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9th
May 2018
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 09 2018 08:28

@WindstormSCR

so I'm working on a "1-5 or 5-10" switch

Where are the discrepancies?

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 09 2018 09:11
i have no idea, but i would guess points section vs datasheet
like what a bunch of the indexes had before the first errata
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 09 2018 09:14
Was there ever the case that the datasheet was incorrect, and the points section was (in terms of unit sizes, battlefield roles etc.)? If not, I think we can safely keep just the datasheet version, ignoring these blatant typos in summary/points section. Seriously.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 09 2018 09:15
nope. datasheet was correct in all cases
i would do the kohato approach and save yourself the effort until the first FAQ
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 09 2018 09:46
The Kohato-Approach (aka TKA) - right-minded approach to source book inconsistencies whereas the unit's Datasheet is viewed as an ultimate rule-providing entity, disregarding position of other source fragments like Point Costs section, Summary sections etc.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 09 2018 10:23
I hope it is 1+ , like the 7th Ed codex was, that was cool... Having said that, it would lead to abuse as people fill Brigades with single model units and get a billion CP's doing it
so it is likely to remain 5+
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 09 2018 10:25
yeah, having a brigade of ~20 marines would be... interesting
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 09 2018 10:37
cheepest detachment i can think of is inq + 3 1 man acolyte squads
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 09 2018 10:51
i think guard can get pretty close to that with the price drop on commissars
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 09 2018 10:56
yeah, although, it is one of those situations where it sounds "good" on paper, until you play a mission using Kill Points, and you opponent just laughs while reaping in the VP's
especially now that everyone can split fire
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 09 2018 10:58
there is that, yeah. you'll never get most kills, and your opponent will max out thousand cuts straight away
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 14:23
Tbh if i field terminators, bikes or VVs, it would be as part of a combat squad anyway
that way not only can you mess with the composition, but they are obsec
I might have to use some of my tartaros terminators and get myself some new catas or tartaros to mod with heavy weapons
what i really want to know is if standard terminators got access to combi weapons
because i would love to run my combiplas tartaros
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 18:23
what's the easiest way to test out the deathwatch repo beta?
Unzip to your data folder.
Or there's an easier way if you use Git's desktop app .. but I don't believe in that witchcraft.
TKA: Do the work yourself and don't let a machine do it for you ...
:p
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:32
@Kohato says the guy who plays and manages the Necrons....
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:33
And admech.
And Knights.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:33
They're all just Necron wanna-be's.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:33
I'd love a Necron Knight.
That'd be kickass.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:33
I know, right?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:34
But really, I just want 8th ed rules for a Ulator.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:34
Especially one of those absolutely HUGE snake constructs that was in the Necron art.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:34
Turn a T-Vault into a transformer.
Matrix of Leadership? It's just a Trans C'tan
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:36
a HUGE Canoptic beetle robot wouldn't be bad either ...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:39
index.jpg
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 18:40
thanks @Kohato
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 18:40
np
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 18:43
found one small thing, vehicle storm bolters are 4pts instead of 2
only non-vehicles have to pay the premium
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 09 2018 18:44
@MasterSlowPoke If only non-vehicles have to pay the premium ... why are they 4 points instead of 2? Wouldn't the additional 2 points be the premium?
(Or should that have been "only vehicles have to pay the premium"?)
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 18:56
I think I'm getting confused so it's 2pts as normal for vehicles and 4pts for non-vehicles because of SIA
but the repo has 4pts for all
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 18:59
Yeah, i need to make adjustments on the vehicles
i don't have access to a book
all of it was just trawling previews
if you've got a book early and can PM me some pictures i can start doing serious updates on the characters
because the reviewers keep glossing over character wargear details and the list contents
@MasterSlowPoke
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 19:02
I'm surprised a copy isn't floating around yet
It's wednesday before release.
aeldary
Ale Dairy
BEER MILK!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:04
I wish I had a book
then I could fix the character wargear things and know what to do with my HQs
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 19:08
I wish I had a book too
I heard that terminator captains actually have options now
no confirmation though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:09
I gave up on HH in my area, so I might convert a bunch of my consuls/terminators from my RG legion to deathwatch, thankfully they were only primed
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 19:09
makes me wish I didn't glue together my salamander from kill team cassius so I could use him as a cool combimelta + meltafist dude
mor drakyn or whatever would make cool deathwatch vets too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:10
the mor deythan? they have way too much iconography
and are cast as one peice
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 19:10
use them as a squad of just raven guard successors
that's what I'm doing with my space hulk termies
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:11
I have 5, they'll be the "scouts" if I maintain a RG contingent of normal marines for bringing devastators
Craig Sniffen
@MasterSlowPoke
May 09 2018 19:11
all deathwatch and random BA successors
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:11
I already have too many RG/RG successors lol
RG, black guard, knights of the raven, the list goes on
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 09 2018 19:12
Holy crap. Beer Milk is real.
Aeldari have their own drink!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 09 2018 19:12
and this is just before I convert any existing RG legion stuff