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2nd
Dec 2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 02 2018 01:05 UTC
I'll see your Badman and raise you Batmetal:
And, even better:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 02 2018 01:13 UTC
Also
Some leaks about Nids if anyone cares:
swarmy 250 now
neuro got nerfed 90 pts now
all the big unplayed bugs dropped about 30 pts
broodlords are 115 now
151 pts for a Tfex before guns
170 for Haruspex
150 for mal
140 for toxi
lictors only 30 pts now
and pyros only 25
harpys might be good down 45 pts
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 02:37 UTC
pyros 25 each?
Oh nvm pyro isn't the artillary one
and yes, batmetal is great.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 02:49 UTC
@amis92 NBD, but it appears that the compare strings in the releases no longer function
doesn't show the commits between tags
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 02 2018 03:05 UTC
Carnifexen and Hive guard unchanged, apparently
Now OF COURSE this guy has access to the whole thing, evidently...but...doesn't play Imperial so "didn't read it"
GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
tekton
@tekton
Dec 02 2018 07:27 UTC
I think I’m finally done traveling for the year...
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 02 2018 07:42 UTC
@kohato, I've fixed the releases. The links are apparently case-sensitive and tag8833 used a V in his releases.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 11:10 UTC
That leak guy needs a serious batman punching. WHERE ARE THEY?!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 12:47 UTC
Ohhh, that makes sense, never thought to check that
danke!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 14:57 UTC
the lack of leaks is slowly, low-key starting to aggravate me. All that teasing... bad.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 02 2018 14:57 UTC
Agreed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 17:38 UTC
This.
This is art.
tekton
@tekton
Dec 02 2018 17:40 UTC
Indeed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:05 UTC
Anyone have any use for Khorne 7th ed tactical cards?
next week. sooooooooooooooon.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:26 UTC
" followed by rules for narrative-driven Specialist Detachments that represent some of the battle formations fighting on Vigilus."
Interesting, I wonder if they're locked to Narrative/Open only
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 18:27 UTC
narrative driven does no mean open only... i mean many things are narrative driven e.g. fluffy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:28 UTC
Even if not - that siegebreaker cohort is hardly game breaking. IT seems you spend 1 CP to unlock a relic, WT, and strategems.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 18:28 UTC
yep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:29 UTC
Makes me happier about those for sure
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 18:54 UTC
depends
intercessors arent exactly beasts.
If the admech detachment boosts kastelans... considering they're not nerfed into the ground, points wise, that one could hurt
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:55 UTC
Sure, but say for 3 CP?
1 CP to enable it, then 2CP for the strat to boost them?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 18:55 UTC
considering the CP hogs they already are, that would be close to unusable
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:56 UTC
That's what I mean, If that's all the detachments are giving is strats and a relic/WT option, that's fine by me.
Still sad Crons and Tau dont' get any but meh
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 18:57 UTC
wrath of mars + elimination volley already is.. 3 or 4 CP. Add 1 for the detachment, its one combined use and you're out...
But we'll see. a 6 man squad, split firing, can delete several units potentially, depending on what the new stratagems are, how much they cost and how you roll the dice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 18:58 UTC
Yea. Not a fan overall of detachments coming back, especially when not everyone has them - but this seems the tamest way to do so.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 19:43 UTC
agreed, but the IF detachment seems a bit TOO tame
officially confirmed
whatever they do, we complain :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 19:51 UTC
?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 19:52 UTC
I retract my previous statement. IF get Wrath of Mars Stratagem vs vehicles for half the points cost.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 20:06 UTC
Is it half?
remember, you pay to have the privilage of even having it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 20:24 UTC
wrath is 2 CP
IF is 1 CP
so paying the privilege + using it is the same cost
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 20:28 UTC
Deathwatch already have "Death to the Alien"
which is a similar effect but against non-imperium / chaos units
(1 CP)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 02 2018 20:29 UTC
Right, so there's no advantage there
Same cost but vs vehicles.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 20:29 UTC
which is a bit of a broader spectrum, but I see
1 cp with limitations
2 without
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 02 2018 20:53 UTC
Any word on if the rumors of a BT one are confirmed?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 20:55 UTC
narp
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 21:03 UTC
sorry, I lied
"Death to the Alien" gives you another attack on a 6+
not mortal wounds
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 21:04 UTC
thats way worse
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 21:05 UTC
yeah, I didn't read the new stratagem properly
:smile:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 21:49 UTC
have you seen the tokens with the Chapter Approved special edition...?? looks like "hard cover" and "soft cover" tokens
so, perhaps +1 and +2 to cover saves
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 22:03 UTC
makes sense with the removal of -1 to hit
but they need something for the vindicare
already has a 4+, no save and -2 to hit when in cover...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 22:08 UTC
that's the second time I've heard someone mention the removal of -1 to hit...
where is the source??
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 22:09 UTC
just a popular theory
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 22:09 UTC
:+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 22:09 UTC
and the soft/hard cover strengthens that theory
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 02 2018 22:10 UTC
fabulous
should be interesting then
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 22:11 UTC
its a bit weird... agripina suddenly has a 2+ in cover on everything
but we'll see, I dont play such armies, therefore I dont care ;)
tekton
@tekton
Dec 02 2018 22:16 UTC
Since my AdMech are painting Deimos it’s easy to run them as whatever ;)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 02 2018 22:17 UTC
admech colours are not as iconic as SM colours, so you can make up anything and noone bats an eye :P
forgeworld influenced by ryza, still showing dedication to mars by using red? Done.
tekton
@tekton
Dec 02 2018 22:18 UTC
For most I can see that...