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21st
May 2018
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 00:23 UTC
@/all so #2961 is there a fix?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 21 2018 00:27 UTC
Yeah, move the validat
Validation from the category to the link in each force
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 00:29 UTC
its working fine for me as long as the FW force is the parent
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 00:30 UTC
@alphalas and @acebaur the GF is making stencils for y'all
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 00:31 UTC
anyone fancy poking at the DA bugs and risking the wrath of @Thairne
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 00:33 UTC
I mean...how bad could it be?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 00:33 UTC
i’m gunna take care of them
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 00:34 UTC
The Wrath of @Thairne ?
@alphalas is bored
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 00:34 UTC
@Thairne’s too old and crotechty to be of any actual threat lol
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 21 2018 00:50 UTC
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 01:15 UTC
For #2708 you said there’s a GST entry I can just link to in RSE?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 01:38 UTC
There custom and the named LR are now added to DA
9 issues left
I am not touching AdMec
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 04:38 UTC
They shouldn’t be.
In admech I mean.
Aren’t custom lr still adeptis astartes?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 06:55 UTC
He means the admech Cawl bug
Also not the place to be airing my personal shit, but @FarseerVeraenthis may have to finish quins
Since I'm at the ER getting mental help after nearly checking myself off of the planet
What that'll mean I don't know yet, but I might not be able to finish it
Didn't actually do anything, but came closer than I ever thought I would
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 07:01 UTC
And while immigrants not seem like much or out of place, you guys and this chat / the project have stopped it happening way sooner
*it might seem out of place
Autocowrecks
So I owe all of you a thanks and a beer someday
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 21 2018 07:04 UTC
Rooting for you! Also you're welcome, I think we all have a little group therapy here ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 09:54 UTC
@WindstormSCR I'll pick it up, that's a small thing to do if it saves a life...!! And definitely, don't worry about talking about things like that here, we're all adults and we'll try to help as much as we can :smile:
but yeah, take it easy and look after yourself - you're No. 1, you can't do anything if you're not here, so prioritise appropriately and you'll pull through fine ... I hope ... We're all rooting for you!!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:21 UTC
@WindstormSCR sorry to hear that dude, best of luck
Well it’s Monday morning and I don’t feel wiped anymore so I guess it’s time to share my batrep from the tourney Saturday
I was playing the 2k sisters list I had shared that had the 6 repentia
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:26 UTC
Game one I was paired with a guy playing Tempestus, RG Terminators, and a IK; I don’t think he expected sisters to be NEARLY as mobile as they are. He deployed his IK in the middle of his deployment zone with some screening from BLoS terrain, and put a taurox prime out on his right flank
I had first turn so when my first repressor finished it’s vanguard move 14” away from the IK he nearly shat a brick and started strike from shadows’ing his terms as a screen
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:32 UTC
So at the start of t1 he had castled around the IK with all his terminators and I had them surrounded by repressors; he didn’t seize so I moved and advanced up the immolators and just started melting terminators; first strike was one of the repressors nuking his taurox.
Highlight of that game was the 6 repentia, mistress, Celestine, and a cannoness with eviserator charging the IK and putting 14 wounds on it, taking it down to 1
Then the exorcist put it down after I fell back
I won, final score 23-19
Game 2 I pulled deathguard; went first and did absolutely nothing t1 because he castled up in a corner just outside my threat range
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:38 UTC
T1 he then eviserated the repressors and meltadoms, and then my t2 the repentia and cel died; I conceded t4 because at that point I was already forced into a fighting retreat and was nowhere near any of the objectives. Loss, 0-26; DG player actually went on to win the event too so that’s cool
Game 3 I pulled probably the coolest army ever; a BEAUTIFULLY converted and painted Angry Marines army using BA rules
Mission was double-relic Capture the Flag using Hammer and Anvil.
His DCo and double-grav Leviathan gave me fits; but as usual applying copious amounts of flame and melta was sufficient for most everything else.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:44 UTC
Highlight of that game was repentia and Mistress charging a 10 man DCo squad and doing the emperor’s work, while at the same time Cel and the Geminae charged (and roflstomped) Mephiston
That game ended up being a victory for me, 26 to 4, for the girls getting 49 out of 78 points on the day
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 21 2018 11:49 UTC
That's quite cool! Although the second game kind of highlights the problem I have with this edition, that more often than not games are decided super-early on. Two turns tops until it's obvious who's gonna win, and then just working out the level of win.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:51 UTC
Awesome anecdote from the event is that nobody in the 2k had less then a perfect sportsmanship score
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 11:51 UTC
Wow! that is good
games sound like fun
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:51 UTC
@amis92 that is fair; games 1 and 3 we’re both much closer until t3/4
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 11:52 UTC
where did you finish up in the end??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:53 UTC
Game 2 was a combination of he managed to castle out of my threat range (vanguard deployment), and I couldn’t roll for shit
@FarseerVeraenthis not sure; they don’t usually post standings same day
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 21 2018 11:54 UTC

Ah, well. Good then, that's bound to happen in a game of dice ;D

Maybe it's just me and my friends. Either I roflstomp them with my Tau, or I get completely crushed.

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 21 2018 11:56 UTC
i have similar experiences as IG. did have a very close game recently, but generally its quite obvious by the end of turn 2
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 11:56 UTC
Part of the reason I’m trying to convince the TO to switch to Best Coast; they’re using like 8 year old software that’s glitchy af
Yeah game 1 was by far the closest; game 3 was close but t3 his dice started going away from him and I was able to start mopping up DCo squads
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 12:06 UTC
I also love just how much damage repentia can throw around; those crazy S&M girls get work DONE
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 12:14 UTC
so, if it was at a tournament, how do you know who won??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 12:14 UTC
They announce the top 3
But they don’t release an actual list of the standings until a few days later
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 12:16 UTC
:+1:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 12:17 UTC
Mainly because of aforementioned old buggy software
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 12:21 UTC
righto
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 12:29 UTC
I just looked at the Best Coast site, it certainly makes bold claims...!!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 21 2018 12:35 UTC
bugs? What bugs?
Last I was aware of there was just the cawl issue which I intended to fix when I got back to work tomorrow and the typo in the warlord trait?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 12:41 UTC
BYO LR, the WLT typo...
I think that’s all I did to DA
BA I linked Red Thirst/Defenders of humanity to the pertinent squads
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 21 2018 12:45 UTC
Good. Had me worried there for a second that I missed like an entire page of reports I wasnt even aware off..
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 12:45 UTC
No it was only a couple
I left AdMech for you
I was just in the mood to whack bugs and those were all simple fixes
Oh yeah one bugrep for you was FW relics again; but that was operator error so I didn’t need to do anything to it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 21 2018 12:49 UTC

I usually check every day at work, so I TEND to catch that stuff and once a few are there to actually warrant doing work I slog in and do stuff. But I had/have a long free weekend so... :P
Cawl should be simple as well, most likely a "roster" and "force" modifier thing...

I'll go hunt that bug just to know what is a common problem.

tekton
@tekton
May 21 2018 13:59 UTC
@amis92 that's about how tau goes in general now...though I am going back to finish mine up after this eldar army is painted
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 14:00 UTC
Eventually I’ll try mechtau again
But holy crap do I love how my girls play
tekton
@tekton
May 21 2018 14:01 UTC
stealth tau for me still ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 15:44 UTC
@alphalas are you hoping they won't change when the new Sisters come out in 2019??
or are thre things you would still like to see improved??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 15:57 UTC
I don’t see how they can be too dramatically changed; I’d love to see Cel gain deep strike and Seraphim become more useful off the DS
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 21 2018 15:59 UTC
i'd like to see different excorsist versions, like, anti infantry rockets or anti air, that kind of thing, not from a competative standpoint just what i think would look cool
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 16:20 UTC
Celestine should not get deep strike
honestly
And I loved running her
Without Deep strike, You can EASILY get turn one charge
and decimate a small unit
maybe different when you have more prayers to give? But as flavor support for admech, if she had deep strike, it'd be too much
though maybe nu-strike won't be too bad with her
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 16:31 UTC
Seraphim with hereticus SIA
Or actual boltguns
Won't be talking here much
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 16:54 UTC
I really wish gitter allowed taking X Labled # out of the feed.
related: I love the new taxonomy for labels @amis92
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 17:49 UTC
Not sure when I'll next have PC access
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 17:58 UTC
We'll hold down the fort yo
Get yourself good.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 18:01 UTC
Yeah man, don't worry about it fella! Glad to see you're still posting here though - at least we know you're still with us!!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
May 21 2018 18:11 UTC
Phoneposting, but yeah
@FarseerVeraenthis at least the harlequins have all the relic/WLTs validation in already with placeholders
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 18:20 UTC
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 21 2018 18:32 UTC
GW Creative is great latelly
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:22 UTC
@WindstormSCR brother I feel for you -- I'm a drug addict that just celebrated 3 years of real hardcore recovery/sobriety -- I understand that place and I hope everything goes well for you. I also understand how having a place like this can keep you off the ledge. I really do.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:32 UTC
you know, on the subject of webway gates, you almost want it to be right near your enemy, in the hope they assault it, then you can use the "The Labyrinth Laughs" stratagem and deploy a unit right next to the unit that assaulted it, whenever you want. then you could soulburst oops...
on second thoughts, it will take time for people to find a use for the webway gate
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:32 UTC
You know when I read an article about the supposed Ynarri Codex before the end of the year
And they asked, "What do you want to see in a new Ynarri Codex?"
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:33 UTC
have we seen the stats for it - how many wounds and toughness??
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:33 UTC
My answer is, "The removal of the abomination this is Soulburst from the game."
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:33 UTC
ah
right
but then, what makes Ynnari any different from the other Aeldari factions??
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:34 UTC
How about this? Think of something else, almost anything else, than multiple free actions based on death of units.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:34 UTC
would you prefer a "Feel No Pain" type of roll instead?
or "gets back up"
or - Aeldari apothecaries??
(for Ynnari)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:35 UTC
Pretty much anything but double-firing Dark Rapers or double-attacking Harlies
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:35 UTC
yeah, I mean, they might have written themselves into a croner fluff-wise on that one
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:35 UTC
If you take anything that's stupid good, then let them do it twice?
Yeah...that's gonna be problematic.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 21 2018 20:37 UTC
@FarseerVeraenthis T8 W14
https://imgur.com/a/PzMcEhp
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:40 UTC
:+1: I knew there was a grab somewhere I just couldn't find it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:40 UTC
In Gathering Storm it just talked about them having more vitality, moving quicker
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:40 UTC
so it's roughly as tough as a wraithlord then
yeah, so I suppose they could make Ynnari move and advance with no penalty to shooting... oh hang on, that's already a thing for Craftworlds
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:41 UTC
Or maybe let there be a roll before you get to do it, 4+ or 2+ or whatever
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe shrugs
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:41 UTC
aha, that might be a good balancer actually
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:41 UTC
I'm not saying there's a great answer
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:41 UTC
idk, I've not faced Ynnari so I don't know how horrible it can get
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 21 2018 20:41 UTC
Or maybe the big advantage to being Ynarri is just getting CW, DE and Harlie units in one detachment
I dunno
But Soulburst, as it is, is...not well thought out and is prone to abuse.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 20:43 UTC
I mean AoF is on a 2+, imagifiers give you an additional on 4+... something like that might work
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:43 UTC
yeah, or just make it one unit per turn
because atm it's "any unit within 7" isn't it??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 20:44 UTC
Also Celestine and 2 seraphim squads Hand of the Emperor’ing t1 is fun lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:54 UTC
I can imagine that is not how your opponent felt about it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 20:57 UTC
Meh
I mean he was harlequins and DE so he was pretty indifferent
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 20:58 UTC
there is that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 21:00 UTC
Yeah apparently between vassal’s RNG hating me and he actually being really good with the clowncars he was able to handle my list pretty well
I do want to try this list again against not-harlequins though; everything having a 4++ kinda just blunts my list a bit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 21 2018 21:10 UTC
I'd imagine it would blunt most people's lists...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 21 2018 21:11 UTC
Fair lol
My thoughts are conflicted.