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27th
Aug 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Aug 27 2018 01:36
it really is a disappointing book
I was expecting them to be at LEAST on par with deathwatch after lessons learned from codex:DW
and terminators to be more useful because of customization
but nope
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 02:34
Okay
The first pass is DONE
Some of y'all please please look it over because I'm certain there's stuff in there that's not right
Otherwise I'm gonna merge a buggy ol' wolf turd into Master and that's no good for anyone LOL
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 02:51
lol
So NOW the first pass is done. Please check Pure-Wolf-Disappointment branch for the updated SW book (such as it is)
Any and all feedback welcomed
(though I will say I'll bet I put more effort into the datafiles than GW did on the entire codex)
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 03:53
@CrusherJoe there’s better than even odds you’re right
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 04:25
@tekton you remember John Cook? His comment was "This entire 'update' could have been a free PDF."
He's not wrong.
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 04:26
Hahahahahahaha I would have to agree. The new “fluff” doesn’t even seem new :(
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 04:27
At the end of the day after going over it all I've come to the conclusion that there's 3 things they need to do to fix this book:
  1. 10-20% points drop almost Codex-wide
  1. Rules for The Great Companies
  1. LEMAN RUSS, YOU FUCKERS
(WTF why did it change my numbers?)
Also, 4. A way to give more than one character a Saga. C'mon GW, if Knights can do it, SW can (and it's fully fluffy for them to do so)
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 04:29
Markdown is weird like that sometimes...though they’re all about tied anyway
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Aug 27 2018 11:21
Surely tactical marines should be the same points across all marine cats... (except Deathwatch, because they only have veterans)
So if you suggest a 10-20% drop, that's for every marine codex...?
Howuch more expensive are the wolves than standard??
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 27 2018 11:22
Would go a LONG WAY to help marines in general
Marines are overcosted for being average
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 27 2018 13:22
@CrusherJoe are you planning on doing relic validation?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 14:13
Define "relic validation"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Aug 27 2018 16:35
Validation of relics
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 27 2018 16:39
He’s probably doing it to the extent of what guard have
Which is basic at best lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Aug 27 2018 17:16
like making sure people dont take too many with a local warlord selection, stratagems, etc.
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 17:44
@CrusherJoe the more i've thought about it lately the more I wonder if Russ and Vulkan will come back as "the war" heats up with demons, etc pouring out of the rift that tore the imperium in half; they both said they needed to wait for a bigger war.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 27 2018 17:46
@tekton don’t forget Dorn and Corax too - and the Khan
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 17:47
Did they actually have the same precog visions that Russ and Vulkan had? I thought they were just pulled along by one of them and were "maybe" players in "the war to come"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 27 2018 17:47
Khan iirc did the same
Dorn just disappeared
Corax took his battle barge into the eye making meta references to Poe
“Quoth the raven, ‘nevermore’”
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 17:51
I thought Khan was in the webway fighting the drew carey
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Aug 27 2018 17:52
...maybe?
tekton
@tekton
Aug 27 2018 17:53
Vulkan, in his weird post-dead perpetual state wasn't entirely sure if Dorn was alive but seemed to think so...either way, there's already a model from FW :P
And apparently I need to get "Sons of the Emperor" from a few months ago to catch up on Corax
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Aug 27 2018 23:38
Valarie Kyrie first attempt.jpg
Now....granted, she's need some clean-up attention, and I really need to learn both how to manage support generation and removal from finished print...but...considering I've only been working with the printer and 3D printing in general for a week...I'd say "Valarie Kyrie" turned out pretty good