These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

14th
May 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 14 2018 00:06
....
Okay I just read the Telemon datasheet and actually paid attention
2x Heavy 6 S8 AP-3 Dd3 weapons? YES PLEASE
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 00:07
and its the cheapest loadout
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 03:10
Just pushed the DW cat to the branch it should be ready to go
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 03:17
@acebaur I'll give it a look over, then PR it to master if I don't see anything off
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 04:23
@/all anyone need any last minute PRs before the DW codex inital drop
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 14 2018 04:23
No
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 04:34
Deathwatch is live
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 07:29
Beautiful :+1: :smile:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 14 2018 16:41
Woohoo!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 16:58
Seen the harlequin tease...?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 16:58
not yet
Sorry, phone on a bit of a go slow
Looks fantastic
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 16:59
The damned webway gate is huge
like .. gigantor huge
Like, I'm fairly sure it's taller than a Scout Titan
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 17:00
It's taller than a wraithknight
So at least 9" +
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:01
The idea is pretty cool, considering tau have their own terrain
but I don't think it will make an impact in a proper board.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 17:01
Deathwatch and harlequins make me want to paint and play more
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:01
The space you need for that ... existing terrain will cause an issue, just liek with tidewall
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 17:02
Yeah, I hadn't thought of that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:02
Also @Mad-Spy
#3064 lol - thought you were BCB for a tic
Nice that Harleys are next though. Means that IK should be 6/9 :)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 14 2018 17:34
@kohato, there's a lot to be said for consistency :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:37
@/all thoughts on using #2445 to make @CrusherJoe happy and remove the Ministorum priest from AM?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 14 2018 17:37
Wait, what?
No, it's in the Codex and it should remain there
And it's working, it was just a hassle to make work right
So please don't change it LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:38
Oh it works? In that case, change it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:39
also unlike daemons, the priest does actually have his faction keyword
:P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:39
My thoughts was since we already have the precedent of no deamons in cult CSM cats
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:39
yeah, but that's based on the daemons not having the heretic astartes keyword
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 14 2018 17:39
But that's specifically because they DON'T have the matching Faction keyword
but the priest does.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:40
Damn lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:40
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:40
FINE
Lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:41
also, the eldar webway gate is going in the GST
because it's used across 4 cats
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:41
It probably should.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 17:42
what are its faction keywords?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 14 2018 17:43
won't be long and we'll get cat inheritance in BS 2.02 :smile:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:43
Beer cheese
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 17:43
just aeldari?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:43
haven't seen datasheet yet. GW's said it's usable by all 3
instructions in box
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 17:43
how many times have we not fixed stuff because it was going to be fixed "soon", @Mad-Spy :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:44
I mean that’s @WindstormSCR’s excuse for not starting work on the 30k rewrite yet ;p
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:45
@GenWilhelm from the looks of things just aeldari, and you have no idea how badly I want to get cat inheritance so I can just make the ynnari cat inherited by the other 4
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 17:45
Just joshing @WindstormSCR it’s a valid point
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:45
Battle brothers doesn't exclude aeldari right?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 17:45
it does
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:45
if I'm going to wade into that nightmare, I'm doing it once correctly
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 17:45
but you can take a detachment of just 1 fort
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:45
Hmm, it may have each of the 3 then
Oh duh
right
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:46
BB only applies to detachment, not army
"All of the units in each Detachment in your Battle-forged army must have at least one Faction keyword in common. In addition, this keyword cannot be Chaos, Imperium, Aeldari, Ynnari or Tyranids, unless the Detachment in question is a Fortification Network. This has no effect on your Army Faction."
emphasis mine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:48
oh nice
easy enough then
...
So
I could take a Tidewall with my admech?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:49
no, tidewall isn't unaligned
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:49
:D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:50
nah, still can't
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 17:50
Aw poop
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 17:50
"This has no effect on your army ffaction"
so still need a shared top-level
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 14 2018 19:49
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:01
@GenWilhelm amazing
I'll push those in
my harlequin-playing friend will be happy to know what's what
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:03
...
Motherfucker
You can hide characters in plain sight "Behind" a webway gate.
wait ... right?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:05
yep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:05
That's just silly
But so are current targeting rules for characters in the first place.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:05
we all agree current character targeting is silly
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:06
Also, while it looks pretty cool ...
I can't ever see any list running a webway gate.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:06
harlequins will
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:06
12" from enemy deployment, 3" from all terrain and center of objectives?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:07
because of the two strats that interact with it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:07
Where will you place it?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:07
remember its very thin
so won't be as hard as it looks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:07
True, very very wide though, and it has to be placed as pictured "As an Arch"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:09
says nothing about the orientation of that arch though
so if there is an angle where it will fit
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 20:09
@WindstormSCR you didn’t increment ver when you pushed that bugfix
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:09
ah
problem from that/
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 20:09
Deathwatch I mean
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 14 2018 20:10
As long as the pieces are in a straight line of each other, Yea - you could sit it however you need.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 20:10
I'm working on the cat now, I'll update the version
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 14 2018 20:10
@acebaur roger
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 20:10
want it to go up 2 or just one?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:10
just one
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 20:11
but one is the loneliest number
XD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 14 2018 20:22
Well let's see the filth that is Harlies
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sighs
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:26
its mostly in strats where the power will be
troupes are slightly cheaper, jetbikes much cheaper
zephyrbikes are 9ppm less but they needed that
starweavers are the same
hard to gauge codex power without seeing relics/WLTs
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 14 2018 20:28
And the WWP?
What's the over/under on it? LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:31
looks decent and usable
it will make some CWE options that previously were not so great more usable, but nothing world-beating
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 20:34
yeah, thanks for the leaks GW :+1: well done @WindstormSCR for bashing them in right away :smile:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:34
@/all considering the problems we've had with the GST and branches, I'm going to be risque and commit to master just this once for it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 20:34
also, good shout on sharing the points costs
oooohhh..... BRAVE!! :tongue:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:34
but that'll be after I get back from my appointment
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 20:34
righto, hope it goes ok (whatever it is for)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:36
points are in for the harlequins branch
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 20:36
epic
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 20:36
if you want to listbuild with your clowns
soaring spite with starweaver spam looks crazy strong
especially with the stratagem
get out, murder a unit, bounce right back in
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 21:28
Why are we still getting reports that the Inceptors are wrong?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 21:30
people haven't updated their data?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 14 2018 21:30
Wasn't one guy complaining that he did and it's still wrong?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 14 2018 21:38
yeah, I just responded and closed a ticket
who kows, it is right on my phonein V25
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 22:39
@FarseerVeraenthis you mixed up the units
Inceptors are the flying guys, they had an issue which has been fixed but is not yet in a general release
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 22:57
@FarseerVeraenthis gate in GST master. what I did was added it there but left it unlinked as root, so it will only show up when the relevant factions link it as a root
try harlequins, should show up for them
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 14 2018 23:05
Are you working on craftworlds currently? or can I add the webway gate in branch and fix the mixed detachment issue while I'm at it