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16th
Apr 2018
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 00:05
Austin
What is Compulsory Troops?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 00:41
huh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 00:45
@Kohato FW’s backasswards’s way of forcing you to take certain units
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 00:46
I know
I mean, what is it
an entry?
Category?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 00:46
I think so
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 00:46
Is that entry ever actually an ancestor of the Cult Arcanas?
Not simply an entry in another ancestor?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 10:35
there's just no pleasing some people. i agree to make a change in one ticket (#2858) and then get shouted at for never making changes in another (#2861)!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 10:41
well I applaud you for taking the high road.
i usually give the explanation that catalogues represent factions, rather than codexes, so you can build a detachment using one catalogue and be confident that you gain the faction bonuses for that detachment
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 10:42
I think I've just trumped his complaint because he hadn't read an FAQ :)
mic drop
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 10:45
i dont understand his argument anyway. even if they werent faction daemons, there's no reason to take them over the ones from the daemon codex
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 10:50
because of the FAQ which prevents you from using Faction:DAEMON strats on non-Faction:DAEMON units.
like Daemon Primarchs for example.
I assume.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 10:51
yeah, i get why there's a difference, but why would you ever choose to not have access to that?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 10:51
Exactly.
But if there's a loophole or an oversight, BCB will find it.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 11:08
... even if there's not i'm sure something will be posted
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 11:09
@Mad-Spy I applaud your diplomacy :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 11:12
He's now been offered the wiki entry for multi detachments. There's no excuse for his shit now.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 12:01
@Kohato are multi cat forces in 40k child forces of the battalion?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 12:01
Child forces of any detachment
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 12:02
Ahh interesting
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 12:03
@Kohato, you have kind of ruined my polite responses though by comparing him to a child.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 12:04
You were polite enough. He’s constantly come in and raised shit. He barely deserves a link to the wiki.
Act like a child, be treated like one.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 12:08

@Kohato Sadly, I agree with @Mad-Spy. It wasn't really necessary. You may want to compare his behaviour to that of a child. We may be historically-aware of his position regarding strict, illogical, grammar-nazi rules lawyering.

But unbiased, emotionless responses (such as the first part of yours) are all that's needed (that includes referencing biased and/or subjective decisions made in the past). Anything else is a personal touch :)

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 12:17
Sure. In the cases that that works. We don’t ban people. But we do nothing to curb that sort f behavior.
Turn the other cheek only works for so long.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 12:23
do we need to add "Wheatons First Law" to the wiki ?
and by 'we' ... I mean you :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 14:45
FAQ drops in 15min
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 14:46
my body is ready
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 14:47
15mins? It says 4.30 on that post?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 14:48
4:30 bst
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 14:48
we live in BST :P
thats 45 mins away
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 14:48
exactly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 14:48
Oh duh yes
My bad lol
Yeah I saw 4 and immediately went to 1600 forgetting it was 4:30 lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 14:52
lol. the 47th March jokes have already started
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 14:57
Of course lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:12
Hey. now it's 15 minutes.
well ... 18 minuets
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:14
I'm shivering...! :fearful:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:15
It's a FB Live reveal ... that they say is only on FB ...
does that mean the FAQ isn't actually dropping today?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:15

They mention downloading, I think it will drop. They do say:

The Big Warhammer 40,000 FAQ is coming today!

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:15
Good. I hope so.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 15:19
...interview with the design team to learn all about the changes and download the updates.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:20
goody goody
I can start referencing hard materials when people ask for troop lychguard.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:21
i wonder if they've fixed the 5 weapon battlesuit that we never implemented :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:22
O.o I missed that fun
How do you wrangle out that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:22
the coldstar starts with two weapons and you can replace [X] and/or [Y] for 2 weapons
and you can take 2 more weapons on top of those
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:23
Mmm. Cheddar.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:25
I think most people rightly didn't read hard into that, or missed it - there was no issue raised about that.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:25
yeah, i kept quiet, since he hadnt had the faq yet :D
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:25
Or they read the assumed amendment note I wrote, but I highly doubt that ;D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:26
Assumed Amendments is handy ... but burried
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:26
thats still open?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:26
It'd be nice if we could sticky
Aye, all the way at the bottom
I'd love to assign it issue number 9999 to keep it at the top ... or sticky it ... but I don't think that's something you can do in github
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:27
Yup. No way to do that. Either wiki or README. Issues aren't the best place for it, but both of the other channels I mentioned loose history/authorship, so.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:28
Which is a shame really ... Reference Issues are a good tool
for discussion and ... reference.
They should be able to be stickied at the top
It's 16:30
Lets riot
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 15:35
It’s live!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:35
Also, you guys thought 40k rules were loose and subject to interpretation. I invite you to dine on the chaos that is Star wars Legion
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 15:35
5 min late lol
JES!
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 15:35
@Kohato yeah, i looked at that and decided to wait- the minis didn't look good enough to really jump in
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:36
They're not GW quality ... but for 130USD I have a full 800 pt rebel force
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 15:36
@Kohato yeah I’m skipping Legion all together
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:36
And their squads are packaged correctly. A squad is 1 Leader + 3 boys. You can take 1 extra boy, and 1 special weapon. They package all possibilites
Not just the options for bodies, like all extra bodies.
But yea, the rules are ... fun. The packaged game rules are not the actual game rules. Those are in a "Living Document" 55page pdf online
and the game designer was at adepticon teaching rules that weren't in either place.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 15:37
Lol they admit it’s late lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:38
Looks like within 30m for download :)
Lol at the live feed comments
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I feel that summerizes the hivemind for 40k pretty well
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:41
thats just the power gamers. the rest of us will continue to play the same old stuff because we think its cool
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:41
Haha yep
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:42
the smite change is a lot better now
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:42
whats the new version?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:42
You can still get super smite on 11/12
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:42
so increasing WC, or a special clause?
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:42
its +1 to the warp charge, not -1 to the dice roll
and it caps at 11
so its always castable on a 12
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:43
ah, that makes it harder to deny, too
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 15:43
GK/TS exempt
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:43
and it doesnt effect TS and GK
thats imo is a really good set of changes
it now cripples the dodgy lists
but doesnt fuck the armies that are supposed to be all psyker bases
based^
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:44
yeah, GK players everywhere rejoice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:44
Character rules ... do we see the retarted LOS being changed?
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 15:44
Not rejoicing just yet :P
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:44
TS were given other options but a lot of the other options were high warpcharge cost and not always very effective
so being able to do a few more spites helps
byt GK were pretty boned without the changes today
but^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:45
I think we do? They're hard to hear in that hall
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:46
the character rule is as it is in the beta rules
oooh more command points for the 2 big detachments
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:47
Oh :(
That's disappointing
Yea, that's niec though
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:47
the changes to character targeting was to stop people sniping characters by blocking LOS
characters NOT being targetable is what they want
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:48
It's still the most retarted thing for me to be able to hide a single scarab in a building that nobody can see
And have that block targeting a character
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:48
batallion is 5 CP now
brigade is 12
it being 5 wont make me stop taking guard unless they FAQ me out of being able to
ignore wound changes....
looks like no stacking rules
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:50
Oh god ... 130 points for 5cp with soup armies in the form of IG batallion
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:50
Just 1 after-save
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:50
we'll see if soup is as dead as the rumors are
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:50
soup being dead would be stupid
soup is basically every fluff ever
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:51
*Matched play soup
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:51
yeah, theres no way theyre doing that
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:51
bobby g up in cost
400 points
good change
he's so hard to kill cos of the 9 wounds he should cost loads
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:51
Haha, dark reapers up too
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:51
tyants up a bit
so maybe just upping cost and not limiting?
we'l see
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:52
sounds like it
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:52
i hope thats the case
i HATE banning stuff to fix balance issues
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 15:52
hopefully just the wings #WalkrantsDidNothingWrong
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:52
"If you use the fluff and normal numbers You'll be fine"
"If you rely on them, you'll notice the increase"
So sounds like no limits
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:53
unless its in these new guidelines
yeh here it comes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:53
Ah yea, rule of 3
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:54
Rule of Three, excempt: Transports, Troops
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:54
Good, excepting troops/transports
That was the only thing of that rumored rule of 3 I hated
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:54
well i guess it being 3 doesnt dramatically hurt
custodes could run 3 of each different shield captain datasheet :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:54
hah
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:54
of which there are 3
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:54
Yeah, in all honesty, it's rather ok.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:55
I wonder if that rolls back 1 commander.
To 3 commanders.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:55
ive never taken more than 3 of the same anyway like
they should imo change it for commanders yeh
and remove the per detachment thing
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:55
Well, you know, we now have about 6 types of Commander, so.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:55
my issue with that was that a suit only lists using the good detachments was no impossible
now^
yeh...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:56
I don't think Commander limit is going anywhere.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:56
spose it should still be 3 commander keyword units
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 15:56
more beta rules....yay... :facepalm:
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:57
ah ok so yeh they're fucking soup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:57
Ahh Here's the soup killer.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:57
game over for me if they do it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:58
Kill it with fire. It should stay as beta forever.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:58
lol its still per detachment
it has like no fecking effect
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:58
It's so you can't make a soup brigade
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:58
Oooh okay.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:58
cant use chaos/imperium in the same detachment
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 15:58
That's fine then.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:58
it does bothing
nothing^
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:58
It does
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:58
it just fucks with oddball stuff like assassins
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:59
It kills celestine/assassins
nvm
excepting assassins
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 15:59
no one mixed inside the detachments for anything other than the oddball factions anyway
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 15:59
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:59
I usually run celestine/assassins as a vanguard for my admech :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 15:59
DING DONG, THE SOUP IS DEAD
WHICH OLD SOUP?
THE STUPID SOUP!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 15:59
No it's not
lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 16:00
Can someone rehost a pdf link
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:00
Once we get one we can
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:00
The Soup is dead, long live the Soup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:00
community site is down :p
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:00
the next one they're on about could be a fuck up
changes to reserves n turn 1 shit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 16:00
whcomm is dead and I'm in the waiting room for the doc
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:01
PL is what u use for the 50% on the table
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 16:01
once I'm done with my doc Appointment I'll get to eldar and custodes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:01
If you play with PL
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:01
lol turn 1 DS can only drop in your own zone
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:01
That's BIG
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:01
Yea, that's the big one
As someone who doesn't deep strike, I'm happy for it :p
It slows the alpha down
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 16:02
So basically fuck daemons and custodes
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:02
If not outright kills most of it
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:02
assassins
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:02
Nah, turn 2/3 y ou can back line strike all you want
It's to stop an unstoappable alpha
Bloodletter bomb still exists, just waits 1 turn
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:03
imo this pushes the advantage too far in favour of lists with everyone on the board on turn 1
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:03
except cult ambush* - that is exempted
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:03
its going to be the turn 2 guy smashing the turn 1 guy every time now
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:03
It gives a lot of room for restructuring/preparation for Turn2-Alpha
@skonk
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:03
I think that's a bit of an overreaction. It ballances it out nicely
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:04
Exactly (as @Kohato said)
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:04
if you are a DS based army
and as such kinda have to have a lot of stuff in reserve
and you get turn 1
you will under perform and then get hit with the full force of the other dude if they have everything on the board
i dont see how that balances nicely
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:05
As opposed to me going second and getting fucked by things I have no defense against?
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:05
you can deploy to protect yourself from that
ITC events already have the turn 2 player winning most of the time
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:05
I still have to do so to protect against a turn 2 strike.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 16:05
Most of the armies that start with everything on the board have range issues and/or LoS issues
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:06
Idk. Time will tell - but I think it balances it out nicely. I no longer have to fear an alpha that kills 1/4 of my list turn 1
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 16:06
@skonk GT2, not P2
you’re making false equivelancies again ;)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:07
At least it gives you two turns of play, instead of knowing the result after first one.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:07
@amis92 agreed ... Their example of a T-vault resonates with me
Before when it had no invuln ... it felt horrible to have 500pts go up in flame turn one before I made a move
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 16:10
4.2K live viewers.
FAQs include at least some Forge World changes.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:10
We're gonna leave our broadcast now and go put out the server fires
lmao, not only gwcomm - the main GW site is down too
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 16:31
feels like it wasn't quite as impactful as expected...but I have to buy another guard HQ is sounds like :P
Only 6 pages :p
Hmm
Battle Brothers effectively kills Ynnari
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:46
All of the units in each Detachment in your Battle-forged army must have at least one Faction keyword in common. In addition, this keyword cannot be [...] Ynnari [...]
wait what?
"Or Ty r a n i d s"
Do Nids have another faction keyword?
Oh ... Oh @WindstormSCR ... I'm so sorry.
Time for another Aeldari refactor :p
And Celestine has been relegated to Sisters Armies only. I'm saddened, but that probably needed to happen.
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 16:50
it's not army, it's per detachment
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:51
Sorry, Sisters Detachments
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 16:51
And the “Brotherhood Of Sorcerers” destroys Daemons of Tzeentch ... unless I’m misssing something
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:51
Meaning I can't run her using a vanguard of assassins and her
Which I totally did. I wasn't nice.
Hmm, Yea they don't have that, do they
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:52
the faq is a joke
1 and a bit pages of non-beta changes and less than a pages worth of points tweaks
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 16:53
Index: Xenos 1 Page 76 – Army of the Reborn
Replace this paragraph with the following:
‘If your army is Battle-forged and the Warlord of your army is either Yvraine, the Visarch or the Yncarne then you can include any of these models in any Craftworlds, Harlequins or Drukhari Detachment (as defined in their respective codexes), provided that the Detachment does not include any of the following: Urien Rakarth, Drazhar, Mandrakes, the Avatar of Khaine or any <Haemonculus Coven> units. You can include these models in the Detachment even if you are using the Battle Brothers matched play rule.
If Yvraine, the Visarch or the Yncarne is included in a Detachment, all Aeldari units in that Detachment gain the Ynnari keyword. These units cannot use any of the following abilities, and are not considered to have them: Ancient Doom, Battle Focus, Rising Crescendo, Power From Pain. Instead, Ynnari Infantry and Biker units gain the Strength from Death ability, as described below. The Detachment is still considered to be a Craftworlds, Harlequins or Drukhari Detachment, and so can use Craftworlds, Harlequins or Drukhari Stratagems, Warlord Traits and Relics respectively. Note that these units will not, however, gain any of the Detachment abilities listed in their respective codexes (such as The Path of War, Craftworld Attributes, Masque Forms, Drukhari Obsessions, etc.).’
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:54
God dammit. 0 Necron changes
Or DE changes.
Clarify my damned troops GW!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 16:54
Tide of traitors is once per game
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 16:55
@Kohato and .. they’re all troops?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:55
Still siding on No for that one
So crons and DE still have their faqs coming
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 16:56
I wonder if the assumption of a Thousand Sons Army with Horrors was assumed that Horrors got the Brotherhood of Psykers Rule ... hmm
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:56
how do you run inquisition stuff now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:56
But yea ... for a "BIG HUGE FAQ" that we had to wait to get ...
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:56
thousand sons cant take horrors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:56
This is pretty sparse.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 16:56
Forget the Inquisition @skonk ... think of the poor Horrors!
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:56
im done moaning about horrors
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:56
You run inquisition as it's own tiny detachment :/
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:56
i said all this months ago
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 16:56
Commissar/lord commissar took a big drop
points i mean.
so they’re doubling down on the commissar nerf
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 16:57
you can take assassins with NO hq.... but you can't take them WITH a hq now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 16:58
Right-o
Which I will still be doing in games
Eversor, Callidus, and Cullexus are ballin for 250 points
Vindicare ... not so much
I just can't pair celestine with them anymore :/
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 16:59
Okay ... so here’s a question: Battleforged Army Units brought on via reinforcement points ... don’t count as being part of any detachment? Or they count as being part of thebdetachment they summoned them? (Eg Daemons)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 17:00
seperate detachment
that’s in a FAQ somewhere
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:00
looks like loads of the other FAQ's were updated
lots of them show todays date
so no more Greyfax + Assassins
even tho the fluff that introduced her to the game basically has her show up and take command of a bunch of folk
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:01
has no one mentioned yet... no silly stim injector logic
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 17:01
Weee! Stimulant Injector is officially deprecated!
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:02
theres like 15 FAQ's updated to todays date
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:03
yup, deathguard and lychguard officially elites not troops
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:03
Oh shit, nice catch - gotta go check those others
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:04
lol wtf
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:04
deamon prince of nurgle can take a plague spewer
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:05
pox walkers got fucked
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:05
commisars rooty tooty point and shooty now optional
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:06
Looks like we pay points for necron relic regeneration :/
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 17:06
Worthless, then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:07
entirely
I say it looks like it, because it wasn't addressed at all
It didn't really need to be ... it was pretty clear ... I just wanted it to be
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:08
... they didnt FAQ daemons spells to stop you stacking game-long +1 to wound spells on the same unit
or stacking accross multiple units
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 17:11
And also no forge world love. It's like GW does really acknowledge their existence.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 17:12
what? they just got a bunch of new (old) datasheets
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:12
Lmao
Scryerskull
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 17:12
yeah, they fixed it
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:12
No more pre-alpha-alpha strikes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:12
I wondered if they would
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 17:13
people already opening issues for the faq >_>
its been less than an hour
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:15
seriously
I WANT MY FREE RULES NOW
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Apr 16 2018 17:17
Thank the Emprah no more smite spam
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:18
@amis92 Looks like 5weapon coldstar is out
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:19
Did they unfuck stimms?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 17:19
A: No. You cannot purchase Stimulant Injectors
anymore and the rules for Stimulant Injectors as
presented in Codex: T’au Empire (i.e. the Stratagem)
take precedence.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:20
also, i now proclaim to have prescience for fixing ynnari to 'the new way' before it was even announced :P
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:20
so many questions not covered in these
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:20
@WindstormSCR Really? Awesome
I thought the changes would've fucked you
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:20
the good news? I can now field corsairs with obsec
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:20
oh hang on
more files updated
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:21
no, the change is that you dump ynnari HQs into a <subfaction> detach
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:21
FW and GW indexes
DG
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:21
guess how my new system works? :P
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:21
looks like every book is being done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:21
But with the rule change for – Army of the Reborn
Doesn't that mean that I can take all 3 Ynnari in a HQ Detachment
And then take DE/Harlequin/Craftworlds in 1 detachment
without them being ynnari?
as long as say ynverre was my warlord
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:22
technically yes
but that was always the case
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:22
Oh yea, I guess it was ... with aeldari
Woo! No extra work for you!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:22
but those other detachments lose the ability to do things if ynnari
which i implemented as well!
@FarseerVeraenthis I'll do the elf fixings once I'm home
@Kohato the biggest change
is that you can now actually battle-forge corsairs
visarch, reavers/skyreavers
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 17:26

HAHAHA:

IA Index: Xenos:

Q: Can DX-6 Remora Stealth Drones embark inside a TY7 Devilfish?
A: No.

GW, please write RULES not FAQs. There's no rule that'd at least HINT at that. xD

CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:26
yeah that made me a little sad, i wanted to do that just for the funzies
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 17:27
Crush them! Is now less lulzy
Good though lol
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:27
imperium levathan dreads got missiles
but chaos one didnt
even tho the model comes with them
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:28
no warptime on units that arived in that turn, i think thats the first time i seen a streight up "yes" become a "no"
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:29
@CloverFox which file is that one in?
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 17:30
index:chaos
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:30
Hey: Codex: Dark Angels
ERRATA
Page 94
Replace all instances of IMPERIUM with CHAOS in the keyword sections of relevant datasheets.
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:30
@Kohato don't you threaten me with the truth
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 17:31

Now I'm sad. I really counted on Tetras having access to that strat:

Q: The Uplinked Markerlight Stratagem can be used after an enemy unit has been hit by a markerlight. Does this include high intensity markerlights?
A: No.

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:34
darkreapers to 34ppm
intothetrashitgoes.mp4
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 17:35
34 parts per million? Surely that's above FDA recomendations.
er, EPA
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:35
tbh i might pick up some cheap ones on ebay if I can
since they're still useful, just not tourney grade
though I can still see people keeping a unit of 10 for "fuck your deepstrike" and sfd shit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:46
Welp
The rules for reinforcements say that when a unit is set up on the battle eld as reinforcements, it cannot move or Advance further that turn, but can otherwise act normally (shoot, charge, etc.).
Q: Can such a unit make a charge move? Can it pile in
and consolidate?
A: Yes to both questions – the unit can declare a charge and make a charge move, and if it is chosen to ght, it can pile in and consolidate.
Q: Can such a unit move or Advance for any other reason e.g. because of an ability such as The Swarmlord’s Hive Commander ability, or because of a psychic power such as Warptime from the Dark Hereticus discipline, or because of a Stratagem like Metabolic Overdrive from Codex: Tyranids, etc.?
A: No.
Rip quickening stuff out of the webway
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 17:49
Holy moley hard core banhammer swinging ooooweeeeee
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:50
and again this only hurts armies that rely on ds
armies that can turn 1 charge without needing reserves (of which there are many) have indirectly been buffed by all this
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 17:50
I get the feeling they were REALLY sick of alpha strikes of all varieties
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:50
yeh... apart from any army that could do it without reserves still can
as i said earlier, bogus changes
hurts few, lets loads off the hook
admech can still infiltrate blobs of hittybots, 9 inches away, move them to 3 inches and then charge on turn 1
same with alpha legion and others who can use the same tricks
armies that can move, advance, charge can still do all their shinanigans
armies that without reserves could actually get closer than 9 inches on turn 1 and then charge
at least the reserve based armies had the hard limit of needing a 1 in 3 chance 9 inch charge
but they're tho ones screwed over by all this
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:57
they said to use wobbly model to that before
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:57
@WindstormSCR which file?
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:58
oh actually the wordings not the same
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:58
Brb faq p4
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:58
i read a clarification that said if your model couldnt stand on the upper flood due to not enough space then you wobbly model it there
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:58
let the shitstorm commence
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 17:59
this one is mixing that and not being able to cos its a unit that cant go on upper floors which isnt the same situation
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:59
It's a question that certain types of players like to bring up a lot...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 17:59
@skonk except it also calls out not enough room
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 17:59
We had one player that wasn't to fit an entire squad of large models due to "wobbly model syndrome" on a 1 tile platform
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:00
hence me saying its mixing the 2 and saying fail to all
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:00
now i just need to figure out how many dark reapers it takes to fill the top section of a shrine of the aquila :P
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:00
tekton a previous FAQ said you could do it, if you had the range on the charge to get there but they would just fall off then you wobbly model iut
this one contradicts that
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:02
I'm fine with that overall, makes upper terrain and multi level ruins have a real purpose other than looking cool and maybe blocking LoS angles
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:02
well they already prevented anything but infantry from charging u
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:02
I dub it the "If I fits, I hits" FAQ rules :P
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:02
and shit with fly
now you can game the shit out of it to make it so nothing has space to stand there
imo thats worse
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:04
I present you, your lord and savior! GUNHAMMER 40,000!
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:05
so.. indrectly - nids, quins, orks, any lists with hitty jetbikes, any list with infiltrating hitty stuff and other fast moving stuff have all got more powerful relative to the other hitty armies
shooty armies will have a bit less turn 1 charge to face
and hitty armies that relied on DS have been boned
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:10
funny thing is that my GK didn't deep strike outside my deployment zone most of the time anyway...I just wanted the flexibility to respond as needed
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:10
there is saftey it starting off the board even if you drop in your own zone
so i get that there are still advantages
but these changes dont affect the armies that could alphastrike without needing to use reserves
hence me saying that these changes are not balanced nicely as someone put it; they are in fact skewed to badly effect just some armies and wont hurt others at all
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:13
The changes are not balanced, they balance things.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:13
they dont tho
of all the melee alpha strike lists, the changes only stop the ones who required reserves to do it
you will still get bummed by infiltrating berserkers or infiltrating electropriests or smashbots etc
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:15
bikes and things that move 12"+ do indeed see a buff from this in a way...wishing that admech Dragoons had more range now
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:15
you can infiltrate dragoons
9 inches away before the game starts then move them their full move and then charge
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:16
i can still want them to have 12 or 14" moves instead :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:18
how do you infiltrate dragoons?
Oh Styges
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:19
which is what i like to run dragoons as anyway
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:20
as i said, the change doesnt balance anything
it reduces it, but only by preventing some armies while leaving others to carry on as normal
and some of those armies could easily get closer (so lower range charges to make) than the ones that had to deepstrike 9 inches away
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 18:21
as long as to some it "feels" more balanced...perception breeds reality
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:23
So, it still balances things. Just not as much as it should.
And at least those armies have to pay in CP to do these things
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:24
its not balancing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:24
Your argument seems to be balance it all or don't touch anything.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:25
no my argument is that reducing is not balancing
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:25
I'm not following what you think balancing is then.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:25
balancing is when you reduce it evenly distributing the changes so no one set of people get screwed over more
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:25
Right. So balance it all or touch nothing.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:25
you could reduce it by just deleting 3 armies from the game, would you call that balanced?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:26
In terms of how many can do this thing that is hurting? Yes.
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:26
you could walk into a local shop tomorrow and play 3 games and be alphastriked in all 3 of them, even with all these changes
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:26
@Kohato chapter approved has the fix for order of ops on QS then WL trait to reduce damage by 1
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:26
Is that a gross exaggeration? Also yes.
Yea, I saw that. That's how it should be
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:27
Yup, but also contradictory the community team posted on arseaboutfacebook
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:28
Right, so they didn't do enough to balance it out entirely. The see-saw is swinging, but it hasn't leveled out. It is still balancing, just not enough
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:28
nice to see it here
James
@skonk
Apr 16 2018 18:28
i give up
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:28
Yea, we don't take the community team's word for it :/
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:28
and necrons now have a 9 cp force org yay
@skonk i
already?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:29
I understand what you're saying - you're mad that things were nerfed in the name of balance but other things that do the same thing (albeit at a cost of CP) can still perform them
It is not balanced. But the changes make headway towards that. Nobody is worse off except the ones that could alpha armies for no cost.
@WindstormSCR Don't approve that pull btw
Increment wasn't changed
Or, do approve it and also make another commit to increment :p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:31
well it's removing index options, so....
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:32
Oh, then ... don't approve it at all
:p I was just checking the increment
I've had a couple user submitted ones that don't do that so I check
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:32
i do that whenever i do a release, so /shrug
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:33
Only once per release?! How will you gain revision points
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:33
yeah, i need to pump those numbers up. IG making us all look bad
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:34
How does the new thing on max 3 non troops work on WE Zerkers we think?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:35
WE zerkers are troops
so they are exempt
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:35
^
Non WE Zerkers are indeed effected though
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:40
anything need changing in the gst, other than the CP of those two detachments?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:40
Nah, should just be those two
We're not validating "Battle Brothers" outside of puting things in their own cat files.
I should say - we can't.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:41
yeah, and i assume we're not bothering with the "suggested" 0-3 non-troops
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:41
Aye, that's a TO suggestion, not a rule - best to leave it out
same as 0-3 detachment limits
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 18:42
IG’s Rev numbers artificially inflate because I increment every time I check my work but never decrement before committing to master
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:42
yeah, and then put the snowflake Vanguard detachments in the relevant CATs
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 16 2018 18:42
@WindstormSCR that's fine, go wild :+1: did you see that Corsairs can now have venoms :+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:43
Oo yea, good point Gen :/
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 16 2018 18:43
Also Iyrillyth is now a character, that's nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:43
We'll have to update those cat files
I've learned from Amis @alphalas
Don't decrement
... ever
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 18:44
Lol
But yeah so every time I check my work it’s increment, save, import, check, return to data editor continue working
Numbers go up quick doing that lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:45
So in one army, demon princes of nurgle 3; demon prince of tzeentch 3, ... legit or no?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:45
Haha I don't do that - I just increment once at the end of any change session before I commit
Are the different datasheets?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:45
different datasheets, so legit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:45
Or is it like it used to be and they just take a Mark
Then yea, 3 of each
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:45
names are different at top,
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:46
Only commanders are boned
with 1 Keyword per detachment
The rest, I doubt Rule of 3 will ever matter outside of rather niche applications
Like totally non fluffy 7 flyrant bs
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:47
I
Eh, we'll see
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:49
I wonder if people will still clamor TO's to let them have a buttload of patrols
Or if the 8CP batallions will sate the CP thirst
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:52
The DE FAQ addressed that kohato
Basically says "that's for narrative, 3 unless TO decides otherwise"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:53
Ahh gotcha
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:53
I laughed a bit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 18:54
Also Price. I'll be damned if I don't read your name as Prince Van-Saint every time I see it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 18:54
The strat nerfbats and warlock points jump hurt more than expected
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 16 2018 18:55
lol. i like how they have nearly half a page explaining how noise marines work
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 18:59
@Kohato the missus has just also called me royalty! For sitting on my arse and not helping with laundry
i think im about to be dethroned
this should fix BCB
Q: If I take a unit of Daemons in a Chaos Space Marines Detachment, do I lose my Legion Trait?
A: Yes. However, if you summon a unit of Daemons and add them to your army, doing so does not affect your Legion Trait
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 19:00
Yea that won't stop peopl efrom opening issues
"It's in the codex book, why can't I add it"
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 19:04
Yes. It's not the same issue.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 20:04
And it still borks over Tzeentch Daemon players because of pesky mortals.
And Renegade Knights ....
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 20:41
@GenWilhelm i don't have approval ability anyway, and wouldn't as its a bad pr
it would be nice to be able to merge my own PRs though since I own 4 cats now :P
i think that's an @amis92 thing though
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 20:44
@WindstormSCR Does 4 cats make you a crazy cat guy? Or do you need more for that?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 20:45
I offered to handle DW if Acebaur is indisposed, so I like challenges :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 20:51
@OftKilted if that makes him the crazy cat guy, what am I?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 16 2018 20:53
@alphalas 'popular' for the next week or so ... :)
@WindstormSCR I dunno man, I feel almost tempted to try out the RG assault force with these "Leaping over tall buildings in a single bound" rules and being the only ones to get 1st turn charges outside of our deploy ... thoughts ?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 21:00
Maybe, going to feel things out with my craftworlds
but the same problems of screens, being blocked out of DS, etc do persist
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:02
7 cats, just in this repo
2 more in 30k, one in AoS, and the whole 8e 30k repo lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:15
7 cats may be, but that includes Astra Telepathica, Adeptus Ministorum, Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum and Sisters of Silence ;)
I'd call them kittens, not cats, really :cat:
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 21:16
:cat2:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:16
Ministorum is a full cat you leave nuns out of this lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:16
Oh, shit - right, forgot that they're called Ministorum now :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:17
Lol
Telepathica, Inq, assassins, and SoS I’ll give you as a half-cat each
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:18
Nope, I stand by kittens.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:18
Half-cat, kitten, same difference lol
So that’s still 4 big cats and 4 kittens lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:18
Kittens are cute. Half-cat is like a half-blood. No-one likes them ;D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:19
Lol fair
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:20
But, yeah. Those bigger are big. And it includes FW's rule-writing-effort en large.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 16 2018 21:22
Windy did have his own repo, so kinda ALL the cats...
In other news, I think I've finished a thing
But I can't share it because the gitter android app is trash
And my network is down on my PC for some reason
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 21:25
Well on the AoS side ... I have a bunch of Death cats...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 16 2018 21:25
So I'll save that for another day :smile:
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 21:26
@OftKilted "Cats of Death" sounds like a great metal band name...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 21:26
LoL
Almost as good as the “Cats Of Destruction”
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 16 2018 21:27
Also @OftKilted didn’t you ever wonder why I only volunteered to maintain Seraphon? Lol
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 16 2018 21:29
@alphalas We all have our reasons ... some folks have it for Dead things ... others for wild murderous women, some are huge fans of change ... and others like lizards ...
And then there are the folks who like steampunk dwarves ...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:31
@/all : I think we can all agree we had some very active non-core members for better part of the year since 8th dropped. Therefore I think including them in the Core team is most appropriate. Congratulations on the promotion:
  • @Crowbar90
  • @tekton
  • @WindstormSCR
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 16 2018 21:31
:clap:
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 21:32
Thanks? ;)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 16 2018 21:38
@FarseerVeraenthis anything i should hold off on because of this mysterious 'thing'?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 16 2018 21:52
:clap:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 16 2018 21:55
Trying to limit Commadres to 0-1 per Detachment for Matched play. Doesn't work:
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 16 2018 22:35
Hmm
IT should
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 23:06
@amis92 shouldn't it be max 1, not -1 if you wanted to do that?
might just be showing up weird on my phone, i can look at it again when i get to a computer
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 16 2018 23:14
:clap: excellent excellent
So after the dust has settled
I think it's safe to say
IT'S A GOOD DAY TO BE IN THE GUARD
tekton
@tekton
Apr 16 2018 23:21
Yalp
It also gives reason to not take a relic that gives CP...then again, more chances to get CP back now!