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4th
May 2018
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 09:51
loads more stuff on "Last Chance to Buy" from Forgeworld - looks like the entire range of upgrade kits are on their way out - which is very strange to me...!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 04 2018 10:14
Especially because those all came out right after Calth dropped
So they’re practically brand new by FW standards
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 11:03
Uhuh... I don't get it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 04 2018 11:04
Apparently phosphex party (one of the 30k FB personalities) emailed FW; boilerplate answer of why no more
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 11:10
it's probably simple economics. demand for them is low, so they make small margins, so they get axed to make space for something else
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 12:33
yeah, chances are, but then, those moulds were expensive in the first place, and as Alpha says, they're hardly old
I'm waiting for the next Deathwatch tease
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 13:18
ARGH!!! where is my Deathwatch hit...!!
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 04 2018 13:25
(insert crackhead meme) "ya'll got anymore of them Deathwatch rumors"
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 13:33
:wink: you got it
I'm invested deeply in Deathwatch models, I don't want them to become shelf ornaments any longer...!!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 04 2018 14:10
Amen to that
but i seriously don't know how they'll solve the costing problem, not without drastic base price reductions that would seriously piss off standard SM players, or deathwatch-specific reductions to the price of all combis and gear
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 14:14
would you prefer them to be cheaper or more powerful?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 04 2018 14:58
at least more resilient
but how you do that without making them Custards ... or "more than Marines" is beyond me
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 15:01
primaris? :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 15:43
Yeah, the resilience is an issue
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 16:12
I mean, the price has to come down, standard Deathwatch veterans are more than primaris atm, and that's just daft... I mean, they could make then the same price as tactical marines but add a couple of points to bolt weapons to take into account SIA
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 04 2018 16:30
I think slight base price reduction and more significant wargear reduction is more likely
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 04 2018 17:09
My guess is if they drop the cost of DW vets it will be to 16ppm (same as company veterans)
which would make them base 80
with the 'fortis KT' being 100 base to account for SIA
sadly that would still leave DW vets pretty screwed unless they also drop the cost of wargear by nearly half
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 17:58
i choose to believe that it's @FarseerVeraenthis playing as DW on whtv rn
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 04 2018 17:59
Any new info?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 18:00
not that ive heard, but i missed the start
Do they not not post lists anymore?
Damnit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 18:07
apparently not
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 04 2018 18:07
We wouldn't want you to duplicate anything you see on t.v.
It's probably heretical anyway.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 04 2018 18:07
Was hoping I could glean info from the list
Not that they make good lists on tv anyway
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 04 2018 18:08
@alphalas Knowledge is Power. Power Corrupts. Knowledge is Heresy.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 04 2018 18:09
oh they did mention something actually. a guardian spear with +1 damage on both profiles. idk if its a WT or a relic though
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 20:19
and I'm sorry, but it is not me on Warhammer TV
far more important things to be doing like going to the opticians and re-designing the gardens (again!) with the missues
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 04 2018 22:09
DW Vets could have 1 Attack, and Ld 8, and then be 14 points...? As opposed to normal tactical marines which are 1 A Ld 7 at 13 pts, and Sternguard Veterans who are 2 A Ld 8 at 16 pts. Then they could add 1 point to the cost of a bolt weapon to reflect the increased utility of SIA. Then if you take a flamer (no SIA) then you don't pay the extra cost for something you can't use...
perhaps
then a DW Vet would be 15 pts with a bolter, which is between the Tactical marine and a Sternguard Veteran
looks at Index: Imperium 1
oh, yeah, they probably won't change the profile... sounds like bed time to me :smile: we'll have to wait and see what they do to "fix" Deathwatch