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17th
Jun 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 00:49
assaultbacks are indeed excellent
my preferred DW transport at lower points
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 00:59
I think 3 are going to be in my GK list going forward after the last two weeks
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 01:10
@/all question I don't think I've ever asked or if it was answered I don't remember, what's our position on including common houserules provided they are clearly flagged and hidden by default?
in this particular case, multiple requests for DW apothecary/techmarine
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 17 2018 01:11
I believe it was no.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 01:11
thoughts on doing so provided it required a flag/practice similar to "use beta rules"?
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 01:12
Differing questions ::
Where’s the line/limit?
How is that different from the “custom” Land Raiders?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 17 2018 01:15
@WindstormSCR if @amis92 won’t let me have a repo for the HH 8e project, no house rules/fandexes
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 01:16
different but related question:
and more of a datafile developer thing
since missing library links in 2.02 fail over quietly, is it permitted to include a link to a custom library (in this case deathwatch) that will simply never trigger to the majority of the general public?
since missing files and links simply get skipped
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 01:22
I'd rather have an open discussion about it than just simply try it out and not say anything
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 01:46
Ok three games done, went 2-1
@WindstormSCR the deathwatch list for my second round (had to play a different army each round) just annihilated the chaos player I was against...assault squads are nasty!
AdMech with a castellan knight lost 21-4 points; but the knight was fun
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 01:51
I lost a leviathan to a valiant harpoon today
it was sad
12w left after 2 got plinked off, then BANG
roll a 3 on the invuln, reroll to a 2, get hit with 10w +2 mortals
on the plus side, it skullfucked the valiant with cyclonic lance and melta before it died, and I killed all 5 knights present in that game
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 02:12
Well done!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 17 2018 03:06
as for custom land raiders, those are gw produced rules
homebrew rules are not
As for that custom library link
As long as the final product of 2.02 does skip over invalid links without issue
I don't see that as a problem - we'd simply not be hosting that library here.
In your specific case - it's not a simple homebrew rule or ability. It's entire units that are not supported by GW at this time.
It's no different than adding Codex: Angry Marines.
But as above - since 2.02 skips over invalid library links - leaving one in to an outside library cat that we dont host should be no issue i'd think
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 05:04
yeah, I'd test it thoroughly before using it, I just need to find a way to get the extra cat onto a mobile device (iOS)
ShadowsofVanity
@ShadowsofVanity_twitter
Jun 17 2018 05:50
well the new battlescribe deleting my lists automatically when I tried to open them sucked...
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jun 17 2018 06:40
@ShadowsofVanity_twitter are you talking about 2.02? If so, it's a beta and it's a separate app from the main channel one.
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 15:55
Speaking of Vect, we played with a variation today where you can spend 1CP to cancel Vect (before it’s d6 is rolled), but the DE player doesn’t spend the 3CP and can use it again this turn. Made it feel less broken at least.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 16:33
tbh, instead of a pure cancel, it should be like the callidus
forcing the player to choose "Pay extra CP, or the effect fails & the initial CP is refunded"
with AoV costing 2/3 CP, 2 CP to increase the cost by 1, 3CP to increase the cost by 2, limited use to once per player turn
more of an overhaul, but its less binary
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 17 2018 16:35
1-2 extra CP might help dramatically, and/or discourage the automatic reroll CP expenditure too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 16:36
basically the biggest problem with AoV is how often it can be used, and how there is no choice forced, it just turns things off
so the best solution is to have it force a choice on the other player: spend more resources, or let the effect fail
and then have it limited to how often it can be used, to keep it a trump card and not "use this on anything important until all my CP is gone"
tekton
@tekton
Jun 17 2018 17:06
May try that Tuesday then
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 17 2018 17:41
I don't know how I feel about that either @tekton
Not that it doesn't help - it clearly offers a way out of vect
Just ... that whole thing makes playing against DE feel unfun.
"I have fun things too, but now I have to hold back CP just to counter the threat of your strategems existance"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 19:10
@Kohato better than "I need to assume my critical /army build defining strat won't work
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 17 2018 19:45
Neither are healthy choices for the game.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 20:20
the proposed change is healther than "shit certain armies NEED to work, don't work cap'n"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 17 2018 21:35
So from Dallas Open GT (where several of my friends are this weekend)
Top 10 breakdown:
Drukhari 3
Tau 2
Custodes 1
Orks 1
Ynnari 1
GSC 1
Muhreens 1
It's official: Porn Elves are the new bullshit
:+1:
it's actually 3.5 -- the Ynnari player had a sizable detachment of them
Highest placing guard? 17. lulz
And they were Catachan (which evidently a big ol' blob of rambo-wanna-bees with Stra-rapin' and a priest are the way to go there)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 17 2018 21:40
So...yay? Guard can finally be left alone LOL
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 21:44
what % of the other imperial placers were IG
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 17 2018 22:55
I dunno
The only imperial placer was Custodes and I don't remember if Colin runs a CP farm or not
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 17 2018 23:46
my bet is yes