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12th
Jun 2018
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 03:36
@alphalas - wasn't battle brothers a beta rule?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 03:39
yep
so if you're not using betas, you can still soup things
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 03:40
I assume it will be legit come fall FAQ, but #3248 is valid for now :(
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 12 2018 03:40
It’s still possible if you use the child logic afaik
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 03:40
actually it will be valid then, they have the Astra Telepathica keyword
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 03:41
Oh, it is?
Then fuck all - he can use that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 03:41
to @alphalas comment I mean
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 12 2018 03:42
@Kohato should be; I don’t see why he couldn’t using the GST vanguard instead of the SoS vanguard
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 12 2018 06:35
@WindstormSCR that's an impressive force for sure!!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 12:59
@amis92 new scripts?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 12 2018 13:33
Yeah, those?
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 13:33
yea
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 12 2018 13:33
These are from BSData/catalogue-development: https://github.com/BSData/catalogue-development/blob/master/scripts
It's what I've been talking about over on https://gitter.im/WarHub/wham - AppVeyor CI builds that will generate artifacts (.bsr file for each push)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 13:37
oh awesome
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 12 2018 13:41
Yeah, I think so :D Check out: WarHub/wh40k#1 - when you click Show all checks you can open either Details and go to Artifacts tab - there a .bsr with all datafiles is ready to download and import into BattleScribe. Perfect for mobile testing. Yay!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 12 2018 14:39
@WindstormSCR the more I look at your army laid out on the table the more I want to get all my dudes out and do a "group shot" of them
what would your Eldar army look like??
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 15:19
I'm happy my group shots would all be small.
I play too little to have the armies I have anyway lol
They mostly all fit in a single drawer each. Save for the Knights ... Allerielle ... and my T-Vault.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 15:33
Hmm. 3 Admech Snipers, and Ironstorm Missile Pods on 2 wardens, or no missile pods, 2 snipers, and 2 Armiger Warglaives?
I'm thinkin the warglaives
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 15:56
@FarseerVeraenthis I'll do a group shot of them at some point, probably when I next start working on paint for them again
@Kohato warglaives at least get you the character in a lance
then you can spend for just a relic if you only want a relic
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:09
@Kohato So oddities with the Imperial Knight “custom houses” House traditions ...
If you select a radio button ... it immediately changes that selection to “House Tradition: None”
So, prior to the selection the name is “House Tradition: Oathkeepers” select it, and it changes to “House Tradition: None”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:13
Hmm.
that's a holdover from some ... other logic
And I can't remember why
but I remember doing it
I'll take a gander
Oh, do you have it in an aux detachment?
Cause they select houses (for relics/WT), but don't get traditions
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:16
Yep... That would be it.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:16
I knew I had that in there for a reason
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:17
It might make more sense to set it hidden if in an Aux detachment?
Because it certainly felt like “whack-a-mole”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:17
The profiles are hidden for the abilities
It's set that way to try to adhere to "No selection should present the user with an error"
to hide it when in aux, I have to have min0 or it will present an error. but if I set it to min0, it's another error because you HAVE to have a household in superheavy
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:19
But it is still listed as a minimum selection of 1 in validation for Tradition
So you have to select a Tradition. Even if you select the House as custom
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:22
Hmm alright
I'll play around, see if I can hide it without presenting errors in the actual superheavy one
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:23
And that gives the whack a mole Tradition:None.
Perhaps an ancestor is instance of?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:23
Yea, that's how it is now
Like I said - the attempt was to make auto adds
so there are no errors when selecting "Household Selection"
I'll have to remove that and just have an error saying you need one in a superheavy
Which is fine, just ... less pretty
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:24
Hmm.
Can you set all of the other traditions to hidden, and do the name change If ancestor is instance of aux?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:26
Hmm so it auto adds the none?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 18:26
Or create a Tradition: None that is hidden unless it is instance of Aux?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:26
That's not a bad idea
I'll poke around real quick
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 18:40
So I apparently had the logic in for that scenario
and had not placed an ancestor not superheavy
so .. fixed.
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There - all set for whenever a release is. No rush since it's not list breaking ... just annoying
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 20:22
@kohato :+1:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 20:53
Bulls on Parade.PNG
The amount of stuff you can cram in with the new Knights is ridiculous
Also, not sure what time but I'm doing an exhibition game with the new knights vs meat mountain on Bell of Lost Souls Twitch channel Thursday evening
I thoroughly expect to get my ass handed to me
So nobody laugh at me too loud LOL
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 12 2018 20:58
Oh I will laugh long and hard lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 20:58
But look at that list
LOOK AT IT
That's ridiculous
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 12 2018 21:03
That’s like 13CP?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 21:03
Yes sir
10 CP left over for the game after purchasing 2 WLT and 2 Relics
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 12 2018 21:16
I like the name too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 21:22
@CrusherJoe give us a shoutout when you do :P
I'm debating getting a small set of mechanicus Rangers to make a chaff/screen battalion with that can still be useful
To go with my deathwatch
It would give me something besides intercessors or missile vets to camp backfield objectives with
Also more CP
Stygies VII dogma
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 12 2018 21:33
good god. 10 cp, and still buying 2 extra WT/Relics
That's nasty
I want to see how well it does
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 21:35
Battalions offering 5cp is crazy good for deathwatch, my current "serious games" DW/AdM list is sitting at 19cp
3 battalions, 1vanguard
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 23:42
@WindstormSCR you know I'm gonna say something about my BScribe Fam
@Kohato well
This is the steaming cheese stew I'll be playing against

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [39 PL, 651pts] ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Prophets of Flesh

  • HQ +

Haemonculus [5 PL, 76pts]: Electrocorrosive whip, Splinter Pistol

Urien Rakarth [5 PL, 90pts]

  • Troops +

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

Wracks [3 PL, 45pts]
. Acothyst: Haemonculus tools
. 4x Wracks

  • Elites +

Grotesques [20 PL, 350pts]
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver
. Grotesque: Flesh Gauntlet, Monstrous cleaver

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [48 PL, 966pts] ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Kabal of the Black Heart

  • HQ +

Archon [4 PL, 76pts]: Huskblade, Labyrinthine Cunning, Splinter pistol, Warlord (Archon), Writ of the Living Muse

  • Heavy Support +

Ravager [7 PL, 125pts]: Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon, Disintegrator cannon

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Ravager [7 PL, 140pts]: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

Tantalus [18 PL, 400pts]

  • Dedicated Transport +

Raider [5 PL, 85pts]: Dark Lance

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Aeldari - Drukhari) [18 PL, 382pts] ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Detachment Attribute: Cult of Strife

  • HQ +

Lelith Hesperax [4 PL, 80pts]: Impaler

Succubus [4 PL, 54pts]: Agoniser, Archite Glaive

  • Troops +

Wyches [4 PL, 94pts]
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
. 7x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

Wyches [4 PL, 109pts]
. Hekatrix: Agoniser, Blast Pistol, Phantasm Grenade Launcher
. 6x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Razorflails

Wyches [2 PL, 45pts]
. Hekatrix: Hekatarii blade, Splinter pistol
. 3x Wych
. Wych with Wych Weapon: Shardnet and impaler

++ Total: [105 PL, 1999pts] ++

Sorry text is the only format I've got it in
Behold: Meat Mountain
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 23:47
I'm 0-3 against some version or the other of that list
And that includes my standard list
My mostly-Custodes list
And now we're gonna try Knights LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 23:49
no talos
not a true meat mountain
razor meatloaf maybe, but not true meat mountain
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 23:55
Trust me
Those Emprah-damned Grotes are enough
Ugh
I hateses them
Elves are supposed to die when I shoot them
When I unload a battle cannon into a unit they should lose more than 2 or 3 dudes LOL
But the tantalus and ravagers must die first
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 23:57
what house are you using
just take hawkshroud and a castellan
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 23:57
Hawkshroud
Don't have a Castellan, and it's on Twitch so no proxies
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 12 2018 23:58
then use an errant or crusader with stormspears
and nuke the thing
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 12 2018 23:59
I plan on emptying everything into the tantalus with everything I've got until it's dead, dead, dead
I figure between the knights and the vulture punisher I should kill it pretty fast