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14th
Aug 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 01:58
When it comes to being disappointed, I usually am @FarseerVeraenthis
Micheal
@Mikle103
Aug 14 2018 04:32
Hi Everyone I lurk and read, just a question how hard is it to do your own cat for for 40k as i know as a community you only official codex listings. I wish to make a fan codex cat
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 05:24
There are those way better suited to answer that than I -- I think you should check out our Wiki?
Also
Forge World Getrekticus up in here
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Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 14 2018 05:25
It's not particularly difficult, but there are a lot of tricks and quirks to it. Probably best to start with the base catalogue for the faction you're adapting and work from there. Take a look at how it's been done and learn from that.
Micheal
@Mikle103
Aug 14 2018 07:13
Thanks for the advice will look at the wiki.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Aug 14 2018 11:21
@GenWilhelm the table I presented was just data taken from this and averaged the points scored, in no way is it anything more than conjecture and a snapshot from one data source
https://tourneykeeper.net/Team/TKIndividualLeaderboard.aspx?id=2471
you'll need to look at each faction heading, but I think they run it as the most points spent is the primary faction ... might be wrong tho
Deathguard topped the list because they only appeared once ... I'm not clever enough to work out ranked averages and stuff
been a long time since school and standard deviations etc. :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 11:25
cool. thanks!
looks like what i thought it would be - roster faction is the faction of the highest cost detachment
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Aug 14 2018 11:27
can't be right, that DG list is 1000 pts of alpha legion .. the only DG detach is Morty
and anything that says Blood angels is just the twin smash triple scout threat
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 11:28
huh. so it is
all the others ive looked at have it as their biggest detachment
like the highest scoring harlequins one is 900pts of harlequins and 1100pts of DE
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Aug 14 2018 11:29
just spotted the fact I didn't need to put all that into excel ... under the staistics tab, theres a score by codex that has the same results lol
same results though .. so I did something right
They have Std Deviation! whoop! ... sorting by that does something though I'm not sure what
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 11:34
basically a measure of how consistently a faction performed. 0 deviation = they all scored the same, high deviation = many of them scored far from their faction average
so for factions that have very few lists, it's not very helpful. but for factions with quite a few, it could be seen as an indicator of how much the faction's performance varies depending on circumstances
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 11:41
for example, if you compare knights to tau, they each had 27 lists, knights have a higher average and have less deviation. so they no only scored higher more often, they also scored well more consistently
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Aug 14 2018 11:49
aaah that makes sense ... so over all Drukhari with 23 played .. but only a deviation of 16.5 seem to be the overall most popular and at 65 pts average the best overall army .
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 11:58
well i cant find any rhyme or reason to how roster faction is determined. some people put the faction of their biggest detachment (the ITC method), some people put the keyword that all of the units in the army share (the rulebook method), some people put the faction of their warlord (the 7e method), and some people apparently pick it at random(?)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 15:36
I prefer the ITC method
It seems the logical way
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 14 2018 15:41
can be misleading though. e.g. that army that's 900pts of harlequins and 1100pts of DE would be a harlequin army because the DE is spread between two detachments
God damnit
Why is everyone doing Apple style teasers now?
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe tunes in to The Disappointment Channel, aka the latest Warham Community SW article
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 16:38
"You get Primaris! Are you not entertained? YOU SHOULD BE ENTERTAINED AND GRATEFUL YOU WOLFY FUCKS!"
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe sighs. Deeply.
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe does not care -- not even one tiny little bit -- about the bland, homogenized pablum that is Primaris muhreens.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 17:50
Orktober.
Looks like Ork codex in october boys
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Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 17:55
Oh sure Orks get new warbuggy (which admittedly is deserved and I'm happy for them)
Meanwhile, on The Disappointment Channel
Wolves get
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 17:56
I will laugh when Russ pops out of the codex by surprise
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 17:56
Uh...Primaris? Same bland flavorless crap units as everyone else?
Yay
Dude I will eat my socks if Russ pops out of the codex by surprise
I guess it's time to face facts
Wolves are the new Sisters
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 18:00
They're getting an entire new line of sculpts next year?
:p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 14 2018 18:01
No Sisters are the new Eldar
Wolves are the new Sisters
Always gotta be one army sucking hind teat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 18:03
In an impossible to truely balance game ... that is a fact
someone will always be on the bottom
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Aug 14 2018 21:48
Wasn't there something about new terminator units and a Wulfen Dread as well?
And most armies didn't receive any new sculpts or units at all, so...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 21:49
2 of my 3 didn't.
Well, I guess admech ... kind of did
but that's just cause they like to take back what's theirs anyway
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Aug 14 2018 21:52
Yeah, or steal everyone else's tech. Except Ork tech, because that ain't tech, it's magic.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 14 2018 21:59
Magic is just technology that has yet to be understood.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 14 2018 22:53
@Owlsbane, just the Cataphractii and Tartaros that all the other chapters already got.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Aug 14 2018 23:17
Yeah okay, still new units right? Along with the Primaris. Far more than most armies got up until now.
I guess I can understand the frustration it might cause, everyone wants their army to be a special snowflake I guess. But it should be clear by now that most specialsauce will come from unique stratagems, relics and warlord traits, not much else.
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Aug 14 2018 23:23
I for one stopped playing 40k during 2nd ed. and came back to it tail end of 7th. I didn't like the 7th Eldar codex much, and I don't like the 8th either. They're undoubtedly fine codices to play the game with, but I miss the overabundance of choice that I had in fitting out my units with equipment during 2nd. Won't hear me moan about that too much though, the game has changed so I guess I have to accept that or seek my fun elsewhere.