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9th
Oct 2018
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 09 2018 05:44
Well, due to things torpedoing my budget, the choice has been made for me: van saar gangers it is for an =]]= killteam
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Oct 09 2018 09:05
morning chaps .. am I doing something wrong in a simple Astartes batallion ? I can't see the option for the extra relics stratagem
added a chapter tactic .. selected random HQ as Warlord ... I can't get it to appear on mobile or PC
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 09:29
i dont think the SM cat has that level of validation
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 12:47
anyone have any other opinions on #3731 before I close it?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 09 2018 12:48
Honestly it should stay imo
It’s not wargear, it’s a whole unit.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 15:52
yea ... it's not a wargear missing
it's an entire datasheet
which can still be used per designer commentary
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 15:54
so now we go back to the discussion of "what is a model?"?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 15:55
Did you have a model you used when you played with the Lone Wolf datasheet?
Then your model has no new datasheet.
End of story
Or are you saying that you used Lone Wolves in a 7th army without having models on the table?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 15:57
i'm saying that the model used for index lones wolves are the same as wolf guard leaders, those models do have datasheets available in the codex
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 15:58
were wolf guard leaders in the old codex too?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 15:58
pretty sure that's what GW will say if we ever get it in an FAQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 15:58
*index
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 15:58
yeah, they were there when i maintained the 7e file
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 15:58
sorry meant in the index
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 16:00
the only new battle leader in the codex is the primaris one, as far as i can see
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:01
So the wolf guard leader in codex is primaris
but the lone wolf wasn't, correct?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 16:01
no, WGBL is not primaris
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:01
oh
then he's useless to us :p I meant was WGBL in the index
at the same time as the Lone Wolf
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 16:02
yeah, WGBL and WGPL are both in the index
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:03
See what i'm getting at? Lone wolf wasn't replaced in the codex
The option you're saying replaced it wasn't a replacement, it was there before too.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 16:04
right, but the models themselves are the same
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Oct 09 2018 16:04
But that doesn’t matter
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Oct 09 2018 16:05
that's the only thing that matters. the whole point of the DC is to not make old models redundant
removing lone wolves doesnt make any models redundant
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:11
So i'm confused though - how were the models differentiated then?
If it was the same exact model
i'm talkin index days
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Oct 09 2018 16:14
do GW sell a lone wolf model?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:15
No, nor do they sell a WGBL
You make them from Termi boxes
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Oct 09 2018 16:15
as in they are an option in termi boxes or thats just what everyone kitbashes from?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Oct 09 2018 16:19
the bits are in the termi box
but it's not advertised as being used for it
the bits being - each is a terminator with a power sword/storm bolter
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Oct 09 2018 18:55
@sk_Father_Price_twitter, re the Marine relics. As flakpamda has been AWOL for a while, I've been picking up Marines stuff. Relics need a major rewrite which will break everyone's lists and I haven't got
Round to it yet. Stupid mobile.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Oct 09 2018 21:24
not up to us to be the arbiters of what is or isn't relevant according to precedent, unless there is a clear logic path that says "this should go" it stays. That's the same reason we flag index shit so that it is like a flare gun saying 'double check this' for TOs checking lists