These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

10th
May 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 02:09
@alphalas
so I had a realization
here I am trying to figure out how to do more basic deathwatch vets
and then I look over at my HH shelf, and realize all the Mk IVs have the left shoulderpad held on with superglue
why sell them when I can just re-pad them?
tekton
@tekton
May 10 2018 02:13
yay re-pad-ing!
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 02:46
@WindstormSCR Nice! Go Superglue!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 02:47
means that all the tactical support dudes I did wrist/arm magnets will be useful too
just need a few of those alpha legion headhunter bolters as stormbolters :D
in the words of the manager at the shop when I told him the idea though:
"As a big HH fan that pains me, but knowing the local heresy crew around here I can't say I blame you"
and this is from the mouth of the guy that runs the adepticon HH events
tekton
@tekton
May 10 2018 02:54
doh :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 02:54
the local HH guys don't know what "narrative" and "fun" mean
tekton
@tekton
May 10 2018 02:54
all but one HH guy in our local groups (yes, plural) have switched to 8th full time OR AoS
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 02:54
"hey you brought RG? let me uncase my typhon"
I don't want to play HH if it means I need to make half my force mechanicum just to stand a chance of winning
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 03:29
I think I'm gonna add some Allarus to my Banana Boat.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 03:35
I still think the allarus bomb can work, but it's overkill for the type of games my local plays
I'd rather have fun with deathwatch
but since you're among tourney folk, it should do you good
tekton
@tekton
May 10 2018 03:36
i need a painting break from eldar, maybe i'll work on some banana bikes and termies this week
i'd kind of forgotten about them...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 07:40
@/all, I've just fixed #3036. I also changed all the warlord traits in the GST over to profiles as that seems to be how most people have them? Only Craftworlds (@FarseerVeraenthis) , Blood Angels (@Crowbar90) and GK (@tekton) don't.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 07:48
Should we all match up?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 07:56
CWE was the original implementation, so not sure how that happened
what about it doesn't match?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 07:57
All of the traits in CWE are rules, rather than profiles.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 07:57
ah, easy fix next time someone touches craftwrolds then
if you want to make an issue
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 07:57
yeah, it's nothing massive.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 07:58
plug @FarseerVeraenthis in for that one, I'd feel bad taking all his bugfixes (and I'm still working on deathwatch as I get info
you know, I'm still massively surprised I haven't had any custodes issues much at all
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 07:59
because you're so good :P
Also it's a small model count list, so the number of possible issues is massively reduced.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 10 2018 09:59
#3039 so, it begins ... the new GW app is now the defacto source for rules resolution ;)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 10:03
They're not wrong though. According to the datasheet, you always have to take 2 drones.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 10 2018 10:04
@Mad-Spy no idea .. just didn't expect to see "The GW app lets me do it, so it must be correct!" just yet
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 10:05
Well, the GW app lets me take 5 HWTs in an Infantry squad, which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed so...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 10:07
it also forces you to increment units by the maximum number per power increment
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 10 2018 10:08
so what we're saying is that either BS or GWApp are both either right or wrong depending on if they back up the position I have taken on something or not? ... that's some quantum level chess right there I reckon
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 10:09
what we're saying is theyre tools. they do not replace the rule books
RTFM is our default response more often than not
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 10 2018 10:10
@GenWilhelm - I understand that... I'm pointing out the irony of bugreps starting to come through quoting the other thing as a valid source of RAW ... just did not expect it to happen so soon ... it's going to be a "thing" soon enough tho
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 10:11
wait till they release the real app! I guess at that point we'll have to make a decision as to whether we follow the app or our own interpretation (if they differ).
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 10 2018 10:13
will need a new acronym ... RAW, RAI ... RAPTGWA
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 10 2018 10:56
Yeah, interesting times ahead indeed.
Still, let's not forget ;D https://i.redd.it/2y1sv9yej3v01.jpg
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 12:34
:D
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 13:41
A friend of mine posted that to me the other day, knowing of my work with BScribe
I LOL'd
Every single person I know that plays 40K thinks CR is a joke
I will, however, be interested to see how they do Infantry Squads with a HWT and points
I fully expect vindication!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 13:45
CR says that the HWT replaces an above model, which would imply that you can have 8 + an HWT.
However you can't decrement the models and you can take 5 HWTs so it's clearly nonsense anyway.
“Give us 2 month warning of hey this is going on last chance in 2 months” yeah, sure, because thats a thing any retailer does
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 13:57
isnt that the same as saying last chance to buy... but increasing the time by 2 months?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 13:57
yes lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 14:01
And then he ends it by telling people to email FW and say they’d buy the stuff when it comes back
Yeah ok sure
Because obviously those people didn’t buy it when the could
You vote with your wallet, plain and simple
Ugh
I’m so tired of this BS
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 14:05
wut
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 14:12
i really want to make a joker meme, "remove something quietly from the webstore and no one bats an eye, give people a warning your going to remove something and everyone loses there minds"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 14:13
heh. thats actually a pretty good one
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 14:47
its true too
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:02
@amis92 Yeah .... RAPTGWA is already a 'thing' or 'will be a thing' on the AoS Battlescribe cats ... Just ask @Mad-Spy and the GW Azyr app ... (It's all about the Skaven ... 'bout that Skaven ... )
@GenWilhelm The 'increment by Maximum Number per Power-increment' is a substantially easier implementation than 'between X and Y the points cost Z' ... the AoS catalogs have that implementation because any increment over the initial model allotment ups the cost to the next increment.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:07
Substantially ...
I mean. It's 1 or 2 extra IF statements.
to do it proper.
It's called lazyness in ripping a product strait from a fan, calling it theirs, then doing zip for improvement.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:09
It's at least several. Per unit affected. And then you're dealing with ensuring that the points are managed correctly. It's a headache.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:11
This is a billion dollar company.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:11
And, potentially working with re-working weapons management if they all don't get the same thing.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:11
This is not an exaggeration.
It is a billion dollar company that took an exact fan product. Paid him some sort of money, and put their logos on it and made 0 improvements.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:12
And we're surprised by this, why?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:12
It should not surprise them that it received a bad welcome.
Oh i'm not surprised. I'm saying there's no defense
"It's easier to not do it right" is a terrible excuse
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:13
I would love to see the list of bug reports they've had since they launched it
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:13
@Mad-Spy I'm not really surprised. It has taken the AoS BS team ~4 months to get to where we are right now. And we're going through QA. And we still have challenges.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:13
Inbox
Sent
Spam <73,405>
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:13
LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:13
That's probably what that email box looks like.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:13
I wouldn't be surprised if they've already gone past the number of submissions we've had since 8th launched.
because their audience is so much wider
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:14
(And the product isn't as polished.)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:15
I mean, it's polished ... it looks pretty
But the polish is covering air.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
May 10 2018 15:18
The data certainly isn't polished, even though the app may look good.
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 15:24
inbox <0> (cos no on uses it)... shots fired
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:25
Oh they do.
It just gets spam filtered.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:26
thinks I've no idea why the CWE traits are rules instead of profiles
but I'll fix it when I next fiddle with the CAT
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:26
Cause CWE was made back before we decided to do things the proper way?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:26
@WindstormSCR you can take over the CWE CAT whenever you like, but you already have ~ a billion other CAT's to manage :wink: so I'll keep it for now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:26
I can't remember when Amis put up the guidelines
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:27
:+1:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:27
Look, if you want to have a "who has the most cats" competition, I'm pretty sure I'm up there... :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:27
You are
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:27
Yeah, possibly my logic was that Warlord Trait is an "army wide" thing so it could be a rule along with the other army wide rules...
actually that sounds like rubbish logic
IDK, I'll fix it and then everyone will be none the wiser :smile:
and @Mad-Spy I don't want to start another willy-waving "Looks how many CAT's I've got session"
I was just suggesting Windstorm has enough to keep him busy for now
:wink:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:31
"willy-waving" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Thank you for that, right as the coffee cup hit my lips
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:32
hehehehe
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:32
Hey, nothing wrong with a good wang waggling contest.
I just play by golf rules and say I win.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 15:33
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Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:33
golf rules??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 15:33
finally lol
wip on my cel
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:33
@FarseerVeraenthis , lowest score wins
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:34
ah right yeah, that makes sense
I have 1
we'll call it a draw :smile:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 10 2018 15:34
I think @sk_Father_Price_twitter wins on that front any way, because he has 0 :)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:34
@alphalas she looks to be coming along nicely
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:35
When I finally go painting, Mine will be mercy.
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Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:35
Oooooh @alphalas I like what you're doing there
Damn @Kohato that's coming along nicely
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:36
Oh no
I paint for shit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:36
yeah, both look lush
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:36
That's just what I'm going for when I do mine.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 15:36
:+1:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:36
Gotcha
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 15:39
you wipper snappers with your new fangled plastic celestines https://i.imgur.com/NyBjXQh.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:39
...
Is she holding a dead macaw?
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 15:40
=( i was hoping you wouln't comment on that XD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:40
I like it @CloverFox
:+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:40
That whore. Why'd she killa bird of paradise?!
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 10 2018 15:40
it was supposed to look like an exotic bird with two tone feathers, kinda ended up like she squeezed a bit hard
thanks @CrusherJoe =)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:40
hahah
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:40
It's "The Emperor's Whore" thank you. Get it right.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:41
So, every time she resurrects
is it the ultimate walk of shame?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 15:41
Sure
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 15:42
Don't worry baby. I'll call you. When you die again. In service to me.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 10 2018 20:04
@WindstormSCR Aeldari Craftworlds bugs = squashed
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sighs
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:47
#3041 Simply isn't true
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 21:47
Yup
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:47
Screenshot posted as proof
....and closed.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 21:47
It’s an old BS bug
DK got hit by it hard previously
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:47
So #3000
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 21:47
I just ignored it because I knew the data was correct
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:47
I'm thinking "won'tfix"
Because to do it that way means you'd have to define regiment of
Each.
Individual.
Character.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 21:48
@CrusherJoe it’s a simple fix
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:48
Oh?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 21:49
Hidden if not “imperium/astra militarum” or “enter regiment here
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 21:50
But if the characters/models aren't the correct Regiment then they aren't legal to take them
tekton
@tekton
May 10 2018 21:57
i thought you still could in open/narrative play?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:03
^this
You can mix characters in Astra militarum detachments
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 22:04
Not if you want to maintain Regimental Doctrines
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:04
This is true
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 10 2018 22:05
But it's whatevs
If you want to enable folks to accidentally make illegal lists (or lists where Regimental Doctrines don't work) be my guest. :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:06
That’s why there’s the imperium/astra militarum option in regiment selector joe
If it’ll make you feel better, you can hide doctrines if it’s not the correct keyword
I won’t argue with that
But in an Astra Militarum keyword list (which is still totally legal, and means you can still mix and match DK, Elysians, and vanilla Guard) you can pretty much do anything
Remember rule #1
If it’s legal, questionably or not, we must support it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 22:48
I think at that poitn is a question of cross-cat consistency and "how much of a pain in the dick is this to implement"
@alphalas I can flatly tell you that such a thing will NEVER HAPPEN for Drukhari, purely because the logic would be too impossibly mangled
like heresy-level shit
and across every cat we have to my knowledge, they all work the same way where faction-specific relics require that faction to be selected for the detachment
so unusually for me, I'm with @CrusherJoe on this one. "won'tfix" purely because to implement it would be opening a pandora's box that should remain firmly closed
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:57
It’s a box that’s already open with all the other imperial cats
So it’s kinda late for that
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 22:57
which ones exactly?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:58
Also I’m pretty sure we standardize on that as being the template
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 22:58
we have a mixed option that shows all characters, but nothing that has complete relic validation that you suggest
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 22:59
Talk to @GenWilhelm
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 22:59
not in necrons, CWE, drukhari, tau
and drukhari will never have it, because the validation for correct relics is already an abomination against nature without an additional complexity layer
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:03
whats this about, regimental relics in mixed regiment detachments?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:09
yep
if someone ever does that for drukhari my response is "I don't want to triple the already hideous linecount for relic validation, you have a pencil. won'tfix"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:11
in a mixed detachment you just offer everything and hope the user is sensible enough to self-validate
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 23:12
That’s what I was saying
You have it so there’s no validation in the mixed detachment
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:12
for example, there's currently no warning if you pick the kraken relic and the kronos warlord trait on the same model
we could validate that, but its really not worth the mess it would create
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:13
goes pretty hard against the policy of not allowing incorrect configurations though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 23:13
It’s not incorrect
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:13
which has been used as a hard line against other streamlining efforts
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 23:14
It’s legal in a faction keyword detachment instead of a subfaction detachment
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:14
having a wlt from one faction and a relic from another is legal?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:15
he was referring to my example, which is 100% illegal
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:15
so, not often I will pull out my professional experiences, but oftentimes users can't be trusted to self-validate like that at all
in nearly all instances except this one, we've taken the stance of "fill it in with a pencil" instead of allowing potentially incorrect configurations
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:16
i think it's a pretty fringe case. as long as we're making it obvious which options are specific to which sub-factions, most people will be able to self-validate
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:16
every xenos/chaos catalog to my knowledge follows that line, where only general ones are available
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:29
I've set necrons properly.
IE: Allows all if no dynasty selected, indicating a mixed dynasty list.
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:31
I'll see if its possible to do with CWE/DE
but no promises made
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:32
It's simple enough to implement. Hide Relic > And > No Selection of Specific Faction > At least 1 Selection of Dynasty Choice.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:32
maybe for necrons
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:32
Or Craftworld, or regiment
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:33
you haven't seen what the tortuous nightmare of logic is for DE because of the multi-faction nature
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:33
For most things, yea it's a pita I'm sure. But relics can't be taken cross cat can they?
Like, CWE Relics aren't available for DE?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:33
no
I'm saying DE alone are going to be a problem
because they are effectively three factions combined
kabal, wych cult, coven
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:34
Ah
As long as you have a No Force Org slot for Sub Faction choice, it should be possible though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:35
while I go eat dinner
if you have the time, open the DE cat file in the editor
and gaze in horror
I'll investigate when I get back from eating
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:36
it already works in DE though, doesnt it?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:36
I thought he said it didn't for multi sub faction
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:37
the "none (mixed detachment)" option?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:37
Aye
I don't even see the faction options in DE
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:38
all of the relics are available with that selected
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:38
Oh ... then what's the issue?
I thought that was what was said was Difficult to do
Unless the request was to validate certain relics on specific models in multi-sub faction detachments
In that case, no cat does that, nor can it.
But in the case of allowing all WT and Relics as possible selections in multi-sub-faction detachments, Necrons currently allow it and Amis has stated he wants to do it to tau the next time he works on it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 10 2018 23:41
No I think that’s what @CrusherJoe was thinking was being asked of
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:41
they want faction relics in mixed
in DE the standard relics are there, but not faction specific ones
example the blood glaive for a succubus in a mixed detach
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:41
What's the name of your selector for the sub-faction Wind?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:42
DE does show the faction-specific ones in a mixed detachment
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:42
Yea, the logic looks sound as it is?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:42
I'm confused, you've already implemented it it seems :p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:42
hmmm
this is what I get for being sick while doing this
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:43
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:43
so just CWE needs fixing then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:43
Unhides if Succubus, Has Archite Glaiv, and is either Red Grief or "None"
Looks spot-on, other than hidden then unhide, but that's just a quirk I hate :p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:44
yeah, its currently forcing you to pick a craftworld for the whole detachment, which i think is the root of the issue
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:44
Which makes sense. CWE was made/redone before we started this sort of template.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:44
did we report that one to Jon? i dont recall
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:44
The Hidden then unhide?
It's not a bug anymore
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:44
yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:44
It used to be
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:44
uuuuh... lemme check
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:44
I just am loathe to hidden then unhide incase it comes back
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:45
@GenWilhelm adding a mixed option to CWE will be easy, just need to redo the relic logic to reflect it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:45
im pretty sure it is back, thats why i ask
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:45
orly? IT was only on mobile
where hidden then unhide just never unhid
so if you can see The Blood Glaive on mobile
its not back in the same form
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:45
yeah, loading up on android atm
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:45
@Kohato I try to do hide-if unless there is a particular reason I can't
drukhari had a few problems that made default hidden much easier to work with by leveraging the default behavior being hidden
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:46
Ahh gotcha
I mean, it all works the same now :p Just habit from back when it didn't.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 10 2018 23:48
you made me aware of it when I first started doing these, I've remembered it and used it sparingly :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:48
:D
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 10 2018 23:54
idk. it seems to be working correctly on android
i swear it wasnt the other day >_>
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 10 2018 23:54
haha