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26th
Jun 2018
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 00:12
discount
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 00:18
@CrusherJoe that the same coat each pic? Cause I'm digging the first one
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 01:18
I feel like I should be prepping an army for next ITC season...figure I’d go with a better more powerful army than Grey Knights. ...so AdMech it is!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 01:20
why not just fall to chaos and go full daemons
or go for something different in playstyle entirely and get the vect elves
Hugh
@Tigerwraith
Jun 26 2018 01:25
well that bites, didnt know the Arimgers were 2 seperate boxes and not a multi-part kit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 01:26
Ayup
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:16
@WindstormSCR if I were to go Xenos it would be back to Tau (I still have the first battlebox to finish from the day it came out...I just can't, even after all these years, get myself to make Kroot). Or Biel-Tan Eldar...helping a friend with his dark eldar and it's just not making me go, "oh, i want those!" like the green and white fire prisms
plus if i go AdMech it's even easier to go Knights!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 04:22
Anyone here play nurgle deamons and want a plaugehulk?
I have one laying around taking up space that I need gone
Also a new style tau barracuda
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:28
don't you tempt me...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 04:44
The cuda? $40 and it’s yours - it’ll fit really nice into the box with your land raider lol
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:46
...sounds good. Hey @WindstormSCR looks like I'm playing tau next
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 04:46
Lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:47
@Kohato yes it's the same spoon, same state, only the lighting was different
The overhead shop/daylight bulbs in the garage were washing it out
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:48
those came out pretty nice
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:48
Check that video I just posted for how they came out
I'm pleased considering I've never attempted anything like that before
The small armor plates on the Armigers...proably weren't the best choice to try out/show off a new technique like that though LOL
Also next time I'll not use VMA Gunmetal as the first metal color -- start with Chainmail then highlight with Silver
Aaaaand probably do less coats LOL
It got dark pretty quick
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:51
i found that on some smaller things runefang steel as a base worked out really well...for some reason better than stormhost silver
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:51
Huh
Okay
Sure, why not? lol
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:52
the "candy" coating just build well on top of it, and since it was small the brighter base kept it more even
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 04:52
runefang has higher reflectance properties but a darker pigment
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:52
Ah.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 04:52
since its mostly for bright layer while stormhost is an edge
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:52
Yeah, that'll do it
So
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:52
yup, that
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:53
Now that I have a glassy surface that I need to paint
(armor trim, etc.)
Should I go over it with a matte medium or something similar?
I kinda feel like I should go over all of it with a satin finish anyway
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 04:55
i would think matte would be a bit counter productive?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:56
Not over the candy sections
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 04:56
if you mean painting detail on top of the candy layer, you shouldn't need to do anything
a lot of the shine is because the surface is self-leveling to a smooth finish
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 04:57
Right on
It will probably be entertaining to paint, but not impossible
Anyone have experience with doing oil washes?
I can't remember if you have to spray on a varnish before you do the wash or after or both
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 05:00
i've seen people do both...which isn't helpful at all
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 05:11
Well since you used future to make your candy I’d think you can wash over that
Because people usually use future as a gloss varnish
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 06:29
True
Except this isn't for the candy parts LOL
This is oil washing over the metallic frame parts of the Armigers
I use 3 different kinds of Rub-n-Buff to achieve a metal I like...but just slathering on the Nuln Oil looks
So
...much like slathered on Nuln Oil
So, I gave it a brown oil wash after spraying the frames with Dull Kote
Gonna let it dry overnight and then clean up anything that doesn't tickle my fancy then Kote it again and call that part of the project done
And @alphalas as we've discussed I'm allergic to gloss varnishes of any kind for my whole model LOL
Since my luck with matte varnishes/Dull Kote/matte spray isn't exactly what I would call "stellar" (unless you're classifying the level of FAIL involved most of the time)
Anyway...up too late painting stuff.
Again.
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sighs and reluctantly goes to bed.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 07:31
you dudes, seriously.
Talking about all that fancy stuff and doing all that fancy things and painting all fancy while I yesterday managed to break my blockage and basecoated a single sicaran infiltrator in 1,5 hours and it still sucks.
Guys.... xD
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 26 2018 08:49
painting is painting... that's what I tell myself anyway... It doesn't matter how much you get done, as long as you paint SOMETHING that's good progress :smile:
I've taken on a bit of a painting project for myself - I will have all of my Deathwatch models painted by the end of the year.
well, all of the Deathwatch models I currently own, that are listed on my progress tracker that is
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 09:06
on a scale of 1 to russia doesnt cheat during wm, how likely is that? :P
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 11:00
Hey @Thairne at least that’s not as fruitless as my current quest; a buddy gave me a sicaran that’s compl
Damn phone
Complete except for that it’s missing the left hull side
Nobody sells just one hull side
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:11
uh
that...
why... how...
Well 2 ways... buy a recast and hope the best or try cheekily asking FW for a hull side?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 26 2018 11:11
@Thairne hence the qualifier :smile: although, I actually would like to get back to my Eldar once I've finished the Deathwatch so, who knows - perhaps this will be my chance to overcome my CMBS...!?!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:12
CMBS? Completely mistreated bastard son? Dude i wasnt even aware...
did you name him John?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 11:13
@Thairne well right now I’m asking my chinaman if he can get me just a side and how much that’ll cost me
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:14
: le gasp:
But that is le illegal xD
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 11:15
I guess I could try FW and be like “hey, I got this sicaran from a friend who got it in a lot at an auction or something, it’s missing a side; any way I can get just a side for it from you? Lol
@Thairne yes yes lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:15
well I've heard a LOT of good stuff about FW CS... so...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 11:15
Yeah it’s worth a shot I guess
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:18
once I get through my backlog (so not anytime soon) I might peek my lil eye at a assault drill and some secutarii... I might want to ask a friendly china man for that too
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 11:26
but first I need to basecoat a second infiltrator today. Go me!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 11:33
lol
Well that’s surprising lol - I already got a response from FW
They said no-can-do, it’s a logistical nightmare but I’m impressed I actually got a response lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:36
@Thairne Asking the chinaman for it isn't illegal. What he's doing on the other hand ...
China has a very loose definition of copywrite anyway :p
"I can copy this, right?"
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 26 2018 12:40
@Thairne Compulsory Model Buying Syndrome :tongue:
It's that little voice which says "I must buy it, it's a bargain / less than retail / rare / I haven't got one / I neeeeed one / it looks really pretty..." pretty much whenever you see some models for sale
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:44
Also, Valliant weapon sprues for far cheaper than ebay :p
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:46

@alphalas Yup... I can see that. Casting only half of a model is probably beyond GW CS :P
@Kohato So asking someone to murder your ex-wife aint illegal, but the actual murder is? I'll have to remeber that lil tidbit :P
@FarseerVeraenthis OOOH I know. EVERYTIME I step into my FLGS (which I didnt step into for a long time now) I always wander in that special corner. See the box. Feel the box. Hug the box. Struggle to put the box away, thinking of all the shit piling up at home. Leave store with 2 pots o' paint.

Whats with that valiant weapons? DId they pull another knight thing on those with only half the weapon options? I hated that in Renegade, but I made due...

Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:47
The valliant and castellan are slightly different hulls
Like ... different railings.
But yes, each is a separate box
Same with helverins/warglaives
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:49
the basterds! Going with 1/2/4 I need to double on my knights and need 8 gnome knights to have both big variants? Jesus rick, I dont know about this one..
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:49
Or you talk to Alpha and he talks to his bejing friends.
:p
Or go with bitsworld's ebay auctions - which are hitting 40$ for each dominus weapon and 30 for 2 helverin guns.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:51
I once had the email of Z.
The material price of those wouldnt worry me TOO much... its rather the thing that I have my 2 knights pro painted by DOI and if I have those 2 pro painted I want the others pro painted to match... so thats like an easy 4000$ in painting services
and I'd probably want a warhound to top the valiant/castellan
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:52
That's fair, every list needs a Warhound
to round it out
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:52
then I'd need 2 warhounds for a Reaver...and if I ever eye a warlord I'll file bancruptcy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:52
But, if you DO get a warlord
you can motorize it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:52
emperor-class or go home.
but then I need a to-scale BFG destroyer to top the emperors... does this ever end?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:53
Someone's been posting his progress on motorizing a warlord's weapons.
controlled via tablet.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 12:53
I'm having the weirdest boner right now.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 12:54
It sounds like you should just convert your entire car to a battle-barge
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 13:11
well
I DO already own a Macro Cannon, if you catch my drift :trollface:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 13:24
I don't. You'll need to elaborate fully.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 13:39
well you ever head of diesel gate? Average car emits about the same amount of toxic & nauseaus gases and smoke as a macro cannon shot.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jun 26 2018 13:41
Well that's far less dirty than I thought this was going.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 13:47
you could say I dodged the macro cannon shell.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 26 2018 14:22
So, have any of you competitive or Tourney attending types come across some updated & errata'd rules for terrain?
Having an issue getting my head around how a solid building / ruin offers no benefit to a tank ... noting as per the FAQ that a copse of dead wood offers +1 to the baneblade skulking behind it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:23
Which FAQ? The Big FAQ?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 14:23
@sk_Father_Price_twitter nope, 8th ed terrain rules are a sack of shit
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:23
Because AFAIK there have been zero changes to terrain/cover
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 26 2018 14:24
main FAQ of BRB ... says page 248 change the last para of woods to say 'other' models only need to hide behind a twig
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:24
And @WindstormSCR speaks the TRUTH! Preach!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 14:24
@CrusherJoe at my local we use LoS straight for vehicles, the only improvement I think 8th made was just infantry in the terrain or not to get it, saves a lot fo arguing
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 26 2018 14:25
I know ... and it completely contradicts itself moving from basic - units 'Entirely within' to advanced ... 'somethings' to FAQ and errata ... 'no no .. it works some other way'
not looking for a 'gotcha' just some sanity that some one has applied the FAQs to the rules and come out with a clearly defined set of rules that have the backing of GW
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:26
Also: @FarseerVeraenthis there is no cure for CMBS LOL, none! But you can go into a period of recovery... I call that time "sleeping".
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 14:27
@sk_Father_Price_twitter look at the Cities of Death terrain rules
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 26 2018 14:28
@alphalas in main book ?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 14:28
Yup
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jun 26 2018 14:30
looking now ... only really covers infantry
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:31
Yeah vehicles are hosed for cover in 8th
I mean...I get it, after the horseshit that was toe in cover in 7th they wanted to something, ANYTHING other than that. But I think they seriously overcorrected and I wonder when , or even if, they'll fix it.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 26 2018 14:42
@CrusherJoe nice :sleeping: yeah, I've got bills to pay... My "to do" pile is large enough, I've decided to take a stand and actually get some models painted - and then (shush) possibly actually play some games, or even (whisper) enter a tournament with them
also, my wife found some of my tanks (NIB, with shrink wrap) that I have hidden in my wardrobe - she was surprised. Then I told her about my box of unbuilt models which has been hiding in plain sight and... let's just say that justifying buying any more models at the moment will be challenging
well, when I say "I told her" - she asked "what's in that box" and I couldn't lie
once I get some stuff painted then I can indulge my CMBS 100% - because I'll NEED more models to paint!!! hahahahahahah!!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:45
So very true
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jun 26 2018 14:46
@sk_Father_Price_twitter CoD does improve ruins for vehicles thought
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 14:46
The problem with CoD is you have all those other rules that go along with it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 17:35
I at least have assembled everything I've got
painted is another matter, but 99% of it is at least primer/basecoat
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jun 26 2018 18:33
Yeah, I'm captain indecisive when it comes to weaponry and I don't have time/effort/options to magnetise everything...
Speaking of which, can anyone suggest a good source for left hand chainswords??
(or other left hand "things")
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 19:35
the Mk IV/III marines
all thier weapons are lefthand
fopr CCW
also devastator box sgt weapons
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 19:44
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It pleases me.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 19:44
lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jun 26 2018 20:54
I painted a second infiltrator! Go me, at that rate I get a a squad a week!
rolls neck I need to improve my posture tho...
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jun 26 2018 20:56
The complete removal of the White Dwarf digital subscription, however, makes me rather seriously annoyed.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jun 26 2018 21:35
wut
tekton
@tekton
Jun 26 2018 22:28
That was my reaction this morning too!
Basically it's a 'You have to hold onto physical copies, because we're too stuffed to just do a digital version just like we do our normal publications ... because epub3's are too hard."
(And digital was 50% cheaper ... so we got you for more money....)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jun 26 2018 22:56
I mean, at least they did offer double the remaining sub value in vouchers, so you can get the rest of the physicals for the same cost if you chose
better than some companies