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18th
Apr 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 01:44
he's on dakka, should I PM him?
sent, lets see what happens
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 18 2018 03:20
To be fair. This is his first bug in a while
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:14
Hi, sorry for my absense.
I'll get on the bugs shortly
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:15
its all good
orks have been quiet
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:17
Minor changes in the FAQ at the very least. Biker boss Waaagh rule
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:17
a few old bug reports maybe floating around
and some standards changes
off the top of my head: psykers should not require spells, just have a max allowed
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:20
Cool. I'll get that updated. Any other changes for how an index army's BS file should work?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:23
probably not. I think the brb warlord traits got added
@Mad-Spy has been smashing the few bugs that pop up looks like
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:27
On #2881, the issue is, you can only take Grot Tanks in an army that contains a Big Mek.
The constraint is working correctly, but it's probably not being communicated to the user correctly
Do you have a recommendation for how I should make it more obvious?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:29
probably hide grot tanks unless a big mek is in the right place
is it by detachment? or by army?
I'm not familiar with orks
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:29
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:29
you have BIG MEK as a category right?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:30
Yes
When I created the 8th ed file I hid grot tanks unless you added a Big Mek, and we got several bug reports that they were missing.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:30
people should learn to read then
pick one, roll with it, whack the Bugreps with the idiot spanna
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:32
Either way is fine with me. Kinda wish I could make it say "Fast Attack Has 1 too many selection of Grot Tanks because there are no selected entries of Big Mek.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:34
yeah
that's something I really wish we had better control over, was being able to pop custom warnings
like just an item similar to an append modifier is now, that can have conditionals set
because then anytime someone makes an eldar ynnari detachment, I can just check for a ynnari warlord, and pop a custom if there isn't
really easy to idiot proof certain things
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:36
I'm going to put a mandatory upgrade on grot tanks that is called "Big Mek Required", and hide it if there is a big mek in the list
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:37
not a bad idea
could get weird with how BS does conditional recalcs
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:38
Yeah, it isn't hiding the way I'd like it to.
It is staying selected, and unless the user manually unselects it, it doesn't hide.
Maybe I'll just give up on hiding it.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 18 2018 05:50
I had to do something similar with some units in AoS. If I remember correctly, I added a max -1 in force, and modded it to max 0 if no "required unit"?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:51
Is there a working AoS data file?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 18 2018 05:51
Take a look at the AoS v2.0 branch, in the Skaven file for Skritch Spiteclaw.
You can only take him if you take his band as well, and vice versa.
Whatever I did there seemed to work ok.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 05:52
Honestly it feels like a woefully outdated rule for 8th ed, but because it is FW, it isn't likely to be cleaned up any time soon.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 18 2018 05:56
can we get a release tonight or tomorrow to avoid duplicate bugreps of the stuff that's already fixed?
@GenWilhelm or @Kohato since you guys normally do it and I haven't been told how yet :P
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Apr 18 2018 06:01
Ork FAQ updates are done, and the Bugs are fixed. So that file is good to go.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:04
Boom. Gone.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 18 2018 09:06
You mean "done" I hope. Or have you removed all the files and their history ;) :end:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:07
i mean the release has gone. out into the big wide world :ship:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 18 2018 09:08
Oh oooh, cool :shipit:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:22
found a kinda big bug in bscribe :(
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 18 2018 09:23
... you did? And how big is it, exactly?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:24
well not that big, since we havent seen it before, but it breaks some of what im trying to do for the new factions and their special vanguards
so i copied the standard vanguard into assassins, and thats fine. but when i attempt to add a child to the force, it lets me choose from any catalogue, which throws up errors since those cats dont have the force type that is being selected
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 18 2018 09:27
Maybe you didn't change ID? Of something?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:28
the IDs are definitely unique, at least within forces
looking into it deeper, it appears to work as i had expected (the child force is deleted), so its mostly a UX bug - you get a big scary error message if you do something wrong
There were some problems with your data files. If you continue, this may lead to crashes or other strange behaviour.
1) Imperium - Space Marines:846d-3c14-21fc-369f:net.battlescribe.model.data.Catalogue@1536c5d: The catalogue data file is invalid:
2) No force entry found
3) Vanguard Detachment:cf6f-c88e-143d-300d:net.battlescribe.model.roster.Force@4f2d70: Some selections have been removed from your roster because they no longer exist in the data file(s).
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:37
the implementation works if the user does everything correctly (lol) :P
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 18 2018 09:37
Oh, the horror implied in that statement Gen
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:38
i cant think of any other sensible way to do it though, so we might have to put up with big scary error messages for now
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 18 2018 09:39
And raise issue to BScribe/Release for later
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 09:39
will do
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 18 2018 10:05
something else i just noticed - using merged force layout doesnt sum the costs for all of the forces with children; it only displays the cost of the top level force
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Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 18 2018 14:04

ok, so I think I've been playing <FLY> wrong since forever ?

https://i.imgur.com/hIPClti.jpg

in movement and now with the FAQ ... <FLY> ignores vertical ALL the time ?

CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 18 2018 15:08
shooting is still liniar, ie diagonal, i beleive, i think thats in the faq, but for movement vertical is ignored
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 18 2018 15:36
Movement has always been ignore verticle
Range is true range.
This is the case for shooting and charging (and psyker powers/c'tan powers)
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
Apr 18 2018 22:56
@amis92 Sorry I'm reading your message only now... Thanks for the promotion! I'm going to fix all the stuff in my catalogues now :)