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11th
Jul 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:06
So I can't figure out what to do with Mah List
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:27
whats the issue?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:27
So good and bad things
Good: The Gallant. He's a fucking rock star
I played against a guy with 2 crusaders (with thermal guns) and a valiant
Outflanked in and murdered first Crusader, ducked behind a building to limit visibility
I had two shieldfuckers between his knights and my Gallant
He charged them both. One died, one lived (3++ is still really, really good)
I moved over an inch and now both of his knights were locked
Charged both knights with the gallant, fought twice, 2 dead knights
That's baller
But next game I got overwhelmed by a Guard/shieldfuckers/smashfuckers list
I only lost by two points...but that was because I lost my guard to sang guard and everything else was tied up killing smashfuckers and shieldfuckers that were running rampant in my DZ
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:35
you running triple knights?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:35
Taranis is a real pain in the butt, but also a wellspring of BGH/Titan Slayers points LOL
No, just the one
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:35
armigers?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:35
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The scions are out. I forgot to bring them in. Twice. They were wasted points.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:36
how much work does the vulture put in
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:37
The Vulture has been promoted from Aeronautica Imperialis to Officio Assanatorum
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:37
I see
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:37
Nothing kills smashfuckers like forcing them to make 20 saves
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:38
cyclops?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jul 11 2018 01:38
He either did nothing or was a bright shining little star of death
(as per usual)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 01:39
since you have to replace the scions with bodies, just go 2 min infantry squads to provide more roadblocks/screening
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 12:22
Dominus is finally built - ready for magnets once the valliant bits arrive :)
I'm not sure if the entire arm bits are included so holding off on chopping til then
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 12:57
I'm looking forward to building a castellan in a few weeks
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:00
T'was a standard knight, but seemed easier than my questoris class ones.
If you're magnetizing, once my bits arrive i'll let you know the magnet sizes needed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 13:04
depends on how it's done I guess
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:09
Carapace is simple, just like a questoris ... but x3
The arms seem the same, but until I know what is included with the valliant bits, i'm not sure where to magnetize
Ideally, Z also cast the shoulder bits and I don't even need to magnetize. Just an easy twistlock.
But that may be too much hope :p
tekton
@tekton
Jul 11 2018 13:13
The arms can’t really twist on and out once the carapace is glued in place of the weapons are glued to the upper arm :(
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:14
Not enough clearance with the shoulder pad?
tekton
@tekton
Jul 11 2018 13:14
All the magnet sizes are pretty much the same as the questoris knights
Yeah the angle is just slightly off with the should pads in place- I just put magnets in the shoulder socket and clipped down the Nubs that do the twist lock
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:16
Bah, there goes my hope of easy weapon swaps.
Oh well.
Now I need to find a recaster who makes FW knight weapons.
Have my 3 Questoris, 1 dominus, and an armory of weapons all magnetized. That'd make a kickass display board
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 13:18
well, FW knight weapons and the elbow bit you need from the regular kit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:20
say again?
Oh you mean each one needs the elbow bit from the normal kit
Gotcha.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 13:20
they use the weapon pivot peice from the paladin
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 13:20
I can probably cast that myself as well.
Small bit like that, bluestuff would be fine I'd think
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jul 11 2018 15:09
magnetise the armour panels instead? then you can remove them and still do the twist lock
tekton
@tekton
Jul 11 2018 16:12
@CloverFox I did that first, and it didn’t look quite right and wasn’t very stable when playing- so far the magnets have worked better for posing and transport just in the arm socket ;)
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jul 11 2018 16:25
:thumbsup:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 19:53
sigh
#3345 - I can't do what I want that is entirely wrong, so I can't wait for the army list builder application.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 11 2018 20:03
Yeah it’s not for every 3 you can have 1, it’s 1 hd, need at least 2 for it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 20:07
ayup.
But he double checked.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jul 11 2018 20:23
Yup
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OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 11 2018 21:05
@Kohato @alphalas I'm running into similar situation with an issue over on AoS. BSData/warhammer-age-of-sigmar#560
Stormvermin were marked as 'changed' in the most recent Handbook release. And their max in unit was dropped, but the points remained identical at max.
So, it went from max size 40 to Max Size 30, but the 'horde discount' stayed at 500 points.
RAW ... a unit of 30 should be 500 points.... I suppose my question might be, should the catalog be configured that a 'max size unit of 30 costs 500?'?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Jul 11 2018 21:20
(Given that the current points per unit of 10 would be 140 or amusingly enough 420 for 30.)
I'm not entirely sure what they were smoking to be honest when they came up with the numbers.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jul 11 2018 22:32
Go with the cheaper.
And then should you feel cheeky - add a "Horde Pricing" min0/max1 that costs 80
that is hidden unless there are 30 in the unit
Bam, both options satisfied
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jul 11 2018 23:47
@OftKilted I like kohato's suggestion, allows common sense and raw
similar to a fix we put in for eldar autarchs a while back
Hugh
@Tigerwraith
Jul 11 2018 23:58
LoL even in the AoS app it jumps from 280 for 20 to 500 for 30 stormvermin