks that have no respect for consistent design.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:42
if you apply the DC using Models the entire game gets broken
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 15:42
If you're taking a "Devastator Marine" model, it is different from a "Tactical marine" model, even though the actual piece of plastic might be the same.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:42
It's not even RAW/RAI, Designer's Commentary is a meta-rules document showing a flowchart which, RAW, as @skonk said, breaks the game completely. :D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:42
a lesson the 8th writers didn't seem to understand
So
In the vein of rule 0
my suggestion would be to leave your current implementation, and give the coldstar/xv8 commander the stim injector
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:43

Okay, I'll give Stim option to XV8 and Enforcer (Coldstar too?)

But still not sure if I should delete toe Index datasheet Commander

Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:43
@amis92 honestly in my understanding of the way it all works, all units that have access to the sig systems list should have access to old simm injector
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:43
every document produced by GW before the DC said Unit; so I would suggest that this one documents use of Model is in error
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:43
It should've been "Commander" and then give the option to take Coldstar or enforcer suits as wargear
is how it should've been written
Coldstar yes - that one had a data sheet in index
that allowed stims
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:44
@alphalas it was wargear, so why SigSys?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:44
enforcer is a new sheet
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:44
SigSystems are in the Wargear box in the index, so Sig Systems are Wargear
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:44
Wargear list not sigsys, that’s my bad lol
Not enough caffeine yet
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:44
Yeah, but the "model" was playable under Commander sheet that allowed wargear @WindstormSCR
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:45
That's the rub - if we're treating the new commander as a new datasheet - it can't get Stims
Same with enforcer
only coldstar
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:45
i still think thats open to debate
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:45
just give it to all of them to satisfy rule0 then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:45
If we say they can get stims, then that says it's the same datasheet as index
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:45
and leave index commander
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:45
meaning the index should be gone.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:45
^this
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:45
Screwed one way, fucked the other.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:45
and here begins the endless excuse of models rocking up with stuff "Because BattleScribe lets me do it" .. not that I have an alternative here or a toe in the game
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:46
question
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:46
Delete Index commander entry, give everything stimms
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:46
that's probably best path
intent is clear even with a rename
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:46
That's what I'll do. With stims everywhere, there's no real reason to leave Index commander
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:47
That'd be the best compromise I think
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:47
Gosh, I'll title that release "STIMULANT INJECTOR FOR EVERYONE"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:47
:+1:
@amis92 one more minor quibble
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:47
I think in cases where its clear (not DPoN) we should just accept the rename as was done with heralds
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:47
the problem for you lot.....
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:47
No, name it: Olympic Athletes from the Tau Empire
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:47
the "Blame Amis" edition
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:47
you have 2 ways you can go about this; support everything or support what you think is right
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:48
xD Now I have to decide which one's best ;)
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:48
either you support what you think is right you will get complaints that you dont support stuff that is technically within the rules... but is total bull shit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:48
Oh you know which one is best.
Welcome to the joys of being a maintainer.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:48
if you support everything then people will do stuff with their lists you think is bullshit
but
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:48
@skonk we’ve already established though we support everything, correct or not
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:48
what people do with their own lists, however bullshit it is, aint on you lot
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:48
@skonk I'll take the middle road: support everything we can within reason, unless a clear consensus can be reached
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:48
As I've said, many times, with as widespread as BS is - like it or not, we are rules arbiters.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:48
Haven't felt that for a while, I admit ;D
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:48
yeh
so if you support everything, as you do
dont worry about how wankerish people may be with those tools
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 15:49
^this
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:49
its on them to apply morals to their own play
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:49
that's why I advocated tags to let TOs sort through the bullshit easily
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:49
So you're saying we can continue to berate a certain Cat and close the issues that he/she raises?
:p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:50
nah, I'd prefer to take them as they come. the time before last they weren't a complete shithead
I keep hoping maybe one day they'll finally get it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:50
[re: Cat] Less berating, more civilised responses and we're in a good position for further escalation, please <3
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:51
Hey, I was civil for his last issue.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:51
Indeed. :cookie: for you
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:51
I think we all know my position on the subject LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:51
:beer:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 15:51
So Imma keep mah mouth shut
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:51
:beers:
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 15:51
@amis92 after reading that wonderful DC flowchart again, it's based on model not datasheet name, so it seems like you're good to go (yes I'm late, but I was triple checking)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 15:52
Thanks :D Never enough checking...!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:52
@skonk I'll make sure to ping you whenever model vs unit comes up for drukhari (if it does) since you have a good way of playing devils advocate
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:53
I dream of he day when GW manage to write an unambiguous ruleset....
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:53
we'll be old men by then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:55
Old men
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:55
For the tau players in here
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:55
You're optimistic.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:55
take another look at double burst hazards
ran across them while helping a friend build an 8th list
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:55
a lot of the Tau stuff will get FAQ'd in 2 weeks i reckon
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 15:55

take another look at double burst hazards

well, there's some innuendo

James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:56
i think the old support system use will be out
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:56
basically 2 high output burst cannons per guy
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:56
what i find odd is what there have been repeated issues in every codex that still didnt get hit with the FAQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 15:56
Double Burst Hazard. It's the cautionary warning for a sexy tau pilot.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:56
and 5 wounds base
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 15:56
like the renamed units thing, ud think that would have been faq'd
Daemons had loads of units renamed
CSM Daemon Prince units got renamed in the TS, DG books
some of them aint an issue cos no one would use the old ones, no reason to
but some of them could be an issue
DG for example, using the Index Daemon Prince get access to spells DG shouldn't have
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 15:57

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [52 PL, 1020pts] ++

  • HQ +

Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse rifle

Shas'o R'alai [10 PL, 155pts]: Drone controller, Experimental pulse submunitions rifle, Warlord
2x Blacklight Marker Drone: 2x Markerlight

  • Troops +

Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse rifle
4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse rifle

Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse rifle
4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse rifle

Strike Team [2 PL, 38pts]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse rifle
4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse rifle

  • Fast Attack +

XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [20 PL, 447pts]: Fletchette pod, Ionic discharge cannon, Phased plasma-flamer, Shield generator, Target lock

  • Heavy Support +

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [7 PL, 131pts]
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle, Target lock

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [7 PL, 131pts]
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle, Target lock

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [14 PL, 281pts] ++

  • HQ +

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [8 PL, 161pts]: 3x Fusion blaster, Shield generator

  • Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]
4x MV4 Shield Drone: 4x Shield generator

Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]
4x MV4 Shield Drone: 4x Shield generator

Tactical Drones [2 PL, 40pts]
4x MV4 Shield Drone: 4x Shield generator

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [38 PL, 697pts] ++

  • HQ +

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit [8 PL, 138pts]: Advanced targeting system, Burst cannon, High-output burst cannon, Shield generator

  • Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [14 PL, 302pts]: 2x Smart missile system, Ion accelerator, Target lock, Velocity tracker

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 84pts]
2x Stealth Shas'ui w/o support system: 2x Burst cannon
Stealth Shas'vre: Burst cannon

XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit [10 PL, 173pts]: 2x Burst cannon, Fusion collider, 2x MV5 Stealth Drone, Shield generator, Target lock

++ Total: [104 PL, 1998pts] ++

meanest 2k list I could come up with for suits-centric tau
running bor'kan
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 16:00
not sure what I'm looking at ... but somewhere a manga fan Tau player is having a "Double Burst Hazard Warning" moment
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 16:00
i think im gonna go Farsight on mine
when i first started, i was painting the odd bit in the standard white
but then later got into Farsight Enclaves and started painting em like that
i'll have to strip a bunch of stuff if i ever get around to painting more of em
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:03
Here you can listen to this when contemplating your...."cautionary warning" (it involved hard rock and anime...you're welcome)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 16:04
XV9 hazards from FW were the unit in question
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 16:04
I've gotta run, so if anyone fancies releasing today, I'll be glad. That point cost error on Shield Drone already raised 5(I think?) issues. Later!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 16:04
they have double barreled burst cannons as a weapon option
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:04
Dammit...instrument version. Here's the right one:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 16:04
assault 16 from one suit
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 16:05

Not to be lost: @/all

I've gotta run, so if anyone fancies releasing today, I'll be glad. That point cost error on Shield Drone already raised 5(I think?) issues. Later!

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 16:05
I should release now so I can see BS tweet out Olympic Athletes from the Tau' Empire
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:06
How do you do a release? I'm curious.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 16:07
Releases > Edit old release > Copy Changelog line > Back > New Release > Write witty Title > Paste changelog Line > Edit changelog Version Numbers > Increment Version Number on release > Release.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:07
Sweet. Thank you. :)
(Not that I'll ever do one, but it's nice to know how just in case.)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 16:08
Appspot then picks it up in 4~ hours and then there's a 50/50 shot that it'll kill the 40k repo on appspot for about 8
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:08
@amis92 if you are still around; can you please simplify the piranha to just be the basic model you pick options on, not each individual permutation of options as a separate model?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 19 2018 16:09
speaking of tweeting, the facebook page is still broken
hasnt posted anything since december
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 16:11
The Stealthsuits could do with an overhaul as well. I don't think it needs splitting out into individual wargear options for a six-model unit, just have people configure each one individually.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:11
@Kohato we’re t like 90% likelyhood of it hbreaking appspot tbf :P
@Mad-Spy EXACTLY!
there is no reason to make it so overly-broken out
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 16:11
Btw, re-reading the reserve points thing in the main rules
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:11
HOWEVER
i do like how amis has implimented pulse pistols on FW/Breachers
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 16:12
it does actually say resurrecting slain units costs points
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:13
@CrusherJoe take a look at that and see if it’ll simplify the elysian units we currently have complaints about
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 16:13
yeah, its an easy and common mistake @skonk
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 16:13
@alphalas, I have no problem with it for large units where there's only one or two options. But for a small model count unit with a plethora of options it seems overkill.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 19 2018 16:14
especially on a 50/50 chance dice
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:14
exactly
@Mad-Spy no i agree
there’s an elysian squad we’ve had complaints about; the way @amis92 implimented the FW/Breachers would fix the complaints nicely
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:16
Arrighty give me a few
Is it in Master or diff branch?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:17
Master
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:17
:+1:
You mean the "Fire Warrior squad options" thingy?
Oh! I see it now.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:22
Make "Elysian Drop Trooper with flashlight" and "Elysian Drop Trooper with flashlight and bang-bang" options
NICE
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:23
yes
so that they can be collectivized
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:26
It's brilliant. I shall steal it straightaway. LOL
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 16:32
While I'm in there I'll fix WLT as well #2658
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:34
:+1:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 16:34
That's good feedback. I'll redo xv25s and tx42s. Indeed, max 5/6 is too little to flatten the hell out of them. B-) I'll do that together with reworking abilities from rules to profiles.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 16:34
also check DK see i there’s anything you can apply it to there
@amis92 both tx42s and tx4s ;)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 19 2018 16:35
Good point 😄
Can you open an issue for it? So that I don't forget ^_^
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 16:42
I reckon you should leave those Tau issues open till the fixes are released and likely to be on peoples computers; getting a lot of repeat issue posts cos they don't know to check the Closed issues imo
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 19 2018 16:45
is there an in-between state we can add, like "dev done", to signify its been completed just not released, lets maintainers know the issues been fixed and no longer needs work, but also lets end users know the fixes arnt in the repos yet?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 17:19
Yea but Commits with Closes X is so neat and clean.
Not that people check open issues anyway :/ the first 4 duplicates were opened while the drone bug was still an open issue.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 19 2018 18:05
They were all BSDataAnon logs though, so those people don't get signposted to Github to check...
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 18:21
Because the first time I put those together years ago wasn't traumatizing enough: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/19/forge-world-preview-a-classic-rebornfw-homepage-post-2/ shudders
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 18:38
Haha
I don't get the appeal of those
The land speeder maybe ... but that tank is comical
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 18:40
And the proteus (the newold LR they picture) is completely worse then the Phobos (plastic LR)
It’s not an assault vehicle, it has lower transcap, and doesn’t have a twin hbolter
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 18:51
Well, not like they'll be selling to the 40k set when land speeders are bottom of the dumpster tier garbage
R42H
@R42H
Mar 19 2018 18:52
Hear Hear!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:16
Still seriously considering selling off all my RG unless the march update returns the fluff flavor to them
I don't care if they're mediocre choices, as long as I can take them and not auto-lose casual games
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:20
I forgot all about the march update
given that we only have 10 days remaining
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:23
@Crowbar90 need to put in the LSS options unfortunately
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:24
Even if blood angels were not allowed to take it?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:24
welcome to DC problems
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:24
yup
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:24
it doesn't care what the source is, only that a datasheet with the same name had an index entry
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:25
The Land Speeder Storm was indeed in the index.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:25
For its importance the Designer Commentary was shockingly poorly worded
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:25
oh ok, I stand corrected then
Yes, they could have mentioned this specific case
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:25
Not as a BA choice - but in the index nonetheless, with options.
And yes ... shockingly is understating it
A clusterfuck written by chucklefucks.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:26
You say "shockingly", I say "as expected".
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:26
^this
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:26
GW has gotten worlds better
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:26
Foolishly, I had hope.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:26
lol true
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:26
But keep in mind, they were in the shithouse before
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:26
hope is always a problem
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:27
Hope is the first step to disappointment
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:27
And disappointment leads to heresy.
Anyway I'm fixing it now.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:27
And heresy? Heresy leads to
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:27
As long as I can keep fielding my autarchs I care not
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:27
Heresy?!
where?!
At the rock?!
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:27
@CrusherJoe I guess heresy leads to exterminatus...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:28
Heresy leads to painting your armor green and keeping too many secrets
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:28
Oh, so Exterminatus happened to the Rock?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:28
@Thairne’s not here so it can’t be heresy
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:28
doomrider-heretic.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:28
We were both wrong. Our previous hereteical words never reached @Thairne
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Mar 19 2018 19:28
At the Rock? Nothing happened at the Rock. It spontaneously detached from Caliban, on which nothing happened anyway.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:28
apparently
now we muct casually tag @Thairne as much as possible
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:29
Whenever we mention Chaos Angels, of course. @Thairne
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:29
Let Me Tell You Why That's Heresy.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:29

cypherwasright

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:29
yeah... the more I think about it the more I realize I haven't played 30k in 8 months
so for the right price, I would dump my RG
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:30

thelionbetrayedtheemperor

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:30
keep a few things for deathwatch use
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:31

magnusdidnothingwrong oh wait

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:31
Magnus didn't do anything wrong
Dude got the short end of a short stick
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:31

magnushasDaddyIssues

Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:32
No that’s #horushaddaddyissues
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Yea, that'd be Horus.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:32

abbaddonwasafailure

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Every primarch had daddy issues to a greater or lesser extent
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Failbaddon
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Not russ.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Nope
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:32
Russ challenged daddy to a drinking contest.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 19:32
the sad fact is only robute and russ were stable because of decent adoptive parents
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 19:32

RussIsTheKingOfAllAwesome

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:33
Then a fist fight
which he promptly lost.
which makes sense, you don't challenge dad to a drinking game then a barfight.
He will kick you six ways from sunday
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 19 2018 19:33

atleastlittlehorusknewhowtolead

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 19:40
@Crowbar90 let me know when you're done.
I'll push out a release to these hungry fish people.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 20:10
over/under on Appspot taking a crap?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 20:16
I'd lay even odds
If I were a bettin' man (which I'm not)
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 20:40
you know how i got shadespire
and was gonna play khorne
well, i just rolled my fecking chair over the khorne sprue....
so now i need to buy the models again
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 20:41
That sucks. Ugh.
James
@skonk
Mar 19 2018 20:43
yup
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 20:50
anyone want to buy a magnetized and primed legion for $750? :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 20:51
I'll give you 50 dollars.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 20:51
that wouldn't even cover the stormeagle :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 20:51
You got a receipt?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 20:51
and that value is pretty much just the ebay plastic cost + magnets + resin cost
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 19 2018 20:52
Then in Philadelphia it's worth 50 dollars.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 20:55
wish me luck, there is a local heresy guy that might be interested in them
mostly for the stormeagle I'm guessing
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 21:04
If the damned Stormeagle is already assembled that alone is worth $750
Because that model belongs on my FUCK THIS MODEL list
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 21:05
yes
I have two
keeping one for my deathwatch
and it even has: pinned landing gear that will take the weight
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 21:05
I have PTSD from putting that shit together
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 21:08
my hard bargain: if you want the eagle you need to take some of the infantry. if you want both, gotta take the whole lot
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:04
@FarseerVeraenthis since I know you wanted pics:
Finally got the customs issue with it sorted (It was mislabeled
going to need to make a custom "quad gun" and "icarus lascannon"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:10
What's that?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:11
Micro Art studios Wraithstone defence line
its a CWE aegis-alike
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:12
Right on
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:12
meant to stand in for one
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:12
If I wanted one, I would want it to look like the "sonar fence" from Lost
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:12
just pylons?
not familiar with that series/thing
because I don't watch much tv
tekton
@tekton
Mar 19 2018 22:15
Did someone say pylons? I require additional ones.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:18
You've already got that though
IA4 void fence
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:24
Hrm
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:25
sorry "Containment Fence"
not sure if it made it into the 8th ed rules, I'll go look
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:26
Sure but what are the models for it? :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:27
they're pretty old
but they were pylon-type fences with emitters
@CrusherJoe you could hunt down these from the ancient battle for mcragge
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 19 2018 22:29
I used to have the BfM set
Sadly, no longer
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 19 2018 22:32
I think what I might do
is get a vaul support weapon
and use the vibro-cannon as the base for a quad gun conversion
just chop the barrel and keep the support weapon as the "gun emplacement" for the aegis