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3rd
Sep 2018
tekton
@tekton
Sep 03 2018 00:07
So, a friend of mine lost his place and is moving in with me for a bit. He plays IG but hasn’t played all that much since 6th. Any suggestions on tank load outs? (He really like the Russ’ and wants to field 6-9 of them)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 03 2018 00:08
executioner, LRBT, punisher from regular plastic, conq or annihilator if not averse to minor kitbashing
build it without gluing the guns and you can hot-swap things around just fine
the new kits are all designed to be modular in the guns department
demo kit makes executioner/punisher/demo
LRBT makes LRBT/Erad/Exterm/Vanq
for the annihilator just find a couple spare lascannon barrels from HWTs or something and chop off the exterminator autocannons, replace with lascannon barrels and boom, you have an excellent anti-tank loadout
one that in practice is actually superior to a neutronager or anything else short of knights
(5 lascannon shots is no joke)
tekton
@tekton
Sep 03 2018 00:12
i'm probably going to let him use my castellan for a bit to help a bit; i already magnatized all my tanks ;)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 03 2018 00:13
basilisks and manticores are his best friend, and if he wants a long-term hobby project, octoblade
because the baneblade variants do work
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 03 2018 02:46
Speaking of Conqs
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I do believe I have cracked that code
tekton
@tekton
Sep 03 2018 03:06
@WindstormSCR we have 6 Russ bodies to work with for now, he has no income and I don’t have extra hobby budget for new stuff for a bit
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 03 2018 06:33
6 is a good start
What else does he have?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 03 2018 09:33
i mostly agree with Windstorm. conq would be the best by far if tank commanders could use them. battle cannons and punishers are your main workhorses. and executioners are good iff you can re-roll 1s and the opponent has no hit malus, otherwise theyre just bad battle cannons, so they can work depending on the meta
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 03 2018 09:40
oh and annihilators are good against exactly wave serpents. otherwise theyre outperformed by the cheaper battle cannon
tekton
@tekton
Sep 03 2018 11:38
He’s also got a lot of guardsman, some bullgryn (like three?), and a sentinel (just one so far iirc)- I think that’s all that’s left at this point
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 17:50
I Feel dirty
I've pooped where I preached. I have a Shared Entry Group hidden by default and show if
runs
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 03 2018 17:51
Lol
amis92 @amis92 runs after @Kohato
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 17:51
I blame BS
It won't separate AND groups within a tree.
Hide = True if Less than 1 X and (Less than 1 Y AND Less than 1 Z) does not compute.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 03 2018 17:55
Bullgryn and a priest make for some good lulz
Though to really shine you need...well... several
I only have 3
But I'm a 3-2 Scrub
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 17:56
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Unless someone can fix my logic here ... hide then show will live in shame in IK.
I need to hide the group this is on if the parent doesn't have Character (heirloom) or if it doesn't have Character (but only if there is a warlord in the roster)
This logic ... should work if BS isolated and groups in a tree.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 17:59
I need to hide the group this is on if the parent doesn't have Character (heirloom) or if it doesn't have Character (but only if there is a warlord in the roster)
… you say "or" yet there's an "and" top group
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:00
Correct.
If you use OR in the case of hiding on a conditional, it hides in every case
because one is always true.
Say I wanted to Hide unless X = 1 or Y = 1, I have to say hide if X = 0 AND y = 0
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:01
So it's either-or, otherwise known as exclusive or?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:02
basically, I'm trying to hide the relic group unless the unit has the selection: "Character (Heirloom)" OR (it has Character and there is a warlord in the roster)
Hence, Hide if Less than 1 Character (Heirloom) AND (Less than 1 Character and Greater than 0 Warlord in Roster)
The top part will return TRUE, but it looks like the bottom part never returns TRUE, so it never hides.
proper conditionals would be amazing, but probably not doable in BS :p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:10
like, an Else If would be a godsend in this case :p
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:15
I feel the condition is wrong.
You've negated everything except Greater than 0 Warlord
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:19
I need to hide the group unless the following: Parent has "character (heirloom)" or the parent has "Character" and there is a Warlord in the roster.
Hide > Or > Parent does not have Character (Heirloom) | And > Parent does not have character and warlord in roster will always return false unless I have everything present.
It works with Show If instead of Hide If perfectly. But then there's that ugly hide by default.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:22
Show me how it look with show-if
So you want to (not hide) when [Character-Heirloom OR (Character AND Warlord)]
Which makes it to hide when [~Character-Heirloom AND ~(Character AND Warlord)] ==> ~Character-Heirloom AND (~Character OR ~Warlord)
It's logical expression conversion
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 03 2018 18:25
@Kohato but gaining character from exalted court also allows it to take relics :P
since hierlooms relic gives one character, lance creates one character, and exalted gives one the character KW
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:26
Correct Wind - but only Questoris/Dominus can get that trait - so in order to hide them properly in one case but not the other I've had to add a Character (strategem) tag
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 03 2018 18:26
aaaah
confuzzling
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:27
Right @amis92 and that's the string I first wanted to do - but it doesn't seem to work.
i'm converting to show if now
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That works exactly how I need it to.
show if it's a character and warlord in roster, or if it has the strategem tag.
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:29
and when you invert all conditions it doesn't?
in the previous screen the Warlord condition wasn't inverted, nor the group it was in
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:30
well god dammit
I love you.
amis92 @amis92 blushes
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:31
You too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:35
and that should fix taking relics/WT on armiger/atropos/cerastus via strat.
And it's not ugly hide by default :D
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:37
"I Saved The World Today…!" 🎶 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf052uxFF58
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:38
omg
4:3
how old is this
Also, she looks like Lena Headey
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 03 2018 18:39
Pretty old. ;D
Previous century, obviously, after quick google-fu.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:47
And boom - made things less click-y on mobile while I was at it
most things are now part of the base entry group rather than click-through
It will mean users need to re-select their warlords in their lists, but otherwise it will be cleaner on mobile.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 03 2018 18:56
Thanks for the poke in the brain amis.