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26th
Mar 2018
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 01:01

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (T'au Empire) ++

  • HQ +

Commander Farsight

Commander in XV8 Crisis battlesuit: 2x Flamer

Commander in XV8 Crisis battlesuit: 2x Fusion blaster

Commander in XV8 Crisis battlesuit: Plasma rifle, Shield generator

Commander in XV81 Crisis battlesuit: 2x Missile pod, Smart missile system

Commander in XV85 Enforcer battlesuit: Airbursting fragmentation projector, Cyclic ion blaster, Plasma rifle

Commander in XV85 Enforcer battlesuit: Flamer, Plasma rifle, Shield generator

Commander in XV86 Coldstar Battlesuit: High-output burst cannon, Missile pod

Shas'o R'alai: Drone controller
2x Blacklight Marker Drone: 2x Markerlight

Shas'o R'myr

  • Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Fusion blaster, Ion accelerator

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy burst cannon

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Cyclic ion blaster, Flamer
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Cyclic ion blaster, Flamer
Crisis Shas'vre: 2x Cyclic ion blaster, Flamer

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer
Crisis Shas'vre: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer
Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer
Crisis Shas'vre: 2x Burst cannon, Flamer

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator
Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator
Crisis Shas'vre: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator
Crisis Shas'ui: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator
Crisis Shas'vre: Fusion blaster, Plasma rifle, Shield generator

XV9 Hazard Support Team
XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: 2x Fusion cascade
XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: 2x Fusion cascade

XV9 Hazard Support Team
XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: 2x Phased ion gun
XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: 2x Phased ion gun
XV9 Hazard Battlesuit: 2x Phased ion gun

  • Heavy Support +

XV107 R'varna Battlesuit: Multi-tracker

XV107 R'varna Battlesuit: Multi-tracker

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle
Broadside Shas'vre: 2x Smart missile system, Heavy rail rifle

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system
Broadside Shas'ui: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system
Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system

XV88 Broadside Battlesuits
Broadside Shas'vre: 2x High-yield missile pod, 2x Smart missile system

Ugh
~5200 pts, only 8/9/10 chassis
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 01:46
@alphalas Wowza that's some crazy batshit army, <3 it
You might want to know that I've finally converted ~99% of T'au Abilities from Rules to Profiles, so that they now show up in View nicely, just under the unit. I've used my prototyped tool https://github.com/WarHub/Rule2ProfileTool I'm rather proud, and also it's a step in the direction of GodMode (our open-source Data Editor)
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tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 03:44
I go back and forth on that...since we use printed lists it's actually more difficult when it's profiles sometimes as odd as that sounds
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 03:50
@amis92 that’s just my battlesuits; still gotta add in all my armor, infantry, and kroot lol
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 04:18
firesight marksman and sniper drones are sold out again...not surprising as they're the new secret sauce to getting cp for the most cp thirsty army...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 26 2018 04:53
I counter that Guard are the most CP necessary army...I go through CP like a madman
But I digress
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 05:31
They were, and until today I would have agreed. But there's about 6cp/turn that you're wanting to do with Tau to just keep up much less get ahead. Guard also have a couple ways to get CP back ;) Tau do now, too, and that feels very on purpose due to how much they need it. They feel closer to the same army than I feel they should...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 09:31

@tekton

firesight marksman and sniper drones are sold out again...not surprising as they're the new secret sauce to getting cp for the most cp thirsty army...

How's that secret sauce for CP? What can you build from them?

CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 26 2018 10:13
i was thinking more of taking pathfinders with ion rifles, there not as cheap as marksmen but they kick out a fair amount of firepower for their cost
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 10:23
need help guys, need to hand out some pain to a friend of mine. . I'm taking Raven Guard vs his .. I have no idea ! 1500 pts, I'm currently thinking - Shrike + Lt + 7 claw vets and 3 TH/SS ... Contemptor dread, scouts and tacs , 10 man dev squad with Las and heavy bolters (possibly two squads) ... I have no vehicle models, so just boys and an ironclad Mortis Las contemptor ... anything else I can try ?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 10:36

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [74 PL, 1290pts] ++

  • HQ [13 PL, 231pts] +

Kayvaan Shrike [8 PL, 150pts]

Lieutenants [5 PL, 81pts]
. Lieutenant [5 PL, 81pts]: Chainsword, Jump Pack [1 PL, 18pts], Master-crafted boltgun [3pts], Teeth of Terra

  • Troops [17 PL, 249pts] +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 90pts]: 5x Camo cloak [15pts]
. Scout Sergeant [15pts]: Combat knife, Sniper rifle [4pts]
. 4x Scout w/Sniper Rifle [60pts]: 4x Sniper rifle [16pts]

Scout Squad [6 PL, 65pts]
. Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Boltgun, Combat knife
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun [33pts]
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon [21pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 94pts]
. 3x Space Marine [39pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [17pts]: Boltgun, Power maul [4pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [38pts]: Missile launcher [25pts]

  • Elites [16 PL, 341pts] +

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 341pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 20pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [37pts]: Storm shield [5pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [37pts]: Storm shield [5pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [37pts]: Storm shield [5pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Space Marine Veteran [28pts]: 2x Lightning Claw [12pts]
. Veteran Sergeant [42pts]: Relic blade [21pts], Storm shield [5pts]

  • Fast Attack [6 PL, 89pts] +

Assault Squad [6 PL, 89pts]: Jump Pack [1 PL, 15pts]
. 4x Space Marine [52pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [22pts]: Bolt pistol, Combat shield [4pts], Power axe [5pts]

  • Heavy Support [22 PL, 380pts] +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 206pts]
. Two twin lascannons [100pts]: 2x Twin lascannon [100pts]

Devastator Squad [11 PL, 190pts]: Armorium Cherub [5pts]
. 5x Space Marine [65pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [13pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [38pts]: Lascannon [25pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]

Devastator Squad [11 PL, 190pts]: Armorium Cherub [5pts]
. 5x Space Marine [65pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant [13pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [38pts]: Lascannon [25pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon [23pts]: Heavy bolter [10pts]

++ Total: [83 PL, 1496pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 26 2018 10:55
I call @WindstormSCR to answer your questions. However, bear in mind that he is currently the owner of a colossal, fully customised Raven Guard army, that he wants to sell because they're not working for him...
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 10:57
@FarseerVeraenthis yeah I heard, I'm not selling but I'm of a similar mindset .. but I'm not playing my Necrons til the book arrives next week .. so the boys in black are coming off the shelf for a day. ... just wondered if there was a filthy trick I missed
I wanted them to be a fully functional Dropship assault army in this edition, but I'm not painting them all red and drinking blood ...
so, hence I have added a load of shooting
missing my captain for re-rolls though :(
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 26 2018 11:12
Obviously you're a few points short, what else have you got??
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 11:28
1496pt ... missing 4 points unless you'd say for me to drop something ... the only thing I have outside of this list are Scouts, Tacs, assault squads .. more VVets chaplain and a captain in termy armour .. oh and the ironclad
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 26 2018 12:07
Oh, I can't read... Top of the list says one points total, the bottom a different one! Do you have any idea at all what your opponent will bring?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 12:26
lol .... no .. I was trying to think about it before posting here cause I know it would help ... he has Orks, Tau, Renegades, Chaos (Black Legion marines), Nids, GSC, Daemons (all the flavours of daemon prince but mostly Nurgle) and probably more ... I honestly could not take a guess ... which is nice .. means I need a well rounded list
yeah the top of list has the SM stuff .. and the bottom total includes the FW mortis dread
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:29
Hey, quick question. What to do with Abilities that have been updated in Codex, but are also used in Imperial Armour units?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 12:31
Ability (Unit)
I do it all the time for Necrons My Will be Done
since each named guy has a slightly different wording
If you don't name it different it won't show on roster view.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:39
Well, I do that too, but also sometimes I just "merge" wordings making them universal when the only difference is unit's name included in the rule. Welp. Hoped for a better solution. And there's a lot of common abilities that I've had shared with FW units. And so they've been auto-updated without me noticing (well, updated by me during Codex update), and I'm not really keen on re-writing those IAI abilities back. :/
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 12:40
Unfortunately not :/
I've learned to be cautious with shared profiles for that reason
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:40
Maybe no-one notices :o
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 12:41
probably not, who uses FW crap anyway
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:41
Also, Fires of Cyraxus is soon-ish I think
Well, Y'vahra is nice I heard ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 12:41
Is that the new HH book?
That will hopefully have Ulator rules for 8th?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:44
No, Imperial Armour: Fires of Cyraxus will be T'au vs AdMech (possibly Questoris too?)
Are Gun Drones from a destroyed vehicle destroyed automatically, or do they "disembark" automatically?
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 26 2018 12:53
they count as embarked, so they would disembark as normal (i think)
in 7th they had a rule that said if they were attached when the vehicle was destoyed they too would be destroyed, but afaict theres no such rule in 8th
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 12:55
Yeah, that's what was confusing me, probably.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 13:01
Detach: Both Gun Drones can detach at the start of your
Movement phase by disembarking as if from a transport.
From that point onwards, they are treated as a separate
unit. They cannot reattach during the battle.
They disembark
which means they are embarked.
So barring an explicit rule, they would be treated as any other emergency disembarking model
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 26 2018 13:02
a more relevent quote would be "When this model is set up, any accompanying Gun Drones are attached, and are treated as being embarked (though they do not count towards the total number of models embarked). Whilst the Drones remain attached, this model is considered to be equipped with their weapons in addition to its own."
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 13:02
Further: When this model is set up, any
accompanying Gun Drones are attached, and are treated
as being embarked
yea
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 26 2018 13:03
although i coppied that off battlescribe ^^
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 13:04
;) Pretty sure I copied correctly
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 13:14
@sk_Father_Price_twitter disregard vanguards, acquire company vets with plasma
lascannon devs with two extra ablative bodies per squad, single rhino or DP with a capt and as many plasma vets as can be stuffed in with him
deredeo or mortis dread
basically become an unfluffy castling gunline
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:17
@WindstormSCR thanks man ... build the RG gunline with Raven Guard, rather than Roboutte Guilliman
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 13:17
I can't stand that style with what were supposed to be deployment-fuckery sneaky marines, so I've given up on them
if you want to buy the rest of my RG legion there is a good deal to be had :P
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:19
I'm in the UK ... and also skint ... otherwise I'd be on it like a tramp on chips
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:28
all of my RG are second hand .. stripped and re-painted rescue jobs ...
I really liked that my marines are fluffy in that respect that they picked up all sorts of stuff and all sorts of mismatched post heresy re-building stylee
I just pretend the last 10,000 years hasn't improved our lot
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 13:33
While my set is magnetized mk IVs and some non-mag mark IIIs, with FW shoulderpads and stuff
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:35
sexy
hope you get a good deal mate
so, we taking bets on the FAQ drop date? now Adepticon is done and gone
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 13:38
3/31
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:38
bearing in mind that this weekend is a national holiday Friday to Monday (Inclusive)
in the UK
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 13:39
perfect time to put out a faq for people to play games
Also - it's not hard to time page releases, in the office or no
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 13:39
holidays have never stopped gw from doing stuff before
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 13:41
yeah I suppose, this is the rules guys ... they've 'phoned in' projects most of the time anyways
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 13:45
@amis92 the firesight/sniper drones make filling out a brigade super cheap, with kroot hounds in fast attack the whole thing is on guard level of cheap for 9CP
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 26 2018 13:48
ahhh, thats makes more sence, i wanted to convert up some firewarriors with sniper rifles and use the tank crew binoculars to make a spotter but never saw a use for them, I might go ahead with it now ^^
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 13:52
IDK, 1000pts for the cheapest 9CP?
Looks like filling a Battalion 3x is cheaper.
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 13:55
it's about 621pts for a 9CP brigade for Tau
you can take that and then two more battalions to get more CP and then fill out other slots you want- or another batallion and a stormsurge
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 13:58
621 tax for a questionably useless brigade though.
You'd get more use out of 3 batallion's I think with fireblades and strike gunlines.
You'd give up the Stormsurge though
That's odd Amis
your commit didn't post to 1.1.28
1.1.27 and 1.1.28 are identicle
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:01
Oh shite, forgot to do pull request xD Thanks!
:poop:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:02
Haha np - was wondering why you released nothing lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 14:02
Are my guard fixes live?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:02
si.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 14:02
Bueno
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:02
Should've gone live with my release yesterday for the Armigers
I lie, they went live with amis's 1.1.27 release.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 14:03
Didn’t I do that after your release though?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:03
Yep
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 14:03
Kk
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:03
But yes, they went live 12 hours ago
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 14:05
See @amis92 this is (probably the only good reason) why I commit directly to master :p
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:07
:D
All right, situation is under control, everything is as expected, nothing happened :sparkles:
amis92 @amis92 hides the complete failure of eariler Abilities rewrite behind his back
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:08
Nothing at all happened.
Caliban is intact
No Chaos here.
amis92 @amis92 hopes no-one except him noticed that Abilities were for a mere 12hrs live as Weapon profiles with text in Range characteristic
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:09
Yup. Exactly that.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:09
mere 12 hours.
Sweet Summer Child
Appspot is about to have a heart attack for another 12.
Full 24 hours of mistakes my friend!
amis92 @amis92 disappears in shadows thanks to XV25 Stealth technology
SAY WHAT NOW!!
and 1CP to have 3 warlord traits as well,
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:34
LOL ... softcap on tournament detachments be damned lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 26 2018 14:35
So you'll get what... 11CP from taking 3 Patrols?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:35
let's see them try and say commander spam is not allowed but Elves spread across the planet is
11CP for 6 patrols
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 26 2018 14:36
no, 10 for 3 patrols. 3 base, 1 per patrol and +4 from the rule
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:36
a patrol doesn't give CP ?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 26 2018 14:36
ok, my brain has clearly stopped working
that's what you get for trying to troubleshoot Azure AD authentication for an hour
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:37
it's ok .. I had to check as well lol
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 14:46
@Kohato it's not a useless Tau brigade is the weird and fun part; that brigade has three fireblades and a bunch of strike and/or breacher (with strategems they're quite useful) MSU squades. The sniper drones are also not a horrible tax for the CP that one gets.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:48
Recently I've "discovered" that when you have a lot of MSU Fire Warriors, it may even be worth it to give Markerlights to Shas'uis. Some will hit. 18pts for 6 chances is rather sensible.
tekton
@tekton
Mar 26 2018 14:49
Yup. and don't be afraid to use the strategem to get some extra markerlights
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:49
I'm not, I'm rather always concerned on which shot to use it.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:50
does a shot "eat" a markerlight now then ?
never really played tau
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:50
no
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:51
Oh, no. I meant, on which unit being markerlighted to increase the amount of counters through the stratagem
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:51
they're passive buffs that are not as strong but last a little while
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 14:51
aaah I see, target priority issues for @amis92
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:54

Sure as hell. On Saturday I've played an interesting army of Tyranids at 2k, all Carnifexes, 20x Genestealres w/Broodlord, Exocrine (the artillery one, maybe other name), Biovores and Hive Guard.

I've been wiped clean off the table at turn 5, and the artillery was simply out of my reach with these ~7 Carnifexes running straight at me. Brutal. But also many mistakes on my part.

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:54
@/all can I get a beer. I'm going to need one
for that warlord validation
:cripes:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:55
:beers: <- two for you. Which catalogue?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:55
I have drukhari
which means making a system to allow Alliance of Agony to work
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 26 2018 14:55
Ooooh that. Yeah, :beers: :beers: :beers: for you
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:56
I already have a couple ideas, but they won't be pretty on the backend
IF (archon as warlord && stratagem selected ) > show (separate WLT SSEG)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:57
Goodgood DE
*Good god
I can't wait for the ITC arguments
Why do you purposly handicap DE!!!!!?
6 Detachment master race.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:58
they're basically forcing ITC to make an exception for Drukhari
interesting thought:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:58
They're forcing every tournamentsystem to do so.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:58
what if they move inquisitorial acolytes to troops, and do the same thing with =][= ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:58
I don't know of a single one that doesn't use 3 detachments
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 14:59
that would be a pretty rad idea to save inquisition
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 14:59
Not sure if I'm a fan of that much CP for basically free, but 3 WT will be pretty cool
Also - @WindstormSCR
The validation should be ... kind of simple
2nd Warlord box with all the traits selectable
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:00
yeah, it looked harder than it is
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 15:00
Hide on Succubus and Haemunculous
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:00
logic example above
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 15:00
Unless 1 warlord is selected in archo
Oh derp
Just repeated what you said.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:01
I might be adding some "Corsairs" to my craftworlds after DE release
aka wyches and kabalites in venoms
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 15:04
Bring on this new GW Army builder App ... I want to watch my ipad melt in my hands as it does binary gymnastics to compute Dark Eldar
:beers: for @WindstormSCR
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:05
the thing is
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 15:05
If it's like Azyr, it won't do shit
It'll just let you take it
validation be damned
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 26 2018 15:06
Yeah, Azyr doesn't do a whole lot of validation.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:06
with the way BS on ipad handles loading multiple and nested forces, linecount will actually be something of a concern for drukhari
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 15:07
No different than phone. ios is ios.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 15:07
everytime you use that word .... 'Jonny Ball' playing a Trumpet .. "Vali dayshuuun ... Thass what yoo neeed!"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:07
that's what I mean
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 15:07
ask your parents
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:07
it loads the file for each force I think
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 26 2018 15:07
I met him once, when I was but a wee lad.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 15:09
balls ... it was Roy Castle did the Record breakers thing .. not Johnny Ball
curse my addled memory
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 15:15
/me giggles to himself as he makes soft boiled eggs watching you lot try to figure tricksey eldar nonsense out
God damnit why you no work on iOS /me
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 15:15
eh, I like the patrols thing
if venoms and raiders are actually 6/11 transport cap this makes even more sense
since each patrol of the 3 or 6 would be 1 hq and a troop in a raider or venom
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 15:19
In other news I guess this means Ynarri is fully dead
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 26 2018 15:20
I Like the idea too ... but the game .. at least at tournament level .. is devolving into a whole lot of sub-faction rulings and exceptions .. no commander spam for tau, only 3 detachments unless Space Elves .... No x unless y ... it's going to be a mess
just a series of kneejerk reactions to the vocal minority in the game that only applies to "The other guys"
and yes.. the sky is indeed falling ! :)
on that note .. I have a 90 minute commute to go get my butt kicked ... see y'all on the otherside
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 15:31
While i'm happy to have gotten forgebane at a discount
I'm disappointed FLG hasn't shipped it yet
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 16:26
i picked up second forgebane today
and had a game with my custodes + 2 warglaives
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:02
Hey James
Mind screencapping the whole of the rules/point sheet for forgebane?
I haven't seen a full pdf of those yet and Mine hasn't even shipped yet :(
Not the forgebane game rules, don't care about those ;p
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:04
yeh can do
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:05
I appreciate ya
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:07
2018-03-26 18.07.14.jpg
this one?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:08
Yessir! And could you tell me the PL on cryptek?
I'm assuming it dropped to 5 per codex
but ... chronometron is old price
so fuck if I know
Er staff of light I mean
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:08
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:09
Of course not, why would it have dropped.
sigh You sexy. Ty
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:09
:)
keep in mind that forgebane will have gone off for print way before the codex was done
logistically it's much more complicated to create a box like this than it would be a simple codex
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:10
And the cloak is 10
vs codex 5 -.-
Yea I know, but I'd not seen wargear prices in any of the leaks
so I was hoping it matched codex
when I did my release yesterday
But why make it wasy
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:10
:)
potentially i could have the necron codex in my hands on wednesday
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:11
That would help, I hope to have it done by then in my local files - so all that we'll need is a last minute point/profile check.
Also - did anyone catch the odd wording on Technomancer for the cryptek?
The bonus is granted to enemy DYNASTY units too, they just can't make use of it on your turn.
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:16
id not noticed
but yeh you're right
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:18
not that it matters, just an interesting wording choice. It used to say friendly dynasty
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:18
is it the same in the actual codex?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:19
yea
codex and forgebane has new wording
index has old that says friendly dynasty
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 17:22
ah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 17:27
so necron civil wars are messy then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:34
So
I decided I hate having money
2 Boxes of SW: Legion ... an ATST and a speeder :(
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OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:35
Well... there goes the Neighborhood. Aren't they a little short to be stormtroopers?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:36
Compared to that ATST? Yep
That thing is much larger than I expected
It's just about the size of an IK
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:38
The ATPT is interesting. Kinda like a sentinel, but less enclosed.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:41
It's neat. The quality of the bits is nice too. Mix between GW plastic and FW Resin
also - pre-clipped.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:44
Whoah .... pre-clipped ... what kind of insanity is this?
That's ... whispers heresy ....
I mean ... how will one create more Spruecrons?
If there is ... no ... sprue ...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:51
THERE IS NO SPRUE!!!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:52
I KNOW! RIGHT?!?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:52
It's ... rather difficult to magnetize these though
the weapon bits are tiny or in rather awkward places.
So ... add them all and say they're activated or deactivated.
Also ... resin, so my fingers are encased in superglue at the moment
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:53
So, it's a quasi-fine-cast?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:53
No, definately not finecast.
It's a mix between sytrene plastic (GW Plastic) and FW Resin
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Mar 26 2018 17:54
Hmmm. Interesting.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 17:55
Reminds me a lot of recent fw resin, that you see on blockier models.
You treat it the same too. Warm water to re-warp things
wash before priming
etc
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 18:03
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Tau were rebels in a galaxy long long ago
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:04
2018-03-26 19.03.12.jpg
This is where im at so far with my knights
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 18:04
I'm a fan of the gold.
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:04
need to figure out which panels to go red with
2018-03-26 19.03.24.jpg
supposed to match my custodes like
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 18:18
Interior of the pauldrons then
since that's where the custodes are
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:18
yeh
at the mo the ones ive done just have 1 shoulder red
not 100% sure if ill stick with that or do both sides
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:35
the lychguard and deathmarks troops/elites thing is in the release version of the codex
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 18:39
Sigh
They're staying elites until we get a FAQ then
If people bitch I will point out that RAW: Neither troop or elite version is valid.
As points are for a non existant datasheet.
As great as it would be, lychguard troops would be bonkers.
2W 4++ with -3 rend weapons lol
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:41
:)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 18:41
Did you get a copy allready?
or just see it in a YT review
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:43
belloflostsouls stream
can ask em owt u want
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 18:44
Ah gotcha
Well good to know the mistake is there ... if that wasn't fixed, I doubt anything from that leak has changed at all
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 18:44
yeh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:09
"We're committed to making the latest edition of Warhammer 40,000 as awesome as ever, and so, we're delaying the March FAQ a just little bit so we can integrate our findings from AdeptiCon with your feedback – stay tuned for further announcements..."
Anything ... questionally abusive at adepticon?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 26 2018 20:10
FLYRANT SPAM OMG
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 20:10
Flyrant spam
7 flyrants in one list
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:10
But what errata would fix that :/
I guess if they limit 1 hive tyrant per detachment. Not sure how fluffy that is
Wasn't the GW team running a flyrant list?
Or was that some other nid list
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:11
Well, my friend owes me a set of custodes dice now :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 20:11
“In Matched Play, Hive tyrants are 0-1 per detachment"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 26 2018 20:12
Supposedly
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:12
@Kohato link to the posting?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 26 2018 20:12
They're going to do that with Custodes captains as well
Which is okay by me
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:12
they actually can't with custodes
I mean ...
Don't say can't.
They can.
Because fuck you, that's why.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:14
because otherwise you couldn't make a battalion
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:15
"0-2 per batallion, 0-3 per brigade, 0-1 in all other cases"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:15
they might limit the specific bike captain sheet
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:15
Though I guess that wouldn't really be diferent from now, would it.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:15
but not based on keyword
tbh
what I expect
is whats been suggested to them a bunch of times
"Ban the supreme command detachment for tournament matched play"
because NO ONE has a decent reason to ever use it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:17
What if I want to run a metric butload of fireblades?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:17
not even Craftworlds who are pretty much the most HQ-heavy army of the bunch becauseof warlock buffs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:18
I kind of doubt that will happen yet - that removes an entire detachment option. Needed or not. I'd expect a change like that in CA
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:18
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:19
You dare to mock Tzar Putin!?
Sorry, president
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 26 2018 20:20
:wave: guys, although those DE leaks make me want to pre-order the start collecting now, I remembered why we haven't killed Ynnarii yet - special rules that ynnarii don't get
switching to ynnari chat
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 20:20
That’s why I asked if this is what kills Ynarri finally lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:21
Haha not quite, I have no idea what they will do with Ynarri, maybe give them a bunch of shit in CA
they don't really warrent a codex
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 20:29
what they need to do is stop fucking with peoples lists
if everytime some butthurt idiots moan, they make sweeping changes everyone is eventually going to just fuck off to some other game
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 20:30
@skonk I think this is more of a GW is butthurt that people are abusing their rules in ways they don’t see fit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:30
be prepared for aeldari tears when the DE/March update arrives
we're going to break all existing lists
well, probably most
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 26 2018 20:42
And @alphalas we were just discussing that chances are the Ynnarii CAT will be reduced to the three dudes a we'll put a "in force" switch on the unit rules themselves so they show/hide appropriately
That will ruin ALL ynnari lists
But we'll wait until DE drops and windstorm flourishes his magic wand
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:44
you mean casts the runes, I do play craftworlds after all!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:45
There may be an easy way to do that Simon. On the units not allowed in a Ynnarii Detachment: Hide if Instance of "Faction: Ynnarii" in force
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:45
yep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:45
Minimal line count, hides them as soon as a ynnarii unit is added.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:45
that's the plan
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 20:46
nice
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 20:46
thing is a bunch of rules also change or disappear, thankfully they're mostly top-level rules
so just hiding the SSE Should do the job
I'm going to work on it a bit tonight
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 23:06
Anyone in the UK want 1600+ RRP's worth of Tau for 400 quid? :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:13
I wish
James
@skonk
Mar 26 2018 23:16
:)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:41
Welp
I just discovered that there is a recaster that can do the vampire raider
RIP my budget and the Sylvaneth army I was planning
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:43
I'm happy my tree people army is pretty much done
Could probably use more dryads, but ... meh
I have 4 treelords, that's all I really need :p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:43
got any advice for them?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:43
Drycha
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:44
I love me my magic so I was going to go gnarlroot
as a base
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:44
Drycha hits like a truck covered in bees and aids.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:44
ah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:44
And not her punches.
She pumps out SO MANY mortal wounds
Gnarlroot w/ farseer is a common build.
Lets durthu re-roll things.
(It's what I have)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:46
loremaster?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:46
i’m painting 50 dryads, 4 treemen, 4 branchwyches, a branch wraith, 9 kurnoth, and drycha for a commission
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:46
I was actually going to use sisters of the thorn since I want to mix in wanderers
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:47
yeah, figured you meant the loremaster
I still have mine because of silver tower
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:48
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:48
I'll just change his paint slightly, and get an archmage on dragon again
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:48
Yea, farseer, not loremaster
This is my normal list without loremaster.
Er, loremaster not farseer
Before GHB2017 you could fit loremaster in, now you have to drop drycha or a hunters group for it.
that was a list I was toying with
since from everything I can find, the ORDER WIZARD in gnarlroot doesn't count for allies points, since its a mixed battalion
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:50
Correct, it would not be allies.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:50
so archmage, loremaster or sisters of the thorn, then whatever 400pts of wanderers I want to fit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:51
You could be a cool kid and run the twins
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:51
do they even have matched points?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:51
aw nevermind
they're tree elves, not wanderers
Also 420 :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:51
are they a wizard?
:D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:51
they are not
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:51
RIP
you know who is a wizard?
Morathi
lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:52
lmao
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:52
Drycha/Morathi/Durthu
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:52
The least fluffiest thing ever.
but would be funny
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:52
that’s evil
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:53
Thanks though, I now have a reason to get morathi.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:53
this comming from the seraphon player
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:53
I'll put a tree on her base or something.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:53
that’s evil lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:53
It really really is.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:53
….wtf?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:54
So, technically.
You can fit Morathi and alleriell
in a gnarlroot
...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 26 2018 23:54
so apparently if you have a earlier then late 11 imac it only supports win7 bootcamp
god damnit apple
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 26 2018 23:57
But yes, gnarlroot is the way to go. Durthu, Drycha, or Alleriell + some hunters will lead you to victory.
Or go mean and add morathi.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 26 2018 23:58
I just like the magic and the freedom to take Eldritch council stuff
will probably use some dryad parts to make the dragon into a forest dragon