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17th
Apr 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 01:04
Eldar stuff all in
also corsairs can now properly get battleforged and obsec (but only when in ynnari lists!)
since the Visarch/yvraine don't count against the detachment type, it allows you to field a valid ANRATHE/<Coterie> patrol or battalion detachment
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 03:24
How does it feel being able to merge to master
Dirty?
Powerful?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 03:37
Mediocre?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 17 2018 04:01
It's pretty awesome
Until you really wank it up good
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 04:59
Feels good, and safe since i work from branches
I've already adapted my lists
got some nice things cooking for may if I'm able to make it there
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 17 2018 06:12
@WindstormSCR nothing to hold off on my account, the mysterious "thing" is the first model I've completely finished in about 18 months... It's all highlighted and detailed and everything, I shouldn't need to touch it with the paintbrush again :smile:
Obviously I have painted other things, just not completely finished them yet :+1:
(I'm slow, have I mentioned that before?)
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Apr 17 2018 07:51
Good to hear, @FarseerVeraenthis! One day I hope to follow in your footsteps 😉
Now show us a pic!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 09:05
@WindstormSCR @alphalas regarding the Battle Brothers BETA rule, I want to make sure, we're not enforcing it, right?
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 17 2018 09:14
do we even enforce one keyword the same?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 09:16
Not really, but @WindstormSCR did some regulations for Aeldari recently, and I'm not completely sure how they work. :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 17 2018 09:22
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that was much more dramatic than it needed to be, but there it is :smile:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 09:30
Pretty! :+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 17 2018 09:36
:blush: thank you :smile:
also, found out to day that gitter in Internet Explorer won't allow you to directly copy/paste pictures into the chat window
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Apr 17 2018 09:56
Looking good! Bet it feels wonderful to go like yep, that one's done, slap on the varnish!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 10:06
Ugh - hey @GenWilhelm or anyone else; I’m gunna be busy all day today, you mind improving the AM placeholder bugrep to be a checklist for me to go over and implement, por favor?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 17 2018 10:07
It sure does :+1: he's the first on a list of models I have to paint for a tournament at the beginning of June, so currently I'm on target to have them done with a little time to spare... But I paint slowly so I'm not sure if they'll all be as detailed as Zameon here :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 10:09
@alphalas i like how i'm your goto :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 10:22
You do good lol
Also the only thing I can remember us disagreeing on is cults HWTs; so I trust you lol
Also damnit I hate having to support BCB’s opinions
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 10:25
then stop attaching them to him and regard them as an independent statement
also, im not sure what that last comment is supposed to mean
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 10:26
Mine or his?
It was in response to the guy who was saying that his list is illegal in battle brothers
AFAIK all those units have the HA keyword
So while you can’t have the detachment keyword be CHAOS, it can be Heretic Astartes
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 10:30
oh. you put some words in angle brackets, which got hidden due to markdown
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 10:31
Yup; just fixed it
Stupid html markdown
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 10:50
Ok so even I was wrong lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 10:52
ah, yeah. but thats only because the example had a fallen unit
if you replace cypher with lucius, its legal
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 11:20
Agreed
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 11:28
@alphalas i think that's everything in #2866
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Apr 17 2018 11:29
You know what, I wish GW would update their electronic books with the updates... I mean, I can write up or print out and stick updates into my physical books but the soft versions are a little tricky...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 11:30
they updated the points costs when CA dropped, didnt they?
updating datasheets probably requires a lot more care and attention, however.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 11:38
Yeah I think only thing missing is the brood brothers thing for Elysians and DK
Dankeschoen @GenWilhelm
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 11:41
Elysians and DK have something special for GenCults?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:12
@amis92 To your question above that doesn't seem to be answered - we are not enforcing battle brothers. I'm not even sure we could without some ... rather bloated conditionals. We don't enforce same keyword now either.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 17 2018 12:15
We should not be enforcing it until and unless it becomes a real rule.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:15
even then, it'd be messy to implement
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 17 2018 12:15
and even then, i think it's beyond the scope of BS
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:16
We're all in agreement on that Iain - I meant when it becomes a rule
Yea exactly
It's ... possible, in the strictest sense
We'd have to restrict based on faction categories
in every cat
for every other faction
But we currently don't validate that sort of thing as it is now and nobody's complained before
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 17 2018 12:17
Exactly, we don't enforce those restrictions now, so I can have an army which has eldar, imperium and tyranids in it.
And that is a valid Open Play army.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:17
Like, I can take Celestine and a Daemon Prince of Tzeench (Who may or may not be the same person) in the same batallion
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:18
not in the same battalion, but in the same army
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 17 2018 12:18
so I don't think we should be restricting it. I also don't think we should ever implement the rule of X.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:18
thats a suggested rule, like the maximum number of detachments
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 12:18
The rule of X isn't even "matched play", it's Organised Events so yeah.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:19
Yea, rule of X isn't actually a rule
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 12:19
So that'd make us agree fully :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:20
@amis92 DK and Elysians can be brood brothers now; previously it was assumed they couldn’t because FW
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:21
Also @GenWilhelm
You can ;)
Add a sub-detachment to a CSM patrol of Ministorum
Chaos Lord and 2 Battle Sister Squads! Totally Fluffy
Also ... has anyone noticed that Jon put Merged Detachments in the list maker?
when the hell did that happen?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:21
If the lord is Mirael Sabathael sure lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:21
It's awesome.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:23
oh, i meant you couldnt as per the rules, rather than you couldnt in bscribe
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:23
Oh, yea
That's what I mean - per rules no ... but we don't enforce that restriction now as it is, was my point
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:23
If you make a CSM lord be a scratchbuilt/kitbashed mirael, in open play I’d totally let you run girls with chaos lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:23
hahah
I actualy need to buy some girls now
Out of context of the day
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:24
Lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:24
I have no other way to run Celestine now with battle brothers
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:24
A buddy of mine is actually working on a mirael conversion; I’ll have to post pictures here
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:24
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When did Jon put that in? I'm digging merged lists like that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:25
I personally would probably start with valkia and just de-khorne her
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:26
i think that was in .10 (desktop) @Kohato
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:27
Ah nice.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:28
it was the same time that the weird FOC ordering on desktop was fixed
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 17 2018 12:29
i already have a full SoB metal army, so might convert the plastic ones to chaos sisters
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 17 2018 12:32
hola peeps
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:33
dank :ok_hand:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:34
Dank Memes is best memes.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 17 2018 12:34
it was low hanging fruit, but it's been a slow day
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:36
Anyone planning on any more FAQ fixes soon?
Can release the first round otherwise
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 12:36
I’ll start on guard shortly
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:40
I did necrons last night and laughed ... there were actually no changes. Just a single copy of "Hovering" from Arks to Barges
But hey, we got confirmation people were being dumb about lychguard ... and now I can stop arguing that yes, I can indeed use a c'tan power to the face of the model i'm also punching with said c'tan
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 12:42
nids got 2 points changes, and 3 minor additions to abilities
no real changes other than biovores are now RIP
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 12:58
I'd like to finish off T'au, there are still some things to do.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 12:59
Go for it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 13:12
I'm not sure: were Kroot Knarlocs added in this update or have I missed them previously? :o
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 13:13
No they’re new
But they’re non-matched
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:15
Hey. You wait
Codex: Kroot
It'll be real, I swear it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 13:16
Oh, no point costs. True dat.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 13:17
God I hope so
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:24
Really? Is there that much of a draw for Tau Allies as a codex?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 13:25
Remember @Kohato; when deathwatch was just 1 squad kroot mercs actually had a whole codex worth of stuff
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:26
Though if they include Demiurg i'll be happy
Oh really? Damn
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 13:26
Yeah back in OG ChapApp days
Kroot mercs was a whole playable race
And Deathwatch was just 1 squad lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 17 2018 13:31

Demiurg brotherhood responding.

Open fire.

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:32
Such a fun game
can't wait for #2
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 17 2018 13:34

Campaign dregded on too long imo and those "defend the planet from bombarding"-missions were ridiculous.
and I worked with Eldar, I'll never get that stain of my honour (yes. I know. Shut up already :P)

Will still get #2 tho-

*off
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:35
Necrons yo
I'll take my flying pyramids and flying pyramids on top of crescents
(Necron BFG ships are ... funny)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 17 2018 13:35
yo
We put a pyramid on a pyramid so you can pyramid while you...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:38
I mean that's about it
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 17 2018 13:38
there was kroot riding cold ones with snipers, kroot with orc arms, kroot with bat wings, stealty kroot, and a shaper council where you could take certain weapons from imperium, eldar, deldar, and another i think
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 17 2018 13:39
totally unlike imperial cathedrals which are flying churches with guns.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:39
Crypteks and Fleetmasters were like ... What would happen if we took a Monolith ... and a Doom Scythe ... and put them together
And then added more doom scythes
and maybe another monolith
and made it huge
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 13:39
That is the summary of the entire necron fleet. Varying amounts of Monolith and Doom Scythe
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 17 2018 13:40
I have a monolith... I have a doom scythe..... uhhh... monolith doom scythe!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 14:57

https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/branches/all
@WindstormSCR
@CrusherJoe
@GenWilhelm
@alphalas

Maybe delete stale/inactive/merged branches, or make pull request if there are changes worth merging and then delete? :)

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 15:05
Don't hate on branches because they're old yo. #oldbranchesarebeautifultoo
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 17 2018 15:13
rules question, can you angle a base even if its not sitting on something, eg if a guy is on a box, and the box has a rivvet on it, can i angle my base so its resting on the rivvet, so i can get within 1" for the charge?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 15:14
Si.
As long as it balances.
If you're referring to the picture of the Hellbrute and the HWT on a box
I'd punch the IG player who thought that made him immune to charges.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 15:42
#2876 - You added strategems to the cat file?
@WindstormSCR
Ambitious
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 17 2018 15:44
anything that is "before the battle" (or similar) can affect list building, so we decided to include some of them
relic stratagems are the big ones
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 17 2018 15:48
Yeah my branch is the branch I do everything out of
I update first n'stuff though
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 15:48
Oh yea, the relic ones I figured.
I think we all put those in
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 17 2018 15:49
It's so I don't do something crazy like merge directly into Master like @alphalas
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 15:49
Hah. Merging.
Merges warn you of conflicts!
Live dangerously, commit directly.
@CrusherJoe , branches should be closed after merges ideally. If you want a workspace - the "Proper" way is to fork the repo
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 15:59
@CrusherJoe creating and deleting branches is cheap, and also it's a good idea to name branches after the feature they represent, too :)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 17 2018 16:30
Ugh, finally! T'au are almost closed! Oh, wait. What's that? Oh. Oh, no. It's not working... BattleScribe/Release#3
amis92 @amis92 goes on a rampage to Jon's Twitter
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 16:37
Hey, he's been decently responsive for the last two big bugs
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 16:41
@Kohato only the relics and the triple warlord trait one
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 16:42
Ohh that's what that one is fore
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 16:45
@sk_Father_Price_twitter it wasn't that bad as your comic :P
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 17 2018 17:43
@WindstormSCR lol I know, just made me chuckle seeing it and recalling you yesterday counting out the Cats you own .... still not found something for @alphalas yet ... double crazy cat guy
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 18:00
@/all how much is left to do before next release?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 18:01
All the guard stuff
I started working on it on my local but didn’t upload anything yet
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 17 2018 19:29
None of my stuff is getting done this week because I'm on stage every evening.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 17 2018 19:31
Hey, at least you aren't on the C-team - less money in the afternoon :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Apr 17 2018 20:00
Right, gotta stuff that thong somehow
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 17 2018 21:31
@sk_Father_Price_twitter That comic of yours was awesome ....
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 17 2018 22:04
I almost want to get my hands on the original ... print it out post it up around the office ...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 17 2018 23:11
who has orks these days
still @tag8833
?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 17 2018 23:14
Think so but he’s been radio silence so shrugs