These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

24th
May 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 00:27
Man what a gyp! lol
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 00:41
So, apparently in the FW FAQ they added a bunch of new Ork units for Open play only. They don't have points values.
How do we handle that sort of thing?
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Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 00:42
Erk
Not sure, though I'll bet there was some discussion about it that I didn't take note of at the time
Which means I am no help at all. Sorry.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 00:48
My instinct is to add the units, but show or hide them based on the Gametype selection.
But I'll punt that problem for another day.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 00:51
Hey @tag8833’s back - cool
Obviously you didn’t meet any of the super-dangerous Aussie wildlife
You know, the stuff they call normal lol
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 00:54
I really wanted to pet the Crocodile, but the guy wouldn't let me leave the boat
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 00:55
Lol
No drop bears?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 00:55
Got to hold a koala
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 01:08
So I finally took the Krome out of it's home (where it's been since I got it, broke it down, lubed it up with Needle Juice, and put it back)
Did some "get familiar with the new tool" sprays with just water
I felt like a caveman holding a gold-tipped calligraphy pen
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 01:14
@tag8833 I understand koalas are kind cranky ornery creatures. Is that true?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 01:15
the one we held was main hungry. The zookeeper kept its mouth full of leaves so it didn't try to eat us.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 01:16
That's cool
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 01:16
Apparently the spend about 18 hours a day sleeping and the rest of the time eating.
tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 01:37
@tag8833 super oddly, my cat hates being called a koala
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 02:05
So, by precedent of Custom LAnd Raiders
Yes @tag8833
we support those units
Implement them, Set Hidden unless Open/Narrative is in force.
Is how it should be done
Also - Re: Assassins
Culexus/Callidus/Eversor is not a terrible deep strike force.
I use those in my ad-mech games, Cullexus for anti psyker, Calli and Eversor for specific cleanup
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 02:09
I was running 2 Eversors, a Cullexus, and a Callidus as part of my inquisition army when they used to get along in the same detachment.
Pretty effective. Callidus does no damage, but can sometimes deep strike into tight spaces.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
May 24 2018 02:15
@Kohato I'll get the new Ork units added in early next week.
Francesco Venturoli
@Crowbar90
May 24 2018 06:25
Hey guys, I'm sorry for having disappeared but I've been extremely busy at work
Anyway I'm back... I'll start working on anything assigned to me this late afternoon!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 07:02
I think a wiki about no-points units in in order...
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 24 2018 10:13
is it possible / probable to add the 'Game Type' selection to the detachment forces selection screen ? (I know that's a BS thing not a data thing) ... it's a universal switch that affects the list building regardless of faction, that I think would help users right from the start of building a list.. (i.e. am I using PL or Points here)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 10:18
For us? No
That’s a Jon question
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 24 2018 10:18
@Kohato would it be useful tho? for these outlier occurences
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 24 2018 10:23
would be nice to have some way of setting global modifiers, like the "use beta rules" switch
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 10:42
You know, we can always hack our way through it. Just nest one level deeper all the stuff we have, so that first you select a "Roster" Force, and only then add Detachment child forces xD
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 24 2018 10:55
@amis92 reminds me of my Dad, the kinda guy that goes to the store for a pair of gloves for weeding the garden and returns with a new chainsaw!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 10:59
It was a great deal, believe me! Also, I didn't have enough cash to buy that awesome harvester on sale...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 12:08
Can't we just add it as a Force type? That's what AoS did until we decided not to support it...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 12:13
I think the current state is good-enough until we have a more awesome solution. :> But I'm interested in hearing other opinions.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 13:42
^
Burying rosters one level deeper to force a choice of matched/open is bad
By default, BS is a matched play tool as it uses granular points
if someone wants open play (and the new units that come with it), they can choose game type > Open/narative
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 14:40
Or, y'know....use Combat Roster
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe ducks
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe runs
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:43
Keep runnin', fool!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 14:43
Come back when you're ready to sit at the adult table and participate in Matched Play
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sees that meme and laughs and laughs and laughs
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 14:44
:+1:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:45
image
HA
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:46
there you go
@amis92, are you able to create new repos in BSData?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:47
indeed, that godly power was bestowed upon me
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:47
We're going to need a new one for AoS 2nd edition.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:48
Why would you want to do such thing...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:49
Correction
You need a new one for AoS 1st edition
Which will be cloned from the current edition, then the current repo can stay for 2nd edition to facilitate ease of user data
Makes things easier. Otherwise people have to seek out a new repo
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:52
yes, what @kohato said
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:53
Okay, but that's not a reason, it's a solution.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:53
do you think that we shouldn't retain the old repo thne?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:55
Well, the situation for AoS is not really known to me, but I'm curious if there's probability someone will need 1st ed data.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:55
Same probablity someone wants 7th ed 40k I guess
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:55
yes, same reasoning.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:55
Though 2nd ed AOS is not the change 7th-8th was
It's really just a major faq
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:55
god, I hope not
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:56
some rules are changing, warscrolls are changing
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:56
I mean, 40k was the first to get special treatment of moving to new repo, but that's 'cause it was pretty close to complete rewrite, and it was mostly cutting off from some past errors too.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:56
I'll discuss it with the group
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 14:56
Okay, I'll chime in.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 24 2018 14:57
and come back to you. We're only releasing our rewrite tomorrow and GW have changed everything up on us. DAMN THEM!!
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe wonders if AoS 2.0 will be the version that finally gets his attention
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:57
It's no different frmo 1.0
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 14:58
...probably not. One waller-drainer/time-siphon at a time, please
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 14:58
Overall rules are the same
If you had specific problems with 1.0, they may be addressed and bring you in
but if the setting/ruleset didn't grab you at all, 2.0 probably won't
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 14:59
I used to be....so much worse
There. Read that. See if it resonates with any of you.
I wrote that in 2009, mind you
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:20
Holy shit i forgot about Santa Cruz Warhammer
That blog was one of the first ones I followed
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:32
I really want to know if anyone else can identify with The Sickness. :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:32
Dude
I have like 12k of tau
32k of BA
Plus sisters/guard/whatever else
I know what you’re talking about lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:33
:+1:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 24 2018 15:34
bloody hell, if I had THAT much I don't think I'd be able to get through the front door...
quite aside from the fact that if I had purchased that many models my wife would be "upset" at the cost, and I'd be living in a shed
I'd still not be able to enter due to the stacks of models :smile: :+1:
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 24 2018 15:36
I told myself i would paint half of what i have before buying more... i failed..
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:36
@FarseerVeraenthis let me put it like this
My BA FILL a pack XL
amis92 @amis92 joins CMBS support group, greets everyone else
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:37
Hi, @amis92 !
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 15:37
Hi, my last purchase was 2 months ago, I've had to get that bloody Forgebane deal. You know I had to.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:37
Actually I’m pretty sure not all my BA fit into the PACK XL
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 15:38
It's not really a problem that I haven't yet played Necrons in 8ed.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:38
I don’t want to acknowledge my 2 latest project armies I bought-.-
amis92 @amis92 pats @alphalas
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe is working on...Bullgryn. As a warm up project for the Scions he needs to complete. Ugh.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 15:39
There there, we all understand
alphalas @alphalas
alphalas @alphalas looks at all the Elysians on my downstairs desk then checks the USPS app to see my army of custodes should be arriving shortly
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 24 2018 15:42
(looks up Battlefoam P.A.C.K 1520XL)
yeah, that's quite a few dudes
If I had that many dudes, and that pack, they would probably have to stay in the pack all the time because otherwise I'd have no-where to store them...
so I have a small Dark Angels army, and a balanced pair of Deathwatch and Eldar armies - the Eldar I have been collecting for about the last 20 years, the Deathwatch expanded more rapidly than I planned after the Battleforce box came out, and then my friend was selling some at a "too good to pass up" price
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:46
Oh man
The "too good to pass up" deals
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:47
That was the custodes - and the first half of the Elysian army...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:48
A guy in San Antonio put up a sizable Scions force for sale at about half price. A friend of mine saw it, knew I was planning Scions, and made the deal for me without my knowledge then let me know about it after.
We call that enabling. LOL
Because...you know...it was too good to pass up
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 15:49
Lol
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 15:49
When you get that deal:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:49
Gotta admit -- that was some good looking out
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 15:49
Mmmmmyes
That feeling of being truly alive
We used to joke that GW put some kind of addictive substance in the plastic/resin that entered your bloodstream by touch.
So you no longer got your fix when the models were painted
....so you had to acquire more...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 24 2018 16:00
Haha that's a cool joke. ...or is it...?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 16:28
I mean, the evidence is plain to see.... :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 16:45
Natfka says knights go up for pre-order next week
...speaking of CMBS, dammit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 24 2018 16:51
Yeah, so, I don't buy LOADS of models, but I have asked my family to buy me models for armies I don't even play for my birthday... Does that mean I'm in the club??
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 16:52
Yes, @FarseerVeraenthis it does. Welcome. :)
tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 16:54
Then there's the fun BS Data wrinkle- I have an Orruk army since I offered to help with AoS Destruction... taps the vein to make sure it still works
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 16:57
Oh yeah. "But I got them because I do the data file for them, it only makes sense to have the army you're doing the data files for..."
tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 16:57
Yup; that was the thought, lol
So now I have Orruks with red toe nails...so they go faster
The Weirdnob Shaman make for GREAT Weirdboyz in 40k though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 24 2018 17:05
Yeah that’s very specifically why when I picked my cats it was “non-Astartes non-mech imperials”
1, because others had Astartes under control
2, @Thairne was very firm about wanting to keep mech
And 3, I have basically the ability to play all those armies
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 17:29
Mmhmm
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
May 24 2018 20:25
and I still do :P
or rather am
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 20:55
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tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 20:56
lol - like actually doubled over in my chair style
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 24 2018 20:58
Coming soon to Black Library /s
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 21:16
So: good news, bad news
Good news: Conservation of X laws of physics are, in fact, correct, you fuckers
Bad news: EM Drive turns out to be some bullshit
People surprised by this, raise your hand
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe observes no raised hands.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 21:17
Good, good. Carry on.
tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 21:44
Sisters rules question: can units in a Repressor shoot while the Repressor is in melee combat?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 24 2018 22:06
Yes, but not at the unit(s) the Repressor is engaged with.
tekton
@tekton
May 24 2018 22:32
That's about what we came too as well