These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

13th
Sep 2018
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 00:34
@FarseerVeraenthis i can second the reiver box- they're pretty fun to put together and pose, really not that bad to work with
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 01:29
@CrusherJoe they fit a patrol, nitch's squad is troop
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:02
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The beast, she is done -- just in time for the nerf bat
Also, yes, that is a Saint Celestine coffee tumbler in the background. :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 02:04
undrilled melta barrels
REEEEEE
but seriously it looks good
I just can't unsee the undrilled meltas after JUST doing mine
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:05
I understand
But after fucking up I don't know how many barrels over the years with mis-aligned holes, off-center drilling, etc.
I just say, "Fuck it."
Perhaps when we get the drill press I'll re-visit that stance lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 02:11
at least paint a black round on there man
you can do that neatly enough
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:12
....true
I'll do something
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:18
Sweet geebuz looking over the lists that have been uploaded into BCP for the Slobberknocker GT I'm going to this weekend
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 02:18
good? bad? indifferent? appalling?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:19
And all I see is some filth. Pure, undiluted filth.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 02:19
give us the highlights?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:19
Hang on
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:26
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An oddity in the wild kingdom -- pure banana hammock!
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I give this guy credit for rolling out with mostly knights and Scions for his Guard battalion
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 02:28
surprised the crusader isn't a castellan tbh
a lot more firepower for mot much more points
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Sep 13 2018 02:32
I think this one is my favorite so far
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Soon as I saw AdMech I thought, "I'll bet he has a drill with fulgurites..."
Kept reading
YEP there they are! YEP there's the drill!
And...I think like ALL the Dragoons?
That list will be a real motherfucker to deal with
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Sep 13 2018 03:06
You can’t have enough dragoon’s.
-1 to hit at all times. Massive str on the charge.
And who doesn’t like tesla. Also they can explode. And lol 6 wounds each.
I love dragons.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 03:09
they squadded or not?
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 04:00
that is not enough electropriests
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 04:43
hmmm
I have an opportunity to grab one of the PF/plaspistol primaris captains
not sure how I would really use him though
since they don't really have a transport worth a fuck yet
I love the model, I just don't need a shelf ornament
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 04:48
Cataphractii terminators look so much better when they're the odd model out in a squad of PA
really highlights the protection difference and just raw styling
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Sep 13 2018 07:05
@WindstormSCR, do you have the RT books? Any chance of some pics of the datasheets, etc?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 09:50
@WindstormSCR I have a store birthday captain too.. I was thinking of running him in my Deathwatch as a drop into the opponents deployment zone surprise
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 10:06
it's probably not a great way to spend CP's but when my dreadnought appeared "from nowhere" in the middle of my opponent's deployment zone the other day his face was hilarious, so having them both turn up would be even funnier
(perhaps)
Also, if you position for a T2 charge, you can drop him in from the Teleportarium to provide buffs without having to run him up the board
I mean, he's wasted as a back-line dude since he has an expensive fist and a short range pistol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 10:12
And now you made me look up Dragoons, and those models are crazy... good job I already have some Ad Mech from my KT Starter - but I don't need another army... but the models... but. but...but!!!!!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 14:32
I don't, was just a sneaky pic grab while reading
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 13 2018 14:34
the cat is up on a branch if anyone want to take a gander
some of the wording might be slightly off though, but that can be fixed when we have better pics
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 13 2018 14:36
heh
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Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 13 2018 14:38
I think that request for BCP would rather need to be implemented as a BS roster import on their side.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 13 2018 14:39
I would think it would probably require implimentation on both sides, wouldn’t it?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Sep 13 2018 14:41
Well, BS rosters are pretty straightforward, so importing that file and setting some stuff shouldn't be a problem for them?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 15:10
yeah, but what about the Priest
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 13 2018 15:11
just take whatever you want /s
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Sep 13 2018 15:13
yeah, there's nothing actually wrong with it, is there? It's just named in a jokey way.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 13 2018 15:13
iirc Joe removed all the validation
because there was a huge debate at the time over what was legal from the index
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 15:15
uhuh, due to the duplication of datasheet name with different option in different parts of the index, and then codex I think it was decided it is technically impossible to decide what GW wanted to limit
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Sep 13 2018 15:16
yeah, changing from ministorum to IG did funky things wrt points costs
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 15:31
uhuh
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 17:20
basically the TO needs to decide on a ruling for the priest every time
Knight castellan half complete
unfortunately looks like his first game he will be grey because of shitty weather
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 19:48
I got lucky, rain stopped and humitity lowered just enough
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 13 2018 20:09
Heh
Apparently the X-Wing squad builder app thing dropped today
It makes azyr/warscroll builder look good
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:10
Wait...that’s....possible?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 13 2018 20:10
Amazing that big name companies are having such hard times building simple dedicated apps for singular game systems
Even better is that FFG has basically made it so the app is an integral part of competitive play
So the app being broken means that official competitive play is broken too
Whoda thunk it?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 20:14
rofl
hey, if GW paid me enough I'd take a job doing data entry/formatting/QA for something like BS and Azyr
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Sep 13 2018 20:18
Oh so would I
I just love how this is the second game system specific app that at launch is basically completely broken
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 20:29
they'd probably have to pay me less than you, my job isn't great and I'm not in love with it, and the pay is shit
I'd consider the discount a benefit :P
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:30
the random crap version i made before i knew battlescribe existed is better than combat roster or azyr, and i hate making UIs... ./sigh I don't understand this either
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 20:30
@CrusherJoe that castellan picture WAS handy for figuring out how to build it completely but with all the plates separated
so thanks
now it is in the base colors for my "house raven" scheme
just need an actual name for the house
I'm also very torn on if I should get renegade to finish the house off or a preceptor
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:32
insulting our own work for a moment- how is it that a dozen volunteers, who are all quite busy most of the time, have a more accurate incarnation? /rant
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 20:32
because while the las impulsor and armiger bonus is cool, so is running two lances
@tekton because we care
actually caring about what you do makes one fuckload of a difference
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:38
I guess I've been spoiled to care about my work wherever I've been, even when I don't like the people. I know I've been a bit lucky in that way, but you'd think that people working on something like that would care quite a bit. You can argue about "development timelines" and the ilk, but something still seems a bit off at that point, too.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Sep 13 2018 20:44
@tekton, and also because GW's 1 man-1 job philosophy cannot work for something this massive. We succeed because we're a team, we can pick up for each other and share tips and tricks.
I asked them at UKGE if it was true about having the one guy working on the app and they confirmed it.
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:45
I'm not discounting that, but if you were to go make it from the ground up and weren't restrained by a tool that needs to be that generic it reduces complexity by quite a bit.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Sep 13 2018 20:46
I don't think one person could possibly build and maintain what we do without it driving them crazy.
tekton
@tekton
Sep 13 2018 20:47
I'm just the angry old man in the corner that been doing this for too long, I'm aware :P But I've seen people do larger project solo and succeed; for example one guy wrote the networking engine for Quake 2 and then again for a couple really large games that came out recently- it's doable, but I would argue it goes back to passion for it (or caring depending on how you feel about words)
I get it's a hard gig, I'm again not discounting that- but this is a series of unfortunate releases from now two companies; surely someone will learn at some point?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 20:52
I mean, the ideal version that would put them ahead in the business and fuck the shit out of thier competitors would be to hire johnskichov and a couple of us, and use the existing expertise to make a serious app that does lists and tournament brackets, which would also simultaneously kill battlescribe in its current incarnation.
win for them on having vaccuumed up the expertise that exists, making it so that the thorn in thier side is effectively dead, and having a quality product people would actually pay/sub for
because while it is very very difficult for them to shut current BS down, the easiest way to headshot it is simply hire the developer and include a non-compete/prop clause in the contract to prevent continuance of a similar program as hobby work
but it'll never happen, so eh
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Sep 13 2018 21:01
Yeah, all sounds good, it does make a difference if you care about your work, that's for certain, and I do like working with you guys because I definitely have a "team" feeling about the way we collaborate, but yes, it might be nice to be all "official"...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Sep 13 2018 21:04
I'd just like to have a steady job :/
right now all I've got is freelance whatever I can get