These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

9th
Nov 2018
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 02:51
So since most of my F1 knowledgeable friends are here, something interesting someone pointed out to me that I missed initially from the USGP podium
Anyone else notice Kimi took his hat off as soon as the general presented his trophy? That’s some military bearing I can get behind lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 02:57
some new list ideas I could use some poking at
veterans are: 2 SB/SS, 1 stormbolter, 2 frag cannon, 1 terminator w/ assault cannon/powersword, 1 vanguard vet
x2
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 06:06
@Kohato OK, tried to push a release: https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/releases/tag/1.1.74
I think I got it right. Does it look good to you?
The changelog link doesn't seem to be working. What Do I need to do to fix it?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Nov 09 2018 07:16
You've forgotten the "v" in front of the version number, I think. I'll take a look when I get to work if that doesn't sort it.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Nov 09 2018 08:13
I added the v in and everything is back to the way it should be.
Jo David
@bux
Nov 09 2018 08:13
good morning
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Nov 09 2018 08:20
hey
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2018 08:53
@WindstormSCR so, everyone sets up in the Eagle, with the watch master, libby and intercessors deep striking? Looks fast and heavy otherwise
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 08:55
Pretty much, eagle transports 20, so one squad has 8, the other 7, plus WM
libby or chaplain in terminator take the second HQ
I’m actually considering a dakka repulsor for games where the terminators aren’t needed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 09:02
The LSVs surprise me with how good they are
basically a predator with -1T -1W but Fly and better move, and a better AP main gun
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2018 10:45
also, the LSV doesn't suffer from degrading stats
FLY could be a liability against anti-flyer armies
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 13:11
@Mad-Spy Thanks for the help.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 17:44
@FarseerVeraenthis tbh my current biggest problem is getting my landraiders and kill teams tied up and unable to shoot
so this is an attempt to mitigate that
I also like the fast-response feel of it, kind of like the original desert SAS
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 17:54
I'll have my 3 bugs off the list tonight
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 19:20
GW's stream today, tried to show off 8 example Ork lists. The poor guys, 3 of the lists were illegal (2 had wrong points, 1 had illegal detachment). Another list didn't work because it was counting on using the Blood Axe Clan Kulture on Killa Kans. As they were showing off they told the story of several other illegal lists they had recently crafted (illegal because they didn't count points right).
It just reinforced to me how critical battlescribe is as a tool for list building. Orks are by far the most popular army in my local meta. But Ork players tend to be fairly casual. I can't imagine those guys attempting to make legal lists without something like battlescribe.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 19:29
GWs stream also skews very heavily narrative, the points aspect could've been entirely acceptable to them.
If they're not covering an actual event type list, I would take their list building with some salt when it comes to composition.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 19:32
Remember the one time the author of the demons codex actually said that scarbrand can assault out of deep strike for the next half hour or hour or whatever it was on stream – yeah.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 19:38
Wishful thinking
Though that would make him instantly viable.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 19:39
Well this was back in 7e but yeah
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 19:53
How are they supposed to judge balance if they can’t even write a legal list? its shameful
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 19:55
Hahahaha
Hah
Hahah
You think they balance things.
You're cute.
That's what points adjustments and CA is for.
There's a semblance of balance, but even attempting to really balance a game like this is a fools errand unless you want everyone to be 6" 4/4/4+ and have S4 Weapons with AP 0
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 20:05
It's sort of emblematic of the effort they want to put into the game, and Orks in particular. On the other hand, the lists were really pretty.
Two weeks ago to promote the Ork Codex, they played A stompa, a Gorkanaut, and some buggies against 3 imperial knights, and 2 Armigers. Afterwards they spent time complaining about how the Ork player built a list with a bunch of "Overcosted" units. It was kinda silly.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Nov 09 2018 20:07
@WindstormSCR it does Have a fast, dynamic feel, it's what I wish corvus were, but they're just a little weak...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 20:14
I like watching stompa games.
Things go horrible well or horribly wrong for the stompa
there's never a middle ground.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 20:18
What is the cost of a stompa vs a knight?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 20:23
Stompa is 920. Most expensive knight you normally see is 605 (Castellan)
Most Knights are in the 400-500 range.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 20:27
Stompa is still horribly overcosted
But the guns breaking are always funny
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 20:31
So I could just swarm a stompa with fister and 2 armigers and be fine
Sure
That makes perfect sense-.-
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 20:32
Pretty much.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Nov 09 2018 20:33
I think most knights are about 10% undercosted, with the Castellan, Gallant, and Helverin being 20% undercosted. Stompa shoots similar to a Knight Crusader, but only does about 2/3 as much damage. It hits harder in CC, and can transport. It's got more wounds, but no invul save, so durability is a wash. So I'd like to see it about 100 - 150 points more than a Crusader, and I'd like the Crusader to go up about 75 points. That puts the Stompa roughly at 720, or 200 points less than it is.
And that only works if the Castellan leaves the meta, because a Castellan can murder a Stompa without breaking a sweat.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:09
*stretches
Ah heck.. 4h of renovating the mancave and building and setting up the table for tomorrows game... I'm to old for this shit
BUT I AM READY!
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first game at my home in 5 years.. last time I jused a planting pot as terrain lel
tekton
@tekton
Nov 09 2018 21:11
@Thairne looks pretty dark good there
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:11
and so easy tbh... the table is modular, I can remove the middle part and shrink it to 4x4 without problems
tekton
@tekton
Nov 09 2018 21:12
sweet
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:12
gaming mat, prepainted terrain, a few plastic rims, 3 2x3 feet boards cut at the craft store, done.
tekton
@tekton
Nov 09 2018 21:13
i hope everyone has at least as much fun as it looks
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:14
last time we had an absolute blast
1on1on1 is a good format :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 21:18
I see the tree is still cooking in the crock pot. Gonna be done in time for the game?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Nov 09 2018 21:18
That's dessert for after-game celebration
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:35
you seem awfully focused on analysing the contents of my rooms BESIDE what I want to show :P
here, let me give you something, my freshly completed mancave:
see what you find xD
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Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 21:38
Not only do you have cooking miniature trees, you keep the severed head of a goth albino?!
Monster.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:39
oh
I see.
You do not know the Ginosaji.

Well if you ever have 10 minutes of your life to waste, I recommend this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

Its stupid and epic.

Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 21:40
Oh god not this again
The stupid spoon thing
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:41
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE GINOSAJI!
he is coming to you spoon!
very spoon!
Spoon?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:47
what
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Nov 09 2018 21:50
I am a banana!
My favorite of those still has to be my anus is bleeding
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:52
WHAT
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 21:54
Lady and Gents, this is Thairne'S sanity, signing out.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 21:55
MY ANUS IS BLEEDING!
Don Hertzfeldt is great.
I was introduced to him from watching Anime Hell actually lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Nov 09 2018 22:00
And of course, the classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSb-nV8l2QY
I love that @Kohato and I just shared the same damn video lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 22:01
you should share the same psychiatrist :P

you like weird shit?
I know weird shit too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4&t=189s

But this is the good kind of weird shit

WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 22:32
@Thairne I see you either have a very small dog or a cat that has trained you well
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Nov 09 2018 22:39
2 actually.
Is the extra water bowl the tell? ;)
stupid cat otherwise always try to drink my brush cleaning water.. not healthy...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Nov 09 2018 23:26
Any ideas on how we should add the Blackstone Fortress datasheets in? http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/11/breaking-blackstone-fortress-explorer-datasheets.html
I'm thinking they might be best as a separate catalogue?
The Chaos ones can definitely go in a "Servants of the Abyss" cat, as almost all of them have that keyword. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/11/40k-breaking-blackstone-fortress-servants-of-the-abyss-datasheets.html
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Nov 09 2018 23:40
@Thairne it was the pad on the desk