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29th
May 2018
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 29 2018 08:10

@CrusherJoe

I entered the wrong issue #, fat fingered it

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Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 11:44
Anyone else watch any of the racing festivities this past weekend?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
May 29 2018 13:43
Yes, I went to Gurston Down Hillclimb with my wife and little boy. It was sunny, we had fun :smile: :+1:
Did you watch the F1?
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe didn't watch anything this weekend, not even Solo
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe did, however, paint some things, so that's good.
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe reads the new price list, and his eyes bulge out
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:49
HOOOOLEEEEEY SHEEEEEEET $170 for the Knight Dominus
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:51
That doesn't surprise me too much
Knight Warden is 140 isn't it?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:51
The new terrain is $40, Renegade is $195
Yeah, 140 sounds right
But still LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:52
30$ more for a much larger knight?
With both kits included?
kk
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:52
Right
Man GW has done their work well.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:52
Besides, 145~ after local shop discounts
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:53
We see that price, we don't wince or anything, maybe a shrug of something. "Seems about right." LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:53
Probably gonna grab the dominus, datacards, and possibly terrain on pre-order
Not gonna do Hekatur
Think i'm gonna grab him + the weapon bits on ebay
and just magnetize it
I don't need a 4th knight actual.
Same with the Armigers. Fuck I can have those bits printed
They're just phospor blasters from onagers.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:54
I don't see him on the release list
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:54
Hekatur?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:55
So is he gonna be part of Renegade
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:55
Doubtful
Dominus Rex is the Knight character
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:55
He shouldn't be part of Dominus
Canis Rex
He's wolfy
But not Space Wolves wolfy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:56
Canis Rex, right
But pic of the renegades box was the old ones
not his new plasma lance thing
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:57
And Canis Rex isn't a Dominus
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:57
so he'll be on his own - just maybe not first release week
Yea I know, I meant Canis - not Dominus
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:57
So I ask you...where is he? :worried:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:57
On his own?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:57
I suppose you're right
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:58
I imagine he'll just be another knight box
I'm kind of partially hoping the terrain doesn't have matched play points.
Maximizing Random shot counts. Re-loading the 1x missiles?
on the dominus?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:58
Oh god yes please.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 13:58
The range on that thing is nuts as is.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 13:59
The ROF on it will determine how useful the missiles are
If you can dump all of them at once, game on, if not, they drop into meh territory
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:00
I don't see why it wouldn't be all at once.
Stormsureg is.
*surge
"Dominus is equipped with 4x superbadass missiles"
is what i'm assuming
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:02
The good news is we should see some reviews this week -- hopefully with details on the terrain piece and if constant 3++ is a thing or not
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:02
3++ with 28 wounds would be ... bad
as much as i'd like it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:03
You say that.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:03
that thing would be so hard to take down
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:03
When was the last time you put a knight on the table?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:03
couple games ago? Admittedly that was about 2 months ago
ihaven't played in a while
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:03
They go down quicker than a discount stripper on Nickel Night
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:04
Yea, they do :/ that's why I rush them ahead and spend CP on hoping they explode :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:04
The last time I ran my Knight Army I did that too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:04
Standard op for my T-Vault too
Run it into a blob of units. Fire everything. IF it lives, awesome
if not, 4+ roll to super explode and fuck up your opponent's day
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:05
My last opponent in the GT was an Ork player. He charged a wounded Knight with Ghazzy. Yeah Ghazzy killed it...and then I rolled up a 6. The explosion killed Ghaz and 600-ish more points of Orks.
It was glorious
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:06
my dearest errata wish is to allow admech's auto explode strat to be used on questor mechanicus
I abuse the shit out of that sometimes
exploding onegers can do some work :p
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe nods
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 14:15
In fact I've killed thousands of points of Orks with exploding Knights
I keep a CP in the back pocket and fish for a 6 too LOL
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
May 29 2018 14:27
played a game versus my mates knights & friends .. about 4500 points each.. I will say they do NOT go down easy unless you take all the AT in the world, it was in fact a very fair game (Maybe by luck more than judgement) ended in a draw on points ... but I was moving in on T5 killing his final vindicare assassin hiding in a Macro cannon ... now that is some cheese right there ... (can shoot without penalty from any point of the model) and ignores invulns

he had 7 knights (one FW Lancer), 2 armigers and the assassins and the fortification ..

I had necrons by the bucket load

monolith evaporated when the lance charged it
DDA = Did Damn All !
destroyers - 16 of them I think = MVP
oh, and nothing exploded :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:33
Destroyers are amazing
I wish I had some
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 14:43
@FarseerVeraenthis I did yes, watched all of Monaco then flipped over to the 500
Monaco was... I have mixed feelings on that race
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 29 2018 14:49
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:51
I mean, he has his own car
why wouldn't he race it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
May 29 2018 14:52
My thoughts too! I supported his decision. Also, he didn't do bad at all for that short time he actually had the chance to drive. It was such a character-developing part.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 14:59
I like the watch captain relic blade shenanigans answer
No explanation
just, No
like stop being stupid
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 29 2018 15:00
they've already said elsewhere that you can't swap wargear twice, so it's not unexpected.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 15:00
yeah, terminator heavy weapons come to mind
i like the double shield captains though
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 15:02
What double shield captains?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 15:03
deathwatch termi captains can now take two storm shields for... reasons
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
May 29 2018 15:04
because some of the modelling options require it?
who knows
tekton
@tekton
May 29 2018 15:37
wait, a legit model can legit have two shields?! hmmm...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 15:39
i think space wolves have been able to do it since the original index errata
tekton
@tekton
May 29 2018 15:40
i'm assuming there's no benefit, but it would just look kind of awesome
"No, right here the rules say it's wysiwyg..."
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 15:41
yeah, it's just amusing to think about a terminator running around trying to hit people with a dustbin lid in each hand
tekton
@tekton
May 29 2018 15:52
like a dual-(shield)-wielding paladin in D&D 3.5 (which with enough finagling was legit and legal)!
my four favorite words in this article
"Even More Devestating Detonations"
Miniature Volcano Cannon conrifmred :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 16:41
also Joe - good call, 1 missile per turn
tekton
@tekton
May 29 2018 16:50
I'm not sure if the Corvus Blackstar Infernum halo-launcher change is a nerf or a buff...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:07
GW confirmed 2 boxes for the dominus's apparently
that's ... disappointing
#3186 ... that's gotta be one of you guys
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 17:09
i hope it is, but i dont expect so
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 29 2018 17:14
Jesus people are impatient
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:14
This is surprising....how?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
May 29 2018 17:14
"DW FAQ is out why isn't this updated?!?"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 17:14
@Kohato having fun trying to temper one of my locals? Lol
Aeviaan is one of my childhood friends lol
We literally grew up playing 40k with each other lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:17
Is that who put that in?
Also ... I'm hoping recasters get the dominus weapons casted quick. It's actually really damn disappointing those are two boxes.
The only difference is primary weapons
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 17:18
No talking about reddit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:18
Ohhh
Hah
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 17:18
The dude who is upset about missile strat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:18
Yea
It's an overreaction. The missiles, from what we know so far, shouldn't be taken on more than 1 hardpoint
and to waste 2CP every turn to target one character for an average 4damage?
Feel free to do that lol.
From what I see, the only thing those missiles hard counter is a banana boy ... which is fine by me if you're taking a 600+ point unit to do so
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:21
Oh I dunno
Pretty much every elf character -- no matter what flavor -- only has an invul
Meat Mountain got you down? Execute that haemonculus making them T6 then send in the bikers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:22
That's true, didn't think about aeldari
I still don't think we'll see that being used every turn. Once to snipe that key character and hope for a high damage roll
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:23
Far/Shadowseer or Warlock keeps feeding you Jinx/Guide/Doom/whatever elf cheese? Feed him a Shieldbreaker and he'd better hope his spirit stones are up to date
I :heart: it
I can't wait to put them on the table
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:25
Them? As in 2?
You monster.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:25
And I really can't wait to slaughter some drew carey elves with them
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 17:26
oh god, dont talk to me about shadowfields
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:26
We'll see about points -- but if I can do it you betcha I'll have banana biker bois and 2x Monster Knights
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 17:27
played a 2k game against a queso player. didnt put a single wound on any of his archons, depsite running three chimeras and their payloads into them
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:27
You call me a monster? Okay, I'll own that. :smile: But I'm a monster that's sick of shit not dying like it's supposed to when I shoot it.
And if you haven't played against Meat Mountain...just wait. You'll wish you have an army that ignores invuls with every damned shot.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:29
You mean DG? :smile:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:29
And Meat Mountain with either Alaitoc air support or a Tantalus? Yeah...just wait. You'll be right where I am today I gare-ron-tee it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:30
See the Raven household?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:30
No I mean 10 Grotesques with a Haemonculus giving them T6 and 4 or 5 Dissie Ravagers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:30
Advance and fire
Take that on the Harpoon knight
hoooo boy
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:33
That harpoon gives me wood but I :heart: the baby volcano cannon
Disappointed on the damage, tho
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 17:33
@Kohato that’s mark’s (aeviaan)perspective- he’s an aeldari player
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:34
Also I'm curious about the "lightweight battle cannon" mentioned as an option for hardpoints
It's about time there was something to blast effing elf buffers to atoms
Especially considering all the -1 to hit crap they can stack up to the ceiling
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:35
Siegebreaker cannons
48" Heavy 2d3, S7/-1/D3
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:36
Oh, okay. I misread that. I thought they were calling out the lightweight battle cannon as a third option
Oh well LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:36
Ahh
no just the two options
for 3 hardpoints
Which is why I'm really baffled at the 2 boxes.
Literally everything is the same except those two arm weapons.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:39
I see on Reddit someone said GW confirmed two boxes, but I don't see where
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:39
Comments of their FB post
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:39
Ah
Well that's unfortunate
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:40
But that ULTIMATE FLAMER CANNON makes me smile. C'mere, Aliatoc Crimson Hunter, I got something for ya...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:40
mmhmm
toasty
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:40
I like toast
Especially liberally slathered with Exarch Jelly.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:46
Oh, reddit reminds me.
Necrons are pretty much immune to that harpoon
as I will never roll higher than 10 for Quantium :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:48
Yep
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 17:49
do 6s not fail by default?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:52
Oh good call, they might now
they didn't used to
nope.
That was not changed
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:54
Yeah Necrons are immune to it
Eh
Whatevs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 17:54
Pelt them down with the siegenbreakers
6d3 shots at S7
Unless you get horribly unlucky and roll 3dmg for all hits and they roll 1/2 for all saves.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
May 29 2018 17:55
Burn them out with the flamer cannon of fiery doomy death
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 18:38
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Whelp, looks like recaster/ebay it is
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 18:50
That’s bonkers
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 18:50
ayup
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 18:59
didnt FW learn this lesson a long time ago?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 19:00
Now I gotta decide which kit to buy and source the other weapons :/
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 19:00
hence why all their big models are chassis and weapons as individual items
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 19:02
Yeah but that works for FW
Wouldn’t really work for GW plastics
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
May 29 2018 19:06
why not? if each weapon is an individual sprue, why cant they package them separately?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 19:13
because people expect to be able to buy a complete model in 1 box
if you make it that they have to buy 3 boxes in a physical store that’s really bad for merchandising
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 19:17
Is it though?
With the right advertising it would make for rather happy collectors.
"Add-On Kits for Knight Dominus" "Perfect for Magnet Enthusiests!"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 19:24
I just can't see an upside to forcing a second knight chasis on someone who wants to have options available
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 19:25
ok sure, if the box came with 2 arms standard; but the FW model is no arms, which would be bad imo
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
May 29 2018 19:26
Ohh that, yea
that's a bad way to go
I mean each dominus box as is, then "Knight Dominus Weapon Sprues"
as a small hanging box for shelfspace.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
May 29 2018 19:27
That could work
but what @GenWilhelm was sugesting would be bad