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25th
Apr 2018
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 25 2018 00:16
@amis92 That could actually be leveraged in AoS ... in AoS battletomes are often encompassed factions ... that could solve many issues (potentially)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 25 2018 07:50
sadface.
I got God of War 4 yesterday.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 25 2018 08:09
hashtag notmygodofwar
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 09:45
So, played a Necrons vs Chaos game at weekend .. Sautekh for Lief! not taking Mephrit again I reckon ... extra CP from a batallion now and getting CP back from the code .. I was rolling in points ... loved it
still lost, mind ... but was worth it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 09:50
this is how every game as guard has been since they upped the command points. i'm using stratagems that give almost no benefit just to try and burn through them before the game ends :D
on another note, is there a limit (or record) for the number of times we can reference one issue?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 09:54
I sense someone has already reached their limit ? :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 09:54
i was just closing another couple of "missing daemons" issues and noticed that #2445 is starting to look very silly
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 09:55
reminds me of an old old film .. "One of our Dinosaurs Daemons is missing!"
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 25 2018 10:02
i'm starting to think we should add an emtpy unit a the top that says "to get yo daemons go to the daemon cat"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 10:08
Who owns 'Nids cat btw ?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 10:08
that would be me
well, nobody owns it, but i maintain it
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 10:10
was messing around with warriors in a list last night, noticed that each has a box to add Adrenal glands or somesuch ... but clicking one adds to the others ... I've seen a different way of doing it in Necrons where the parent level selection had group wide options .. wondered if there was an easier way for you to implement
it works .. not saying it's broke .. was just different
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 10:17
yeah, i prefer model-level wargear being on the actual model where possible. it made more sense when it was all on a single selection type, rather than as it is now with the cannon beast being its own thing
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Apr 25 2018 10:20
cool beans .. just thought it odd when I added glands to one warrior in 6 and they all jumped to attention like good little nids .. where I'd only seen it as a "Jump packs - add 15 pts per group" radio button ... makes sense now though :)
that's what I get for having 3 armies ... I need to focus
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 25 2018 10:47
@Thairne not a fan of dad-kratos and BOY?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 25 2018 12:26
Ok time for Kissinger to ask for list help again lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 25 2018 12:38

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) ++

  • HQ +

Canoness: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Blade of Admonition, Bolt pistol, Power sword, Warlord

Canoness: Eviscerator, Inferno pistol

  • Troops +

3x Battle Sister Squad
. 2x Battle Sister
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Storm bolter

  • Elites +

2x Hospitaller

2x Imagifier

Mistress of Repentance: Neural Whips

Repentia Squad: 8x Repentia

  • Fast Attack +

3x Dominion Squad
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Chainsword
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

  • Heavy Support +

Exorcist: Storm bolter

  • Dedicated Transport +

3x Immolator: Storm bolter, Twin Multi-Melta

3x Sororitas Repressor: Heavy flamer, Heavy flamer, Storm bolter

2x Sororitas Rhino: Storm bolter

vs

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) ++

  • HQ +

Canoness: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Blade of Admonition, Bolt pistol, Power sword, Warlord

Canoness: Eviscerator, Inferno pistol

  • Troops +

3x Battle Sister Squad
. 2x Battle Sister
. Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter
. Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Storm bolter
. Sister Superior: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Storm bolter

  • Fast Attack +

3x Dominion Squad
. Dominion Superior: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Chainsword
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Dominion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun

  • Heavy Support +

Exorcist: Hunter-killer missile

  • Dedicated Transport +

3x Sororitas Repressor: Heavy flamer, Heavy flamer, Storm bolter

Sororitas Rhino: Storm bolter

++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Custodes) ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Open the Vaults (2 Relics)

  • HQ +

Shield-Captain: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield, The Veiled Blade

Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike: Auric Aquilis, Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

  • Troops +

Custodian Guard Squad
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield
. Custodian: Sentinel Blade, Storm Shield

  • Fast Attack +

Vertus Praetors
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia
. Vertus Praetor: Hurricane Bolter, Misericordia

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CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 25 2018 12:55
fun or competative?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Apr 25 2018 12:55
y
i want gow and not Dark Tomb Souls Raider babysitter edition...
im just like 2h in so who knows... it probably is a great game but notmygodofwar
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Apr 25 2018 12:58
@CloverFox relaxed competitive; its a charity event but the 2k tends to be the competitive track
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 25 2018 13:19
I just cant see repentia make their points back in a game, which is a pitty cos i really want them to be good, I think priests buff them (+1A?) so maybe look at that if you do want to use them, and its really hard for hospitalers to make their points back even healing cannonesses its almost worth just buying another one, or bubllewraping her in a small squad of 3++ crusaders, also HB in sisters squads means your either not gonna be moving, or not firing that hb, better to take the hb's out and put them in a retributor squad, then put an imagier next to them for 4+ act of faith shoot them, also obligatory celestine OP. As for the second list, i dunno bout custards sorry =P
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 25 2018 13:40
@CloverFox An empty unit choice for the 'All Daemons in the Daemons Catalog' sounds like a winner to me. Probbaly with some kind of rule or profile that indicates that 'Daemon units found in this Codex do not have the appropriate keyword to maintain a Battleforged force. They have been moved to the Daemons catalog to assist in list creation.'
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 25 2018 13:41
GAH we need READMEs :angry:
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Apr 25 2018 13:42
same with ynari and the forge world relic tanks oddness (or was that fixed, havent seen anything on that in a while)
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 25 2018 13:43
@amis92 You can bring a user to the library, but you can't make them read.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 13:43
yeah, FWAA relic units was fixed
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 13:44
I'll add something to the relevant catalogues.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Apr 25 2018 13:45
@OftKilted right now it's a library without any guide, so you can't even hope someone will read it ;)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 13:46
@OftKilted, you can create a Battle-forged force with no problem which includes Daemons and CSM. What you can't do is have a "Chaos Space Marines" detachment (and gain Legion Traits) if you include any Daemons.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Apr 25 2018 13:53
@Mad-Spy valid point. And bad wording on my part. Thanks for clarifying my clarification :) It's appreciated. (Not so much the 40K player ...)
Perhaps a 'Daemon units found in this Codex do not have the appropriate keyword to maintain a Chaos Space Marines detachment and allow access to Legion Traits. They have been moved to the Daemons catalog to assist in list creation.'
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Apr 25 2018 15:51
any guard players here? looking for opinions on Pietrov's Mk. 45
thinking of taking a battalion of conscripts with a CC and a Lord Commissar. worth taking the relic, too?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 19:44
@/all, Chaos FAQ updates are done. I'd like to release them later, so if you've got anything you want to get into a release, add it soon.
Also, we are going to get complaints that DG and TS Helbrutes don't have the new wargear options. As far as I am concerned, the Faction specific datasheets are not the same as the main CSM one, so they don't get the new options. So, until GW clarify it, I'm not implementing them.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Apr 25 2018 20:34
Are they the same name?
But yea, I don't think they intended for cross codex wargear options
Just Parenting back to index
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 25 2018 22:05
what did they do to helbrutes?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 22:29
You can take the alternative melee weapons twice now, i.e. two power scourges or hammers.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 25 2018 22:30
ah
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 22:32
Twin scourges gives 11 attacks, which is quite nice.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 25 2018 22:33
I doubt you'll get much from TS players, from what I can tell the majority that run dreads use the osiron contemptor in some form
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Apr 25 2018 22:34
I didn't think the Osiron had 40k rules...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Apr 25 2018 22:36
they use it counts as for hellforged stuff iirc