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20th
May 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 00:26
Arrighty y'all
Off for Asian buffet then Deadpool
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:26
enjoy!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 00:27
Terrain of Shame.jpg
planet bowling ball.jpg
But before I go
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:27
ah yeah, the London GT
the organizer also made an ass of himself over on the B&C XD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 00:28
Can someone PLEASE explain to me in what universe paying 50 BP for an event attended by 450 people and getting presented with that shitshow of shame for terrain is okay? By "GT" did they mean "Gran Theft"?
Oh?
Linky?
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 00:30
shame indeed...
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:30
some of the posts have been hidden, but basically the thread was talking about the Big Errata that was coming
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 00:31
Such as?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 00:31
these are the same guys that DQ'd a daemons army that was all OLD sculpts that were on the bases they were supplied with
that caused a bit of a shitshow on dakka
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:31
and the OP claimed that the organizers of the London GT had inside knowledge of what was in it and posted some stuff saying what the rumors were
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 00:31
What's the Big Errata?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 00:32
the one we had
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:32
the big FAQ they just released
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 00:32
the spring FAQ
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 00:33
so the GT guys weren't actually the source and instead of just simply saying "Hey, we aren't the source" he was extremely aggressive and threatened lawsuits for defamation and stuff lol
here is the worst of it lol
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 00:34
queue "I got the magic touch" music
same entry
but keyword/category switches on the wargear
so when it's root-linked in the right catalogs it will show the right options
:D
XD
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 00:51
that brought back a lot of fun memories
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 01:01
@tekton @Mad-Spy @flakpanda @Thairne for #2708 the SSE for open play raiders is in the master GST, just needs a root link and the correct slot (LoW) and keywords (Imperium, AA, vehicle, etc)
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 01:02
Thanks
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 01:03
pity you can't use them in matched, its not like they don't have points for most of the configurations anyhow
and GKs might finally get a useful land raider (aka terminus ultra type)
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 20 2018 01:06
But you just use the LR without weapon as base cost and add whatever weapons cost on.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 01:09
you and I would think so, not GW
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 01:18
I mean, he's not won't about libel
But he's also being an asshole
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sighs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 20 2018 01:21
... yes he is
In no way is he "famous" enough to pursue either libel or any other type of defamy suit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 01:23
tbh you don't have to be famous to persue such a suit, just recognizable as the party the false statements are attributed to
but unless it has significant consequences, it's usually not worth dealing with, at all
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 20 2018 01:26
famous was the wrong word. A post like that will never cause any type of reputation damage large enough to impact his wellbeing or livelyhood
there is no "lawsuit"
The man is not well known enough for a forum post from an anonymous screecher on dakka to have any sort of effect.
He's as much of an idiot for suggesting libel as half the people on dakka
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 01:31
@acebaur about #3058 ... do we want to show the round-modified profile for all weapons? or simply clearly list the SIA rules at the end of the army document by default? I'm leaning towards the latter as its a fairly core rule and would clean up the length of deathwatch army rosters considerably
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 02:00
Core “shared” rule at the bottom of the roster sounds like a good way to get that more efficient
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:02
yeah, but the debate is efficient vs useful
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 02:08
I meant both in a way since I will be playing DW on Wednesday night on two games ;)
Had also thought about putting the “abilities” of the Primaris units in if they weren’t (at least in a local branch) when I build my list Monday
Or tomorrow- was going to work on cats tonight but instead we are going to Disneyland
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:13
Didn't realize those were missing
@tekton can you raise me an issue for missing primaris abilities? I can get a release out tonight
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 02:19
we could just list it at the end
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:21
You think that'll be fine? people seem to use and like the multi-profile, even if it makes the lists huge, I'm just trying to get a feel for balance of use vs length
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 02:21
hmm
let me think on it a bit
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:23
yeah, its one of those things where either way works, but its a real thinker
tbh I'm leaning towards post original profile + rules only
simply because it's less work for us if SIA ever changes
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 02:30
work smarter not harder ;)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:30
alright then
I'll rip out the multi-profiles
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 02:37
BS on mobile is being weird...
@WindstormSCR is it expected that it would show what an Aggresor does to the intersessor DW squad when one is added in? I was trying to get screen shots or reports bug but connection here is spotty
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:41
yeah, if it doesn't do that it needs fixed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:46
yeah, looks like it doesn't, but that's a super easy fix
I'll do that before I finish ripping out the bolter profiles
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 02:57
@tekton fixed
let me finish ripping bolter profiles and I'll get this out for release
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 20 2018 03:08
For sia
Reference necrons
REFERENCE entry in no force org
Allows users to play with the profiles fully listed out f they choose
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 03:09
hmmmm
I like it, but I'm not doing that tonight!
@/all we need to find our lost @tag8833 or pick an unfortunate soul to fix orks at this stage
@tekton you want to sneak in a GK landraider fix before I push a release?
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 03:13
I’ll get my bugs in and that tomorrow
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 20 2018 03:14
Not tonight is fine :p but I figure that format works nice for sia. I use it for powers of ctan and trans ctan abilities
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 03:15
hmmmm
I'll wait on the release to tomorrow, work in that bolt profiles toggle
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 03:29
@CrusherJoe you mind if I dump the open play raider into SW?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 03:36
I mentioned I could fix orks if you guys want me too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 03:37
To that I say: Enjoy your branch and assignments
OrksFixes is all yours
ever closer to the elusive zero bugs page
just CSM/GK/DA left to add in the raiders
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 04:21
@WindstormSCR https://imgur.com/gallery/CI0JiGn once I get back to a computer ;)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 04:21
I see
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe returns
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 04:52
@WindstormSCR I suppose not about the OPlay LR stuff...if you must
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe shudders and cringes
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 04:53
...being dumped into the SW cat, that is
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 05:07
its a simple GST link in root, and only shows up with the open flag
just grinding down the bugs
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 05:12
Right on man
I just don't like the taint of Open Play
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
May 20 2018 13:07
Didn't see it come through here, so did you guys catch the WH TV Harlequins commercial? Especially the end is mime-blowing.
On second thought, one should never use mime and blowing in the same sentence...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 20 2018 14:27
That's one reason why I put them in the original
@WindstormSCR I definitely want a specific profile per weapon per ammo type in Deathwatch
Because I played both ways in 7th, and having to think about what changes SIA made to a weapon just made it more work than necessary
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 20 2018 14:58
lmao. duncan with the two thin coats
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 15:20
They just couldn't resist going weird and creepy, could they? LOL
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 15:41
Looking over the results and descriptions of the London GT makes me sad for the people that went...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 15:51
@tekton got a link?
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 15:52
Putting together streams, pictures, comments across Facebook- nothing like an article yet
I’m hoping there’s better descriptions in the podcasts this week as people get home and ruminate on everything
The terrain picture from Joe alone up there is enough to make me want to punch things
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 16:00
i'm also not a big fan of tactical objective cards at a tournament, so i know that's swaying my opinion a lot @WindstormSCR
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 16:00
they tend to be a bit luck/swingy, yeah
fun for casual as a shake up
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 16:01
even as a weekly event for a game group that does take things more seriously than "casual"...but at a large tournament?
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 16:31
@WindstormSCR thank you for getting the primaris stuff in there, it helped with my morning game http://pyroturtle.com/assets/rosters/custodes_dw_2lib.html
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 20 2018 17:14
Yeah, so that also shows the problems with SIA as rules at the bottom of the roster - the sorting causes them to be out of order and jumbled with the other rules
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 17:14
I'll take a look at it
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:15
the profile sections are so large already though, that having them up there would make it really, really difficult to get through- esp if you printed it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 20 2018 17:16
As for the GT, that terrain picture was surprising, that looks really bad. They had a big vlog thing going on Facebook, I thought they were going to produce "proper" terrain at the end of it all, but I did wonder how they would produce so much so quickly - the fast/cheap/well choose two phrase springs to mind
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:17
caveat: i'm probably in the minority of preferring the rules over profiles
@FarseerVeraenthis it looks like they had about 5-6 "show" tables with decent terrain from the large group photos I saw go by on twitter, but all the rest was various foam wall planets
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 17:25
@acebaur just add a prefix to them
but there is currently no DW working branch
i was going to make one later, and see about adding the reference switch
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:26
Hmmmmm
So Guard/Bananas/DW huh
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 20 2018 17:27
what happened to DW2?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 17:27
was deleted on merge
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:27
The Stage is Set 2017.jpeg
I mean to contrast that was WGC last year
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 17:27
@CrusherJoe DW does have nice things to bring to the party
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:28
And we're adding more stuff
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tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:28
can't wait to check it out :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:30
Honestly....I can't wait for you (and everyone else) too see it and enjoy it
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:30
@CrusherJoe experimenting with an ITC "assault" (as in move, run, then shoot) list that just plays for points and frustrating my opponent- they've been way more successful than expected; that was my latest variant to get some missile launchers on the tables since there were a few times that wave serpents were able to move too freely, and they did their job well this morning
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:30
The Narrative Guys are going ALL OUT this year too....but that's nothing new really LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 17:30
when's it at?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:31
August 17-19
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 20 2018 17:31
Texas lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:31
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:31
i'm expecting to lose my games quickly to go check things out, since i'm still going to bring grey knights to WGX as the bulk of my force- it will help everyone else feel better about themselves
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 17:32
i might be able to go if I can beat this bullshit by then
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:32
Right on!
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:32
Custodes won the LGT invitational portion: https://twitter.com/iNcontroLTV/status/998250569344212992
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:32
I'd love it if everyone here could make it
Geoff won huh
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:32
0 surprised given the terrain ;)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:37
I would think planet bowling ball would be more benefit to Tau than Bananas
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:39
nothing to have to move around, straight lines for assassins turn 2
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 17:40
I mean...bikes don't have to move around anything to begin with
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 17:40
easier for banana boys to weather fire without cover than tau
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 19:43
@Mad-Spy since I see you're active, you saw the thing about OPL land raiders?
just CSM/DA left
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 20 2018 20:04
yeah, just fixing up the GST entry now :smile:
It wasn't properly hiding PotMS and DMS, and Frag Assault Launchers.
Looks like the profiles need to use Ancestor instead of Parent, and the Frags were missing an Imperium only condition.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 20:35
@FarseerVeraenthis @tekton @acebaur now there is a no force org reference item that when selected contains all the bolt weapon modded profiles in a single block
I couldn't get show/hide to work correctly on profiles
since as @Mad-Spy pointed out, parent doesn't work and there is no ancestor to trigger off
only shows up if explicitly selected though
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 20 2018 21:55
@/all we good for the last release before clowns go live?
tekton
@tekton
May 20 2018 22:04
that's an impressive table of weapon profiles- nice compromise; thank you, sir :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 22:49
I would imagine so -- the last things I committed were...yesterday? I think?
Oh wait, there's a couple of new IG bugs
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 20 2018 22:56
Okay fixed the only one that I can, looks like #3109 is BS bug related
So I'm good
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 20 2018 23:58
@Crowbar90 i’m gunna go smack your bugs around a bit