These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

16th
Aug 2018
tekton
@tekton
Aug 16 2018 03:55 UTC
Despite the I-10 being closed in El Paso I still made it to my hotel...doing 12ish hours straight of driving is more tiring than it should be
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 05:44 UTC
Oh damn man doing the drive the hard way
tekton
@tekton
Aug 16 2018 05:45 UTC
Pretty much...
I was hoping to get further today, but that freeway closure kind of took the wind out of the sails
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 05:50 UTC
Oh yeah that'll do it
Luckily the drive from El P to ATX is easy. Long....but easy
I made it just a couple of months ago
tekton
@tekton
Aug 16 2018 05:57 UTC
And there can be Salt Lick on the way...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 12:44 UTC
@amis92, I was just working through some of the old tickets and you've done a release!
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Aug 16 2018 13:17 UTC
Oh. Don't worry, just update the release after you're done, I think the AppSpot refresh runs currently around 6AM UTC
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 13:18 UTC
I was going to look at the DA Lieutenant issue, but it needs either some major rework, or some fudging.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 13:20 UTC
cant you validate ancestor instance of?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 13:22 UTC
it is, but I think the nesting of the weapon choices is borking it
because it doesn't currently trigger.
the TH does that check in the GST.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 13:24 UTC
the GST one currently validates from Parent, unless you just changed that?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 13:24 UTC
ah shit, missed it. Yeah, should be able to fix it at the GST then
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 13:50 UTC
There we go. 1 non-bug ticket left.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 13:50 UTC
you're a machine
and ther are 0 on the killteam repo
it's almost like we've got our sh!t together...!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 13:51 UTC
yeah, but kill team is tiny so I'm not surprised. And the audience is small right now.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:20 UTC
@Mad-Spy you mind implementing my request bugrep por favor?
I’ve been too damn busy to do it lately
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 14:22 UTC
you'll have to explain what it means :)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 14:26 UTC
models with voice of command have the option in battlescribe to display the orders in their selection. there's a warlord trait that can give a model voice of command (called master of command). so a character that has that warlord trait should be able to display orders, the same as characters who have VoC naturally
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:31 UTC
^this
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 14:33 UTC
should only apply to commissars (including yarrick) and MoO, iirc
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:35 UTC
Technically any AM character that doesn’t have VoC
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 14:36 UTC
not all AM characters can take the AM traits though. i know commissars can, but psykers and tech-priests cant
90% sure ministorum priests cant either
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:37 UTC
Ok yea you’re right
OoF isn’t regiment so yup just LComm, Comm, Yarrick, and masterOrdy
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 14:39 UTC
i'll have a look in a bit
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 14:40 UTC
yeah, come on willing volunteer, get on with it!! chip chop :tongue:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:41 UTC
Only <Regiment>, MilTemp, or Prefectus can have AM wlt
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 14:41 UTC
lol, Simon. oh and while you're at it, just get SW ready for next saturady :smile:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 14:42 UTC
hehehe!! what do you mean you haven't found any leaks yet?!?!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 14:42 UTC
We got half a Wulfen Dread datasheet!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 14:42 UTC
Earl's comment about throwing people into the sun still makes me giggle
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:45 UTC
I love how @Kohato is such a trendsetter lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 14:45 UTC
HOpefully we don't get too much info for muh Wolves over the weekend as I'm gonna be up to my eyeballs in WGCX
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:45 UTC
We all just used our screen names, but his display name was his real name - now we all have our real names
Except for that @CrusherJoe dude - he’s a shady fuck ;)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 14:50 UTC
it's all about keeping it real
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 14:50 UTC
Beg pardon?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 14:51 UTC
I’m teasing joe lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 14:51 UTC
Oh no I mean...yeah...I am shady AF
But not with my datafiles LOL
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 14:59 UTC
Also, that was a falsehood
I submit as proof, fresh from Master
Capture.PNG
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 15:00 UTC
Yeah I do have to update that
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:00 UTC
Looks like the only "shady dude" is that Alphalas guy hiding behind an alias :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:00 UTC
:rocket:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:01 UTC
I've been on the "Information Superhighway" since before it was barely a cattle path in a pasture
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:01 UTC
well, Joe, you're the one directly associating with so-called "Alphalas"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:01 UTC
IDGAF if someone knows who I am LOL. If I'm not already on a watch list somewhere someone isn't doing their job
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:02 UTC
also, on the topic of Space Wolf datasheets... don't forget that you will have to add in scout bikes, the Land Speeder Storm, the gunship, hunter and the stalker already
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:02 UTC
do they not already have those from the index?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:02 UTC
Yeah I'm hoping to get some work done on them this afternoon
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:03 UTC
well... I haven't checked the CAT... but the warhammer community article suggested they were new
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:03 UTC
jeez. wouldnt surprise me tbf
theyve been hyping up catas and tartaros, so i guess they probably dont
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:04 UTC
are any of the TDA variants worth it??
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:04 UTC
If by "new" you mean "here Wolves, have some crap everyone else has had since 6th" then...yeah, I suppose you could call it "new"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:05 UTC
competitively speaking, no. theyre all way too expensive
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:05 UTC
(that's why they don't have any in pale ice blue to photograph)
righto
good job I resisted the option to grab some from Calth then
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:06 UTC
Which is true across the board for pretty much all muhreen units right now
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:06 UTC
blightlords did well recently, but theyre only a tiny bit more expensive, and about twice as survivable
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 15:06 UTC
Catas are ok in that they have iron halos instead of refractor fields
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:06 UTC
also, DG* get access to a strictly better lightning claw
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 15:07 UTC
But yeah all terms except DG terms are pretty mediocre
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:32 UTC
was just reading that :smile:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:32 UTC
so abominants have power sledgehammers which are better in combat than thunder hammers
(no minus 1 to hit)
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:32 UTC
apparently a signpost is a "Hypermorph"
it's basically on par with a HTH, isnt it?
and being basically monster sized, i imagine he's not particular impaired by it's weight
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:34 UTC
I thought all thunder hammers were -1 to hit??
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 15:35 UTC
@alphalas, #3275 is done. NO OPEN TICKETS!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:36 UTC
:fireworks:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:36 UTC
they are, Simon, but i was thinking this guy is probably closer to a dreadnought than a space marine :stuck_out_tongue:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:36 UTC
:palm_tree:
I just wonder if they will be 3+ WS
because if they are, that makes them extremely unpleasant
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:37 UTC
aberrant already are, so i wouldnt be surprised if he's 2+
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:38 UTC
:worried:
probably toughness a billion too
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:39 UTC
nah, GSC are top-heavy. he'll be T5 at most
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:41 UTC
Ah, The Disappointment Channel continues to deliver
So lemme get this shit straight
Fukken genestealer cult filth gets to double hit on 6s and get buffs basically out a wazoo, and they have a sledgehammer that outperforms a thunder hammer in every single way and does a aminimum of 3 dmg up to 6 with no penalty to hit
And yet
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:43 UTC
you got it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:43 UTC
TWC are neutered down to S8 thammers that are still -2 to hit
Someone please explain this to me
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:43 UTC
:+1:
well... it's obvious, Marine ONLY train to fight for their entire lives, whereas GSC "things" are born to kill...
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe blinks
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:44 UTC
Sure
No I think the real answer is GW just hates Space Wolves
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:45 UTC
hold your horses wolves, we havent seen what TWC look like in the codex yet
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:46 UTC
I'll eat a pair of socks live on webcam for all to see if they make them the superstars they used to be
They aren't going to change them, probably not even a little bit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:46 UTC
Bagged and tagged.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:47 UTC
I'd trade every Primaris model ever made for good TWC
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:47 UTC
a whole pair of socks... that's a sumptuous feast
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:47 UTC
Well to be fair I only own "no show" socks
But -- sadly -- I feel I'm really, really safe in that bet
If I was a bettin' man -- which I'm not -- but if I was I'd take that action on the Vegas strip in a heartbeat
I know this is abhorrent to say...but just give me back mah 7e TWC, thanks
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Aug 16 2018 15:51 UTC
but if they make TWC great again, who's going to buy all the new shiny primaris models
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe misses his fully-operational Wolfstar. He really does. :cry:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:51 UTC
Well
I'm not going to buy them in any case
I got Dark Imperium -- split it with a DG buddy
Sat on them
Then traded all the Primmies in the set for a decent-sized pile of metal Sisters
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 16 2018 15:52 UTC
Unpopular opinion: s10 TWC were a MISTAKE
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:52 UTC
You shut your whore mouth
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:53 UTC
eh. these days there's not much difference between S8 and S10
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:53 UTC
They were superior slayers, apex predators
Oh but there is. There's plenty of S5 filth out there that needs to die
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:55 UTC
i guess against knights it's relevant. but otherwise, it's wounding exactly T5 on 3+ instead of 2+
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:55 UTC
yeah, which makes a big difference when you consider "re-roll 1 to wound" is a common thing
ah...
maybe not
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 16 2018 15:56 UTC
That 2+ makes all the difference, since SW re-rolling to W is the rarest of precious treasures
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 16 2018 15:56 UTC
re-rolling 1s is a flat multiplier though. the difference is 20% regardless of whether you have rr1s or not
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 16 2018 15:57 UTC
(yeah, I know, it felt right at the time but now I just wish I could delete all the posts... )
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 16 2018 16:35 UTC
no open issues?
What sort of sorcery is this
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Aug 16 2018 16:41 UTC
I magicked them all away.