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29th
Mar 2018
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 00:08
Also mother of god why are piranhas so frustrating to build?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 29 2018 00:44
I promise they aren't worse than a Storm Eagle LOL
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 00:46
Probably not
However it’s literally 22 pieces without the pilots, fully plastic
IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT HARD TO ASSEMBLE
I had to use 5 big rubber bands on the fucker
It’s smaller then my hand!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 29 2018 00:49
Yeah well you didn't use any clamps or heat guns, didya?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 00:59
My point is I shouldn’t have to on plastic. Resin sure. Plastic? No
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 01:29
if its the really old as sin pirahna, I'd imagine the mould is quite worn out by now
I know the redid the terminator one about 5 years ago which is why they still haven't replaced the indomitus kits
and they just recut it instead of making a new kit
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 01:30
Idk tbh - it’s the one from the pathfinder/piranha/ethereal box
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 06:25
Yeah, it's definitely still the same, believe me. I've got like 6 of them, bought across 10 years. Each and every one was a pain in the ass. I think only Wave Serpent has a shot at being worse to assemble (especially the "fitting" part)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 07:11
did @kohata push Necrons out live last night ? I'd happily test it out but I'm not technical in any way enough to look at it on git etc.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 07:14
Nope, no release yet. We prolly won't do that until late Friday/early Saturday.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 07:14
ok, how do I real quick get it onto my droid app ?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 07:23
I think if you download https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/raw/Necrons-Codex/Necrons.cat and put it into correct folder (or import in BS from storage?) it should work
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 07:24
just halfway through trying that now
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 07:49
ok, just watched Jon's Github Tutorial .. looks simple but can only do it on my windows machine at home :unamused:
something to do on bank holiday night i guess :)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 07:50
Nah. Pretty sure you can do that from phone directly.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 07:51
it's okay ... I should really be working anyways .. last day of the month and I need less distractions
probably for the best
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 07:58
After you open the link, click save/download to have it locally. Then using some File Manager/My Files/what-have-you move the file from /Downloads to /Android/data/net.battlescribe.mobile.rostereditor/files/data/Warhammer 40,000
Work is boring, c'mon. You know what you want to do ;)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 08:00
However, don't spend your entire work day updating BS files. That is bad and may result in potential issues at your annual review...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 08:02
@amis92 funny, I found the wave serpent to be just fine when I built three
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 08:45
Maybe I'm poor at assembling, but I think it's an old kit where many parts don't 'fit' perfectly, leaving gaps, and you wondering if it should be 1mm to left or to the right. Devilfish chassis suffers similar problems, adding some of it's unique own - the side panels leave a gaping hole when assembled to fit on the back. Well, old kits are old, what you gonna do.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Mar 29 2018 08:57
in contrast, i got a pirana from china, came in about 3 parts (minus the crew) and was a dream to put toghether
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 11:41
Yea for droid you can manually download it. Just replace your existing file. Rev should be v22
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:06
its no biggy, I installed myfiles and DL'ed V22 cat file .. copied it into the right folder and changed the name on it to .catz from .cat... loaded BS and it threw an error and deleted the necrons cat
i'll have a play on PC tonight
want to install github desktop and learn a little bit (Dangerous I know)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:08
chanting one of us. one of us. one of us.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 12:09
@sk_Father_Price_twitter don't change extension by hand. BS handles both, but the files are different (the .catz file is a zipped .cat file). Just leave it be .cat.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:11
WOOT ... in business !
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 12:18
Always learning is the best kind of learning :)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:19
so Tomb blades wargear choice is called "Auxilliary choice" .. is that on purpose ?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:20
is it a group of different wargear options?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:20
I could name it Wargear instead
I named it that back in the 8th conversion, who knows why
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:21
away from the books .. but I clicked on it just to see what was in there :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:21
Nebuloscope and shadowloom choice
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:21
either works .. I dunno if the general convention is "Wargear"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:21
for a fleeting moment i thought that was for Auxiliary Support
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:21
I mean, it is wargear. Not sure why I chose Auxilliary
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:22
but idiots like me didn't know what it was lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:22
I'll change that to Wargear Options, like the Cryptek
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:24
I see why you did it ... they aren't listed under "Wargear" after the data sheets
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:26
It is
"Other Wargear" for po ints.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:26
aaah yeah so it is
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:26
Yea, who knows. I've marked it as an open issue on my tracker. I'll fix it tonight.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:26
really liking how easy it is so far mate, working backwards from heavy support atm.
did HQ and tried to take ALL the WL traits and everything is saying "NO! - idiot, you cannot !" in the correct places
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:27
But, you can go to No Force Org
and load a table of all of them
If you wanted to roll at the table
rather than select on BS
Transcendent C'tan is the only one that is slightly wonky, but it's an effective compromise I think. Allows 1 Fractured Personality unless you check the "Random" box ... which doesn't make it random but lets you take 2.
For people (like me) who during casual games will roll, then just go back and edit the choices.
Everything regarding traits and artefacts should be hiding in the correct spots as well based on dynastic code (or lack thereof, indicating you are not taking a mono-dynasty detachment)
Orks, Tau, and Necrons are the best. Our codexes are easy peasy compared to Aeldari Soup, Chaos Soup, and Imperium Soup
Oh, and if you didn't realize: Dynastic Heirlooms in No Force Org is the strategem for extra artefacts.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:33
I think I may need to call that out better, but that's the name of the Strategem.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:33
We have it easy in 40k. AoS Ally validation is a nightmare.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:33

aye, I did have to pick

Transcendent C'tan is the only one that is slightly wonky, but it's an effective compromise I think. Allows 1 Fractured Personality unless you check the "Random" box ... which doesn't make it random but lets you take 2.

I figured it out as I trialled taking ALL the powers ! cause 2 is never enough

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:34
I'm rather happy with transcendent. I love his model and will be happy to have reason to field him over NB now
And happy that NB was dropped in points to entice me to take him over transcendent at times.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:35

Oh, and if you didn't realize: Dynastic Heirlooms in No Force Org is the strategem for extra artefacts.

Yup, easy ... I presume it's a BS thing though that if you add all those extra rules that they stay in the roster you are building and don't throw errors ?

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:35
What do you mean?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:35
yeah but I can't afford the plastic box he comes in !
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:35
Yes you can. You get a free Obelesk out of it!
or a T-Vault if you magentize the c'tan
by magentize, I mean turn him red.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:36

What do you mean?

so add in say the dynastic WL traits ... take one from the list now available ... then remove the "no force org" line and it leaves the choices

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:37
It shouldn't.
It should tell you hey asshole, drop the extra relic.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:37
relic yes ...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:37
If you're talking about the "All Warlord Traits" that has no conditionals on it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:37
i know its a minor issue, since necrons cant ally, but using the stratagem without selecting a warlord doesnt unhide the artefacts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:37
that's just a list.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:37
WL Traits no
same for add all C'tan powers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:38
It shouldn't Gen - you can't take Necron Relics unless your Warlord is a Necron
Ah, at the moment those aren't tied to conditionals
They're simply a list
so someone can roll on the table at the tableside.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:38
gotcha ..
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:38
if i have a necron detachment, i have access to the stratagem, which allows me to purchase relics regardless of who my warlord is
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:38
Do you think they should be?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:39
You absolutely can take Necron relics using a strat without having a Necron warlord.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:39
"One Extra"
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:39
as @GenWilhelm has said
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:39
Wouldn't that imply One more than normal?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:39
no, not at all ,, I don't see a reason anyone would ever restrict themselves to only the index 3 C'tan powers lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:39
which I guess 1 more than 0 is 1 :/
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:39
they clarified it in the death guard faq
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:39
No, it was explicitly allowed in the Death Guard FAQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:39
Ahh ok
I'll add the conditional onto that then
easy enough
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:40
You have to play with increments.
It works in Chaos, TS and DG if you want to take a look
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 12:41
@Kohato T'au have [increments] too ( @WindstormSCR did ), IDK if what @Mad-Spy listed is as simple as Tau, might be the same.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:41
Yea, that's fine though. I'll take a look
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:42
@Kohato should canoptek cloak increase Cryptek movement characteristic
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:43
I haven't touched any profile modifying things. There's a couple I could do if you think it'd be better.
Shield Vanes for Tomb Blades, the Cloak for Cryptek
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:43
just as handy reminders .. especially that one
those 2
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:43
Yea, can do that.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:43
cause it's new
and if we're into Wishlist stuff ... possible to make the phase Shifter change the save from 3+ to 3+/4++ ?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:45
I didn't think we were putting inv saves into profiles? That's not how the datasheets are written.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:46
^
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:46
Normal Lord has retained his old Morale roll rather than re-roll 1's to wound
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:46
4++ doesn't exist in 8th ed profiles.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:46
ok cool ... wishlist is all :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:46
Vas is das!? I'm ashamed, I forgot a profile change!
That's one reason I didn't modify profiles for the move/armor save
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 12:46
I've had 3 Daemon ones reported this week and I released that ages ago!!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:47
yeah, some stuff just slips under the radar
(mostly slaanesh stuff)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:48
Wait, Price, regarding the "All" Warlord traits
Are you saying selecting that revealed things it shouldn't have?
There should be 0 conditionals on it. You shouldn't be able to do anything to it or with it
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:49
one sec lemme test it again
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:49
If that is behaving like that i'll need to take a look at it
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:53
so, new roster ... select a HQ and he has options for 3 CA, 6 codex and the dynasty traits ... the "No Force Org" WL Traits (All) is just a list for info right ? in that case it's fine
ok I see ... add a Dynastic code and it reduces the WL options to the correct dynasty
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:54
Yep, correct.
WL Traits (ALL) Is just a list for people who follow rules to the letter
and roll for your trait on the tableside
IE: If you're printing out your list.
If you don't add a Dynastic Code, I assume you are taking a multiple-dynasty detachment
in which case, validation is impossible
and it's an honor system
to pick the right trait for your warlord's dynasty
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:56
any chance it can have a tag (info) or (FYI) or (read the memo) ? just so it's not presumed to be limiting or interactive
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:56
Was the best compromise I could come up with since we discovered/realized that issue with Tau
Yea, I can add a tag to it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 12:56
Maybe "Reference"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:56
Yep
That was the plan in my noggin
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 12:57
It's a good word :+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:57
haha
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:57
sorry, you are just getting the idiots guide here from me :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:57
No worries, it's better than we'd get in Issues
If we think that adding 4++ would be benficial, I can add that - but since dataslates aren't written that way it may be confusing to 8th ed new players.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:58
oh god, i hadnt even thought of that particular headache. you could pick a warlord trait and an artefact from two different dynasties
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 12:58
Bingo Bango Gen.
You give up Dyanstic Codes (Chapter Tactics, Sept, etc)
But you could have a Sautekh Warlord Trait
and a Mephrit CCB with the volitic Staff
In which case, I can't validate that.
so ... Trust system!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 12:59
oh, you're ahead of me ...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 12:59
i meant on the same model.....
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:00
I just took a nihilakh Code and had a sautekh WL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:00
Oh, no you can't have that.
Since each model can only have 1 Dynasty
Or you mean BS wise.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:00
yup
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:00
yeah, what i mean is it isnt validated to deny that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:00
In which case, yes - if you don't pick Dynastic Codes, that is possible
I could validate against picking different dynasties on the same model
That would be ... dirty
I'll take a look though
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:01
yeah, not worth the effort imo
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:01
90% of players will be going mono dynasty per force
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:01
(read: nids is the same and i dont want to right now)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:01
With 8th there's so little reason to do multi-sub faction in a single detachment
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:01
pretty much, yeah
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:01
About invulnerables, I'm not sure they are included anywhere in repo.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:01
Since I could say, go Novokh in an Outrider and Sautek in a Batallion
and get all the benefits
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:02
i think it's only let me because I chose a WL and trait and THEN added in the "NFO" Dynasty codes ...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:02
yeah, it makes sense for some armies that are giving up faction benefits for other reasons - ie. soup
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:02
just really messing here and trying to get it to throw errors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:02
It shouldn't Price, If you add Dynastic Codes and choose a dynasty - it should hide all incorrect things. And if you have them chosen you should get an error saying it is not allowed because hidden
No, please carry on
Did you read my commit?
"Break my like i'm slaanesh"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:03
oh wait ... it's just thrown an error saying I can't have it cause it's hidden
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:03
:D
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:03
didn't at first though ..
might be my phone lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:03
Yea Gen, Soup armies may have reason to.
And i'm sorry to soup maintainers
lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:05
ok it only lets me do it if I follow this pattern ... choose a code ... pick a WL trait appropriate ... go back ... change the code ...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:05
So: Choose Sautekh, take Hyperlogical, then swap to Mephret
doesn't throw an error?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:06
nope .... not until I try and add another different warlord etc.
and it tries to validate everything and cries
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:06
That may be an instance of an old BS bug
we saw that with points not updating when incrementing based on model count
until you swapped choices and it refreshed
I'll take a look though
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:08
yeah, its a BS bug. doesnt validate hidden stuff until you make a change somewhere in the list
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:09
Oh, to answer a question from like 2am CT - yea this cat won't be pushed to master until friday night at midnight (haven't found out what time zone the digital codex releases in yet though)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:09
i think its midnight GMT
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:09
Oh perfect, then 6pm CT
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:10
but it might be BST now that daylight savings has started
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:10
or 7.
DST is over I think
er, started
fuck DST
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:10
^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:11
GMT-5 now
So 7pm friday i'll commit and release.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:19
@GenWilhelm @Kohato can you raise an issue and elaborate? (about that hidden stuff) https://github.com/BattleScribe/Release/issues
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:20
BattleScribe/Desktop-Alphas#154
Jon said he fixed it in the 2.0 release, I admit I hadn't seen it pop up again
Once I can verify on desktop as well i'll copy the issue over to the new repo
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:21
that's a very old bug that i havent seen since the alpha
sk_Father_Price_twitter @sk_Father_Price_twitter brake it gud!
sk_Father_Price_twitter @sk_Father_Price_twitter smash
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:23
Hey, that's what I asked for. Keep on breakin. Breaks and validation are the big ones I'd like to catch before release
Points would be nice, but end users will catch those quick enough
Not that there are any of course. Necrons are perfect beings.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:24
Not necessarily, at least if it benefits them. Haven't seen anyone raise the Velocity Tracker on Sky Ray (not paid for) issue.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:24
this one might be a wishlist again ... so I (correctly) add a Dynasty code and an appropro WL trait ... go to view the roster but all the troops and HQ in the same detach still say <Dynasty> not Novokh
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:24
That won't change :D Too much work
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:24
ok cool, just checkin
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:25
Hell, I don't think that even CAN change ...
Since we can't modify categories
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:25
yeah, we cant do categories by modifier. they have to be attached to entries, which would require a lot of user interaction
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:26
Yeah, which would result in each unit having an additional sub-entry of chosen subfaction.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:26
#2640 is where i'm tracking all of this btw if anyone finds bugs or whatnot while my american ass is sleeping.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 13:26
Let's pretend people are homo sapiens sapiens and can infer that themselves :D (dynasty/sept/craftworld etc.)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:27
I just assume they read their own codex.
... Or any codex.
and know what brackets mean.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:27
yeah, as long as you dont let them pick stuff from a different dynasty (ie. named characters), it should be fine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:28
Yea, that I still need to hide
I didn't get to that last night
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:28
and the brackets thing annoys me too. some people just seem to think every keyword should be in brackets
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:29
Really?
I wonder why
I only use <> for Dynasty
The rest is CAPS LOCK BECAUSE WE CAN'T BOLD THINGS
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:29
yeah, i've seen people say some thing like "my unit can <fly> so it..."
the alternate font is the official style, but all caps is close enough
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:31
Italics would work too :/
But yea, since I can't do any of that. ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:32
"Small caps" was the phrase i was looking for
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:33
Oh, in the books? Yea. It's like 2 font sizes smaller, bold, and all caps
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:34
Iᴍᴘᴇʀɪᴜᴍ
hmm, that didnt quite work
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:34
Haha. ImpeRIum
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:36
looks even better in bscribe
small caps.png
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:37
Fear the I[][][]RI[][] Company Commander!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:43
so here's todays news boys .. .I am officially OLD !
step-daughter just dropped my 4th grand child
for you non-brits dropped = gave birth to
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:44
I far prefer dropped.
I will use that for my new nephew in a couple months.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 13:45
;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 13:49
Huh gen
On Gitter mobile
That font looks perfect
But not on Gitter.im
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 13:54
the R and I still look odd on my mobile
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 14:01
yeah the R and I look slightly less bolded on iOS but same size, but dramatically smaller on the mac app for gitter
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this makes me happy that mechtau is back, but sad rail is dead
James
@skonk
Mar 29 2018 14:04
:)
i'll feel happier when i sell my Tau
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Mar 29 2018 14:05
Holy crap when I was reading yesterday it was "mechtau this" and "mechtau that" and I click in to catch up and it's still "mechtau this" and "mechtau that" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 14:05
because i’m an indecicive bitch lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 14:05
To be fair it just came to tau.
It’s been my necrons all morning.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 14:06
mechtau was bad in index
so the fact it’s good now is a big thing to me lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:22
@amis92 BattleScribe/Release#6
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:28
You know on heirlooms and things where "This replaces the users Chainsword" or replaces Staff of light etc.. is itpossible to hide the replaced gear in the roster viewer ? currently shows the original and the superseding item
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:29
We moved away from it
I had added all mine into the relevant selection lists, but we took a general decision not to.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:29
so you can see that the user has legit met the condition I guess
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:30
It has interesting implementation issues where you can replace multiple items with the same relic, as it can have different costs.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:31
yeah, that'd break it lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:31
It's just a modifier on the SE link, but it was decided not to do it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:32
nids tells the user they need to pick the correct weapon if they havent already, but i imagine its much more straight forward for them than other factions
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:34
I'm guessing on nids it's the default weapon replaced with no choices where an SM Lieutenant would need to buy a chainsword to replace with teeth of Terra for example (where I spotted this initially)
I was almost rolling an extra attack for that but stopped myself
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 14:35
anyone happen to have 2 spare breacher backpacks?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:36
all of them only have one of the weapons that can be replaced by a given relic
like one relic replaces a lashwhip or monstrous lashwhip, and no model has access to both
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:38
oh and the logic looks for both before throwing a loop
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:39
well its actually the weapon looking for the relic, but since the model is only linked to one or the other, it will only shout one error
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:40
and this is why I just build and paint plastic men ... I'll leave the clever stuff to the growdups !
in between breaking @Kohato 's toys :)
and tonight I will finish some terrain that something other than infantry can use to hide behind
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 14:45
And yes - You can't hide the item it replaces without hiding the SE, which then throws an error when it's selected because you can't have hidden things selected. I tried hiding just the profile but that doesn't translate through, so in the "Abilities" of the ones that replace things I have it noted that it replaces the item.
Also, the relic is hidden itself unless the proper pre-requisite item is selected.
IE: Voidreaper.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:46
again, nids does things differently to avoid obfuscation :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 14:46
nids is a special child.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 14:46
yay! \o/
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 14:47
the one in the corner eating paste
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 14:47
Necrons could be that simple I suppose ... In a way it does
I just do it with hiding.
There's no error if you don't have a staff of light.
You just don't see the relic to equip
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Mar 29 2018 14:47
^^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 14:47
so if you somehow do it, then it yells at you
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Mar 29 2018 15:22

again, nids does things differently to avoid obfuscation :D

I do that with T'au too. We have guideline no. 17 for not hiding stuff by default, but it only concerns root selections, so both ways are ok I guess.

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:24
Technically it's not hidden by default.
It's hidden by conditional.
Which is true on new roster load.
:p
Do you guys think this is sufficient? Or should I add a Rule to each that describes their intent
It'll load eventually .. but for now imgur ... lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:28
that's what i've done, just for clarity. the same profile also has the model requirements (eg. "CADIAN OFFICER only.")
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:29
Yea, the traits that are dynasty only say that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:30
oh, you were referring to the reference tables. sorry, i thought we were still on relics
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:31
Oh lol
keep up. Necrons are a fast moving race of slow moving skeleton robot zombies.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Mar 29 2018 15:32
:wave:
Wych preview is up
Looks nasty, but in a good way
S4 wyches anyone? Yes siree I'll take as many boxes as my marriage can afford...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:34
If she has a life insurance policy you could probably afford a lot.
And that's something DE would approve of too :p
Ooo. Just realized something that will piss some people off ...
FW Named HQs cannot be taken in any necron detachment that uses Dynastic codes.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:39
they can, but codes is all they get
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:39
How?
If they are taken the detachment is no longer mono-dynasty
which means it can't take codes
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:39
doesnt it say "if your chosen dynasty isnt listed, then pick one of your choice" or something like that?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:40
Ohh yea. Good point.
Carry On
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:41
but it only says that for codes iirc. so you dont get the stratagem, relic, or warlord trait
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:41
ughhh
Yea, you're right
I wonder how that is actually enforced for custom chapters and things
Do tournaments block you from using those strategems and relics?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:43
yes they do. someone got DQ'd from adepticon for taking a BA relic in a flesh tearers list
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:44
That's kind of sad in a game system that actively encourages you to be creative
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:45
i wonder if it would have been allowed if they werent using the FT named character
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:46
Though I suppose you can only really be knocked for painting points if you say your Flesh Tearers are actually BA
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:46
since you could just say they are BAs, rather than FTs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:46
and just painted to honor Flesh Tearers.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:46
pretty much, yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:47
Hmm alright, thanks. That'll be an explanation to keep in the back pocket
When an issue shows up asking why Toholk can take a mephrit warlord trait.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:48
space marines have snowflake rules, but everyone else follows that structure
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:48
Why? Because Maynarkh is a custom dynasty according to the only logic I can wrap my head around.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 15:55
Basically this entire cat is: Take a Dynastic Code, and things work perfectly.
Be a troublesome person and go multi-dynasty in a detachment and you can break pretty much every constraint.
But ... fuck me. You can't take Toholk and Imhotekh and still get a dyanstic code.
Because even if your custom Maynarkh dynasty took the Sautekh codes, Imhotekh is still Sautekh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 15:58
not in the same detachment, yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:06
Ok, so sautekh and Nihilakh characters are hidden if you take dynastic codes and have either maynark character in them. Successful.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 16:07
nice! :+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:07
Now, do I hide sautekh/nihilakh artifacts in that case too?
Since they are named characters and couldn't be explained away as an honor painting of the colors
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 16:08
yeah, they should
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:08
Shit, all the artefacts
sinec in that case they have no valid artefacts or WTs
other than the base
Alright.
Fuck these two characters
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 16:08
if the datasheet has a fixed dynasty that isnt a codex one, you either break codes or lose traits/strats/relics
there's no way to fluff around it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:09
Here's hoping that gets cleared up in next year's CA
Just from a convoluted standpoint. I mean, I understand it, but it's not pretty, even when not considering BS
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 16:10
yeah, i always took it to be "take one of the regiments/forge worlds/etc. and use their rules for your custom faction"
but RAW is quite different to that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:10
That's what I always assumed as well.
It's how it should be
especially with the entire attitude of your army is your creation
I could go completely ham and make a "Custom Dynasty" code, which is another SSEG that copies the codes but then hides all specific WTs and Relics ...
That might be the best/accurate way really
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 16:12
yeah. like we said earlier, if youre not using a datasheet with a fixed sub-faction, you can easily fluff around it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:12
Nvm, thinking wayyyy too much into it.
Keeping it at working around maynarkhs
I found something cleaner.
And better.
And future-proofing :)
Renamed it to Dynasty Choice, gave Maynarkh and entry and then gave them a choice of a Dynastic Code sinec they're technically a custom dynasty. If you choose Maynarkh, all dynasty specific traits and relics are hidden.
Adding a <Custom> one with the same SSEG entry that also hides everything.
And bam. Fully supported.
Fuck you 8th ed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:49
And it works. Fully supported and ready for easy editing/fixing once IA is updated.
James
@skonk
Mar 29 2018 16:57
:)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 16:57
@sk_Father_Price_twitter - Next version of necrons cat is up on the branch :) Same revision number so you'll have to overwrite your file.
You took James if you wanted to take a spin
James
@skonk
Mar 29 2018 16:57
yeh i'll have a bash
James
@skonk
Mar 29 2018 17:29
not had an indepth mess with it yet but so far it seems all good :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 17:30
whoop whoop :)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 17:31
Imma need more chocolate before settling to destroy your soul
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 17:46
does Nemesor Zandy need to pay for his staff of light ?
and Vargard his warscythe
nvm ... found the little note that says including gear ..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 17:49
Right-o, named get things for free
because they speshul
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 17:54
yup, points afaict are correct ... 9/10 gold star
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:04
something funky in the dynastic code ...
I selecet Maynarkh .. and then it comes up with more radio buttons to be able to select the other dynasty codes .
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:05
Yep
Because, technically, Maynarkh is a non-supported dynasty
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:05
oops
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:06
which means you select a dyanstic code of your choosing.
But, that also means you cannot take dynasty specific WT and relics.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:06
hang on lemme get my brain around it ..
click
whirrrr
Hnnnnnnnghh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:06
So they have their own radial in order to hide things.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:06
okay
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:06
Same with <Custom>
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:07
yeah, that's what confused me ... I was making sure I hadn't clicked custom by mistake
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:07
Yea the only reason I called it out is because of Toholk and the other one.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:07
and yes .. it restricts the dynasty proper relics
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:07
So that if you're declaring your custom dynasty is Maynarkh, they are able to be chosen
and then hidden if you declare another one
"Looking good! I did notice that you can add a Heavy Destroyer to a Destroyer unit when there's less than three models and you shouldn't be able to."
Do me a favor and test that?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 18:08
can confirm ^
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:08
sec
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:08
Replace "Three" with "two"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:09
yup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:09
Can you do it with less than two I mean
three is by design
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:09
and not sure is squad size max 6 including a heavy ?
yes I can .. no error
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:10
"If the unit contains at least three models, a Heavy destroy can take the place of a destroyer
meaning you can have 2/1
And yes - max size including Heavy destoryer should be 6
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:10
yus, but not 1/1 as currently
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:10
5/1 because once you hit 6, you can replace one with a heavy
Ok, so it lets you when 1/1
that's bad
I'll fix that
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:10
currently 6/1
too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:10
yeaaaa that's bad
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 18:10
6/1 throws a warning
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:11
aaah yeah so it does
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:12
but still, allowing 1/1 is bad
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:14
@GenWilhelm that issue you raised is confirmed on mobile and PC for me now .. with the swapping of relics
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:14
Aye
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:16
@Kohato for FW chapters/craftworlds we've mostly been leaving them off the list
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:17
Fixed.
the destoyer issue
They're usually not an issue ... just with named characters
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 18:17
oh god, that release name @Kohato
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:18
:)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Mar 29 2018 18:18
why you do dis?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:18
Because I love you all.
Also, it'll be overwritten tomorrow at 7ct anyway
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:21
trying to take a casket without buying phylactery throws correct error, well done
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 18:23
Oh god
I think I’ve successfully turned my 2k list into a brigade
This was too easy lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:25
oooooooh Necron flyrant spam my dudes ! ... there's no limit on transcendent C'tan (apart from you know ... incurring the wrath of the missus by adopting the entire third world debt!)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:25
Noticed that did ya?
;)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:26
I need to find a cheap suitable proxy ... I sense a high sales of Dr. Manhatten models
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Mar 29 2018 18:26
Hmmm
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:26
and green stuff tentacle maker
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:26
get one and apply milliput to recast just the c'tan?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:26
Could ... technically use NB and Deceiver too
Trascendent is just an amalgamation of shards
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:26
yup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:26
your NB trascendent just has alot of NB shards in it
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:27
so 4 TCT +NB + DC
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:27
its a single peice model in that wierd plastic right?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:27
It's 2 or 3
if I recall
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:27
3 + an aux
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:27
if you get a t-vault, just get some blue stuff and make a 2-part mould for milliput/greenstuff
looks like 2 pieces
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:27
GreenstuffWorld has what you need
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:28
3 .. breast plate
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:29
ohh right
can't forget the braw
*braw
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:29
but yeah ... I'm not buying one ... I can imagine my 'friends' jaws hitting the floor
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:29
...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:29
fuck me I can't spell
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:29
lawl
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:29
Thermoplastic might not work on the Trasncendent.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:29
you should get one, everyone needs a centerpeice!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:29
the act of molding those wavy things could break them
they're so damned fragile
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:29
nah, bluestuff used right is very soft
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:30
Oh nice
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:30
you don't even have to press
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:30
I wonder if I could mold one from my built c'tan
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:30
just do it right and do each half separately, and extraction would be a breeze
@Kohato is it painted? because you will need to put release agent on it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:31
It is :(
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:31
ummmm ... the TCT is heavy support ... soooooo ... you could also maybe take some vaults as well ... and the NB and DC ? .... I'll get me coat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:31
In a tournament, you'd definately need to mold/copy your Tct
since the vault has the TCT in it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:31
NB and DC are what?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:31
nightbringer, deceiver
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:31
nightbringer
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:31
elites or HQ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:31
Oh
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:31
elites
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:31
lol
Elites
TCT is heavy
Oddly enough, NB/Deceiver are considered Named and unique
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:32
so two command barges, 6 TCT and 3 vaults in a SHD?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:32
even though fluff wise there are many of them and they are shards of themselves.
Haha
Nice wish
You'd be over points before the 2nd vault I think
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:33
I think I had an accident
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:33
just saying if you want to max out ctan that seems to be it
you accidentally clicked buy on a vault? ;)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:33
or 4
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:33
no, just ...cleanup on aisle 3 ...
I never thought we'd have anything abusable
and now .. I have to osee it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:34
best part is even if they limit flyrant spam by banning the supreme command, you're still good
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Mar 29 2018 18:35
yeah they aren't HQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:35
lmao, @WindstormSCR
You'd be at 1900 before the first vault with that list.
with the new points.
3391 with the whole list.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:36
so two lords (pokemon trainers) and a full duo team?
:P
you'd only have 5 cp, but it could be fun
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:37
I don't think you could even do that if you're playing with legal detachments lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:37
(CCB, 3x TCT) x2
two valid spearheads
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:37
Oh. But now you're down to 2 vaults.
Sad day
Oh, you meant in a 2k team game
thought you meant 4k hahah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:39
actually it was a terrible joke, since pokemon 2v2s last I checked were 3 pk each trainer :P
but its been years
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:39
oh wow, that went so far over my head it might've brushed the warp rift.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Mar 29 2018 18:40
its a silly list but could be pretty fun
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Mar 29 2018 18:41
I'd be game
I love c'tan lists.