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13th
Aug 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 03:51
To be fair it's not like they could get much more mediocre
They teeter on the precipice of worthless as it is. It's disgusting and sad.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 04:38
In other news
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Finally taking shape...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 04:52
Now in case you didn't know
Posing a Cerastus is a gigantic pain in the ass.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 06:30
No, it's a TITANIC pain in the ass...! (see what I did there..?!... I'll get my coat)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 07:03
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAA
EXCELLENT!!!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 08:42
Anyone else spot the non-Sgt Intercessor with a chainsword in the SW pic?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:12
Was it a chainsword or a combat knife?
sergeant has a combat knife, regular boy has a chainsword and pistol
but it wouldnt be the first time they've shown illegal unit comps in promo images
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:25
I strongly suspect they'll allow them to have chainswords, the same as Grey Hunters can all take them.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 13:32
yeah, i was thinking the same - non-codex and all that.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:33
it's all designed to make them really difficult to implement so we get more stuff like #3408.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:51
also, looks like there will be a Wolf upgrade kit, in the same way as the DA, BA, and UM kits
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:52
well, they'll need the bigger chainsword arms :smile:
and maybe new heads?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:53
yeah, I don't think they'll upgrade Primaris to Wulfen
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:53
Surely Cawl fixed that... :grinning:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:53
from the one shot we have it looks like at least shoulder pads and icons / trohpies
but there is a chainsword in the BA kit, so I assume the one shown is similar
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 13:54
that's just for the sergeant though, right?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:54
I think so, yes
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:55
in the BA box, yes
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe seems to have some allergy to Primaris anything
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:55
I'm intrigued to see what a Wulfen dread looks like
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:55
Murderfang
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:55
so, what's to say that the guy is not the Sgt...??
(the guy with the chainsword)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:56
Honestly I'm keeping my expectations at down-to-the-bedrock rock bottom
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 13:56
this feels to me like the promo guys made the squad with rule of cool, rather than hinting at any new datasheet
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:56
the guy with the axe is the Captain / Battle Leader
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:56
I suppose I just assumed that the guy with the bare head is the sarge.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:56
and perhaps the other guy is showing of a different head option
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 13:56
yeah, simon. i was assuming the guy with the combat knife is the sarge
since chainswordio doesnt have sergeant markings
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:57
are there bare heads in the standard intercessor set??
chainsword guy does have a different kneepad though
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:57
Pretty sure he's a sarge. He has the marking on his kneepad
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:57
(is now trying really hard)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 13:58
fair enough, maybe they'll keep it restricted to sgts then.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 13:58
oh, i didnt spot that. maybe that's it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 13:59
"Codex Space Wolves previews all this week, here on The Disappointment Channel."
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 13:59
hehehehhee
which means there should be a fresh dose of disappointment due shortly
time to make a cuppa
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:00
Is it bad as a BA player I’m kinda glad wolves is looking to be as mediocre as my dex?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:00
Looking at other SM not-quite-codex armies, we have DA. What did they get? Hellblasters that are pretty good, I guess?
BA. What did they get? Smashfuckers.
I am not hopeful based on what I've seen that SW aren't going to suck
My friend called it "Space Marine gruel"
Like a really bad god-awful soup with tasteless ingredients
We'll see though. If they give the Great Companies "chapter tactics" that aren't useless there is a teeny, tiny glimmer of hope
But, as I've pointed out
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:02
I mean at least there’s consistency across the astartes books unlike previous editions
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:03
Hope is the first step to disappointment
Yes @alphalas it is bad
And you're a bad person for thinking that way LOL
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:03
But that consistency is the consistency of mediocrity
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:03
More like turds in a toilet bowl
Even if one floats to the top....it's still a turd.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:04
I was talking to my buddy a few weeks ago - he’s trying to actually get back into 40k
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:04
Eloquent, as always, Joe.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:05
He’s a sisters player who also dabbled in marines
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:05
I'd like to think I create effective metaphors
Or is it allegories?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:05
Analogies?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:05
It actually hurt me a bit inside to basically tell him that marines are in a terrible place right now
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:06
Either way -- one should have no doubt as to what my opinion of the current space marines is
Dude vanilla marines have always kinda sucked
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:06
And he looked at me dead in the eyes and was like “you mean the poster boys suck?”
Yes Steve, yes they do
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:06
It's been a long while (4th?) since they have sucked out loud like they do now though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:07
@CrusherJoe that’s it though
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:07
DA were never great
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:07
5-7 they were salvageable
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:07
i think it's a transitional period. they'll be back when primaris are the norm
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:07
BA were occasionally...less sucky
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:07
You could make magic happen, but they weren’t great
Now they’re just bad again
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:08
But Wolves were bad ass motherfuckers in 5th
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:08
Wolves also broke the rules badly
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:08
That's kinda what they do
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:08
Phil kelly has actually admitted he made a mistake making that book as good as it was
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:09
Guilleman: Here, have a copy of the Codex Astartes. Russ: Cool, I'll install it in my toiler paper holder.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:09
PHIL FUCKING KELLY
sighs
And then Steve asked me if sisters were any good
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:09
I know I'm about to get branded a heretic
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:09
Russ: Oh, you're serious? ... let me laugh even harder.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:10
But I wish Matt Ward would have written the Wolves codex.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:10
And I had to crush him even harder and tell him if he’s not spamming repressors, don’t expect girls to get far
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:10
In all his OP, fluff-rapey glory
Hey at least Sisters have one good build.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:11
Sisters were (and still are) the best index army. But that doesnt make up for a lack of codex.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:11
@GenWilhelm agreed
They really are
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:11
theyre gonna be scary when they get a book
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:11
And no, it doesn’t
God I hope so
If they’re not, that actually might be what pushes me back into Tau
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:12
Hey at least Sisters have one good mediocre build.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:12
I haven’t touched my tau since I acquired my girls
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe approves of that
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:13
But the more I look at how the tau dex is shaping up and how mediocre everything else is..
I mean c’mon, tigersharks are good
And not the A-X-10
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:14
I heard from a relatively decent source that Orks were "beyond broken" before the playtesters got ahold of them and they've since been knocked back to really great
Which reminds me, I need to head over to the ol' BoLS studio and thumb through the Wolves book
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 13 2018 14:15
Vanilla tigersharks are a decent choice; and 1-2 tips are solid enough you don’t need 4 of the fuckers
Hammerheads are actually on mostly equal footing with rips
And the devilfish is probably 2-3rd best transport in the game
But #muhsisters
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 13 2018 14:17
Y'vh'ar'ah's are
scary
They are the only Tau I fear
Well after the Wolves disappoint
Because #whereisRuss
But after they do, pretty much Sisters is my last hope for something truly great
Hopefully they'll be broken AF
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 14:38
so, since many armies are not OP / broken, and aren't totally terrible, does that not point towards BALANCE being achieved by GW...??
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Aug 13 2018 14:47
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average of points scored across ETC tournament ... whilst not a true measure it gives a good 'SnapShot' of the competitive meta from only one perspective
Nerf Deathguard !!!
;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 14:58
righto, and yes, Disgustingly resilient is a powerful rule
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 14:59
out of the top 10, there are two that arent CSM or Eldar
The events which take place in Tooth and Claw continue the story that began in Warhammer 40,000: Kill Team, and reveal the full extent of the threat faced by the world of Vigilus, while hinting at future events that may yet come to pass…
what...? Kill Team Starter box set includes Skitarii and GSC
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 15:00
there was a SW box too though, wasnt there?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 13 2018 15:00
yeah, the "Fangs of Ulrich" box has lore relating to Vigilus
basically, all the faction are fighting over the planet.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 13 2018 15:01
@sk_Father_Price_twitter how is the roster faction determined? is a Death Guard roster just pure DG?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 13 2018 15:02
righto, so I should re-read my Skitarii book for traces of Vigilus :smile:
STRIKE FORCE ICEPELT <-- seriously...
looks like @CrusherJoe is bang on
tekton
@tekton
Aug 13 2018 16:27
For a moment I thought there was going to be a list where GK weren’t on the bottom and I was going to claim said list a liar...