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25th
May 2018
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 00:51
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the family picture
don’t mind the green assholes, they came that way and will be shown the error of their ways post haste
tekton
@tekton
May 25 2018 00:56
That’s pretty awesome
I keep telling myself to not expand my Custodes, but they really do play how I want GK to play (ie pre 5th)...
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 09:59
Gold is the new Grey
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 10:27
and @alphalas that's a lot of gold
@CrusherJoe - you had some kind of accident?? (what is EM Drive??)
About the only way we were going to travel space without needing copious amounts of heavy fuel for rockets
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 10:41
righto, nothing to see here, move along :smile:
also, 3 x NOS sets of MKIV marines (30 dudes) for £20
Retails at £90
surely I have to buy them because they're a great deal... right...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 10:46
No, Simon. Resist! Resist!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 10:48
and he has a set of Cataphactii, and the SM Heros (Captain and Chaplain in TDA) for less than retail too
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 10:49
So he’s splitting a Calth box
3 mkiv cata cata cap mkiv chap is literally Calth
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 10:50
uhuh, I was thinking that too...
would be £58 for the lot
£20 for the marines, £10 for the characters, and £28 for the terms
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 10:51
That’s still a steal
Cause it’s £95 new iirc
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 10:55
yeah, it is £95 for the box, but you do get a Contemptor as well
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 11:02
to buy them outright would be £90 + £30 + £40 = £160
so that's like a crazy deal, surely I HAVE to buy them...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 11:14
Oh yeah the garbo plastic contemptor
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 11:31
The question is, should I actually spend the same money on my first love - Eldar
Or should I actually just do some painting instead
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 11:54
from a serious point of view, what's the difference between Cataphractii terminators and Deathwing Knights??
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 12:17
Anyone got a PDF of Gang War 3? It's not on my usual go to place yet...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 12:32
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 12:33
It was new yesterday
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 12:33
who is Totalbiscuit?? (i.e. should I know who he is already??)
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 12:33
@FarseerVeraenthis on the tda do you mean from a fluff point of view or game?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 12:40
well, in game really... obviously the DWK have no ranged weapons, so it's not really a fair comparison... but since they work out the same points cost and have the same stat line I wondered if they could be compared on the table
or whether it is literally a case of "pays your money and takes your choice"
CloverFox
@CloverFox
May 25 2018 12:44
Totalbiscuit was a gaming journalist, made video reviews on youtube, often indie titles which gave them a big boost, big 40k fan and would always cover the 40k games on his chanel, did a dark herasy campain for a while
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 12:45
Well the DW knights have badass cc weapons
Aren't they also faster?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 12:52
yeah, DWK's are M 5", Cata's are 4"
DWK's have a 3+ invul from their shields, Cata have 4+ from ther armour
I'm thinking DWK's in a Land Raider to deliver them, Cata Teleport Strike to stand and gun things down
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 12:57
As a Templar I love the knights lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 13:00
I love want the kinghts too...
but part of me wants to "buy all the things" because "it's such a great deal!!" (see previous discussion about CMBS :wink:)
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 13:03
Regular tda is pretty decent too now isn't it with the buff to storm bolters?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 13:07
(shrug, idk) what was the buff to Storm Bolters?? Cata's come with Combi-Bolters at 24" Rapid Fire 2
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 13:12
They're the same
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 13:16
oh, from 7th to 8th, yeah, they seem pretty nasty these days
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 13:37
Oh man...terminators
The siren song of suck
OH SO MANY TIMES I have heard the call, and answered it
The one time it was truly beautiful was in 5E, with Paladins
I thought they would be so great in 8E
But alas, like many things Marine, there's just too much out there that kills them dead with one shot
At least they're (sorta) pointed correctly?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 25 2018 13:44

@/all I'm debating with myself whether label Problem: BattleScribe bug shouldn't be changed to Area: BattleScribe app. Opinions?

My reasoning is that something being BS bug could be labeled as Type: bug (in addition to newly named label), and also that current format restricts labeling issues that are not strictly BS bugs, but pertain to app itself instead of data we maintain.

Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 13:45
I think it would be better.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 25 2018 13:45
^ would be uniform.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 13:45
We do occasionally get things that aren't bugs
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 13:52
sounds good to me
and @CrusherJoe that probably saves me buying the Cata's then
and almost by default saves me from buying the Captain & Chaplain in TDA
now I just need to not buy the MkIV marines and I'm saved :-)
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 25 2018 14:09
@FarseerVeraenthis, in @WindstormSCR 's temporary absence, you're up for taking over his issues? https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/issues?q=assignee%3AWindstormSCR+is%3Aopen
The Drukhari ones I guess, Harlequin Codex someone will merge when it's time, as it sits gladly and readily on branch (I think?)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:12
dunno if I should raise this as an issue: Just made an RG list (I know, I'm a sucker) took Kayvaan Shrike as WL and (on android at least) he has the option to take any WL Trait.. I took the right one so I dunno if it throws an error, so should the others be hidden for characters with a nominated trait ? or am I over thinking it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:13
Different ppl have done it differently. I have a profile that only shows if you make them a warlord, others have validation on the correct option.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:13
nope, it doesn't throw an error if I changed it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:13
bug then
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:13
okee dokee
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:13
there might be an open ticket?
no, looks like I was imagining it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:14
No there was a bugrep for it
It should be fixed on master
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:15
want me to hang fire on the bugrep ?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 25 2018 14:16
#3016 I think
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:17
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:17
I knew I'd seen it recently!!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:17
well shizzle ... it's a BCB one ... now I feel dirty
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:18
I think he's finally understanding that asking nicely gets results.
see #3149 and #3134
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:20
yeah so I saw ... I choose to believe hackers.. or aliens
so, can #2016 be re-opened or do I raise a new
#3016 sorry
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:21
Make sure it’s not fixed on master first
I’m pretty sure I fixed it after the last release
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:24

I'm on BS2.01.19.276 data version 1.1.43 21st May (Squashing Bugs with a heavy thunder hammer)

Hmmm now I want to upgrade my hammers to heavy ones

Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 25 2018 14:25
Yeah, well, you'll need to wait for next release then, it's not yet public.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:25
Yeah pull the file from master on GitHub and check that
I’m pretty sure it’s fixed there
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:25
cracking .. super ... smashing
cheers @amis92
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:26
I don't see any Trait for Shrike on master... :(
or anyone else...
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:27
@Mad-Spy cause he be sneaky
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:27
I can't get traits to appear for any characters...
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:27
wasn't me
sk_Father_Price_twitter @sk_Father_Price_twitter runs n hides
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:31
ignore me, was expecting it to be it's own entry instead of nested in Warlord
Wait, no, that's just in the released version...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:32
Hold on I’ll go get on the computer
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:33
yeah, the Warlord Trait SSEG can't unhide because it's hidden based on being a child of "Warlord", rather than if the character has the "Warlord" category.
which is no longer the case in the new implementation.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:34
which ...isssss... .good? right!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:35
Several problems here. The local "Warlord" SSE doesn't have the Warlord category, so it won't validate properly in multi-faction rosters.
The Warlord Traits SSEG should be hidden if 0 selections of the warlord SSE, instead of the current "if parent not instance of Warlord"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:39
That wasn’t something I did so there’s that lol
I just split it out so that named characters only had their assigned traits
So I half-fixed it? Lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:41
The show/hide on the ones you did can't work either.
because they're triggering based on their parent, not if the parent has a selection.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:43
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:43
Damn lol
Ok
I’ll fix later
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 14:44
THAT MOMENT....when you realize you and your GF have taken over too many rooms in your house with your hobby projects.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:44
Lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:45
@CrusherJoe Uh huh .... There's no way in HELL that the GF takes any responsibility for this ! ... "YOU have too much stuff! .. it's getting in the way of MY stuff"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:45
I don’t have spare rooms to begin with lol
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 14:45
@alphalas, I have time now to sort it if you want?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 14:48
Sure go for it
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:48

I say this as a man who knows ... I have been begrudgingly installed in the GF's old holistic therapy room (See: Broom Closet) while she has the upstairs office, the other 2 spare rooms and of course the filing cabinets still in my room ...

But... I STILL have too much stuff !!

Grrrrr

sk_Father_Price_twitter @sk_Father_Price_twitter grumbles about if for a while before remembering I still want to be fed and sleep soundly without fear of retribution
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 14:55
Geebuz our house looks like an episode of Hobby Hoarders
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...my space
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...her space
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...the garage
NOT PICTURED: The other half of the garage, which is just a shameful collection of primed parts awaiting the gentle kiss of the airbrush (which happens for some of them today)
...wait, wrong pic for her space
20180525_094610.jpg
there we go
Like I said....effin' Hobby Hoarders lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 14:59
you have a LOT of glittery things
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:00
That's all her man
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 15:01
the devils dust ... how does it not contaminate your things
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:01
I think she has more glitter -- just glitter, mind you, not counting paints of various kinds -- than I do mini paints
You have no idea
Everywhere I go it looks like I just stepped out of a strip club
Or like maybe I just killed a stripper
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 15:02
an alibi you say
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:02
Pretty much
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 25 2018 15:03
woohoo .... early finish, my boss is the best ... have a great bank holiday weekend ma dudes !
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:04
Not that the GF would care if I went to a strip club (she wouldn't)...but she told me she's never be able to tell even if I did
Oddly enough, I've no desire to visit such places -- I went to SO MANY when I was on the road for High End. It's not fun anymore.
@sk_Father_Price_twitter grumbles about if for a while before remembering I still want to be fed and sleep soundly without fear of retribution
LOL
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:10
We have an agreement, her and I. We support each other in our hobby efforts, even if it means we take over half the house with them. It's a superb arrangement. Probably why we're still together and don't fight over stupid shit.
ALSO: you people with basements. How I envy you.
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 25 2018 15:13
I'm about to be one of those people :D
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:14
A basement owner? Congrats!
The geology of Austin really doesn't allow for them
Austin is basically 12" of topsoil over granite/bedrock
Sorry, granite and limestone
And if you go too far through the limestone you'll likely find a void (aka, a small cave)
Which is Nature's Basement, in a way
It's pretty cool, actually
Within 100 miles there's Innerspace Caverns, Longhorn Caverns and Natural Bridge Caverns
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe likes caves. :)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 15:17
I've been in several small caves in the area.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 15:18
There’s actually a semi-famous cave about a half mile down the road from me
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 15:18
@alphalas, #3016 needs more work than I thought. I'll finish it off later.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 15:18
:+1:
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 25 2018 15:40
@/all I've fixed CODEOWNERS, see #3153 :D
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 25 2018 15:43
@alphalas thought you fixed the SM warlord traits? @Mad-Spy just reopened it.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 15:43
I thought I did
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 25 2018 15:43
I can go thru them later today if needed.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 15:43
Apparently the way I did was wrong lol
flakpanda
@flakpanda
May 25 2018 15:44
I have just been busy lately.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 15:44
@Mad-Spy said he was working on it
I’m willing to be he’s balls deep on his local
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 15:44
I am. I'll get it finished later.
When I get home.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 16:18
Okay y'all, #3145
We've gotten several reports similar to this one, but I've
NEVER.
NOT.
ONCE.
...been able to reproduce it.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 16:36
Please check my comment in #3145 and let me know what you think
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 16:42
ALSO
Someone please, PLEASE explain to me how the current version of the AM file is v117 in my just-updated Roster Editor, but the verion in MASTER is v115?
Personally I blame @alphalas
Since he's the last one to change v#
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 17:07
I'll pick up the windstorm bugs, no worries, I believe the Drukhari ones are already fixed on the harlequin branch, hence when that is merged it'll be all groovy :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 25 2018 17:09
@CrusherJoe I think it's something to do with child forces. Try having AM as a child?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 17:09
You can't do that anymore....can you?
That would imply soup detachment
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 17:12
Not if it’s a child of DKoK or Elysian
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 17:28
...huh?
Okay so this is...bizarre
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 17:35
It IS a child detachment thing
And it appears to affect DKOK AND AM both]
tekton
@tekton
May 25 2018 17:44
@alphalas I really need to get my custodes and eldar done before the knight stuff...so much to paint, so little time
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 25 2018 17:56
@tekton I’m actually glad I sold my knights a few months ago; now I don’t feel the need at all to start a new army
Because I know I’ll probably get 1 game in with it ever
And that’s no bueno
tekton
@tekton
May 25 2018 17:57
my knight is on my shelf to put together
as are the two baby knights
but i need to get back to figuring out my list for august, it's just also possible it may include a Knight to go with grey knights now ;)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 17:58
BY THE WAY
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This makes me very, very happy
tekton
@tekton
May 25 2018 18:04
1750 is a very weird point value in the current setup; it actually makes guard and eldar even more powerful we've found, while making AdMech even worse
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 25 2018 19:31
@alphalas, @flakpanda, I've finished with #3016 if you want to review it before merging.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 25 2018 22:17
Just a quick update about harlequins, I've not managed to find any additional information than windstorm had already added to the file, so the harlequin branch is as good as it gets until the codex drops and I get a look at it for real... I'm off to bed, so it'll likely be tomorrow night before I can finish the update. Unless of course anyone else wants to jump on it before then
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 25 2018 23:17
Isn't tonight The Coming of The Great Harlie Quinn?
I'm known to be quite vexing.gif