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9th
Dec 2018
tekton
@tekton
Dec 09 2018 04:28
Has anyone started on the Tau changes?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 04:39
Did the last cannon not change even though the twin Las cannon did?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 04:49
did i share my DA successor army here https://imgur.com/gallery/hmAWp4k
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 04:52
....
Ummmmmm
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe clicked on that link, obviously
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 04:53
start with Azrael @Thairne can't go wrong
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 04:53
Wow. That's pretty fantastic.
The banner in the second pic is...magnifique
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 04:54
thank ye
what catalog files haven't been updated yet?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 05:00
wow nobody's touched Astra Millitarum?
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe arches an eyebrow
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 05:01
I beg your pardon?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 05:02
is it on another branch?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 05:03
....
OH MY FUCKING FUCK
Where did my branch go?????
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 05:04
hopefully on your workstation
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 05:04
Um
It was named Guard_CA2018
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 05:05
git push origin Guard_CA2018
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 09 2018 05:07
Okay that was...unexpected
It's there now
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 05:17
looks like it was already merged into master
but then reverted?
I might work on Grey Knights or Blood Angels
tekton
@tekton
Dec 09 2018 05:24
GK are done- it’s just in my repo
@axisofentropy and I think @alphalas already did BA?
ok, GK merged in to the branch
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 05:28
@CrusherJoe just merge your branch into the core chapter approved branch like I did the DW one
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 09:41

start with Azrael @Thairne can't go wrong

I was hoping for a new model for a long time... But I dont think I'd like Primaris Azrael. So.. yes.

Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 14:59
Which files haven't been updated now?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 09 2018 15:15
Don't think anyone's done Tau yet. @amis92?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:21
@Thairne
Perhaps hide "Field Commander" if one of the two specialists hasn't been taken?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 16:25
I was about to do my usual “please don’t work on files and commit changes without first checking in with us” spiel
@tag8833 I keep forgetting you’re Troy
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:26
Hahah
Tag is orkman prime.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:27
Sorry, would it be better if I update my display name somewhere?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:27
? Looks fine. You show as troy to me.
with a damned adorable dog as your pic,.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 16:28
roight, gonna fix that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:29
I wish you could hide categories too
I've been putzing for a bit trying and can't figure out a clean way to do it.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 16:29
didnt even bother with adding categories.. thats what BS 2.0 is sposed to do, isnt it?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:30
I don't recall, it's been so long.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 16:31
shots fired :P
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:31
Also - either you or (probably me) added a "New SelectionEntry Group" to the Warlord SE.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 16:31
likely me xD
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:31
nothin in it, just empty - so if you wanna nix that too :p
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 16:33
@tag8833 I just didn’t remember lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:33
Sorry @Thairne I don't get fancy detachments in IK or Crons, so I peaked into my other army :p Looks good otherwise :D
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:43
Also @tag8833 put CA stuff in master.
Rather than do another revert and commit to branch - shall we just moritorium a release until next sat?
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:43
I didn't do any CA stuff. As far as I know Orks didn't get any CA updates.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:43
oh derp
nvm
I read a commit note wrong
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:44
lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:44
You right!
I meant vigilus
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:44
Put that straight into the master rather than in a branch?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:44
no, put that in the CA branch
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:44
tbf we might as well merge branch to master and moratorium release
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:44
or that
Idk
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:44
easier for workflows
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:44
Can do a final release then do that?
since Troy did some live ork fixes
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:45
yeah, may as well
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:45
I'll push a rlease now then
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:45
Ah, cool. Will do. I don't have good info on the Vigilis stuff yet. I'll get started on it, if someone can link me to the info.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:46
there are a few reviews up, no direct page pulls yet sadly
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:46
Only info we really have is a YT walkthrough
no screens yet
it's decent quality, if you sqint
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:46
but orks got more than most
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:46
The fucking shok gun
is nasty
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:46
new orks are the nastiest they've been since late 4th early 5th
I had a game vs them last weekend, and my eldar were hard pressed to pull a win
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:47
Isn't the Shokk attack gun just changing 1 MW to D3 if you roll an 11 or 12 on 2D6?
Adam Vollrath
@axisofentropy
Dec 09 2018 16:47
got Tau
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:47
D3 > D6 Damage, Heavy D6 > Heavy 2D6 shots.
Plus the D3 mortals.
@/all - I've pushed our final pre-CA release. Feel free to commit to master with CA and vigilus stuff.
we'll hold off of any new release til next sat.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:51
Has anyone done FW astartes yet?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 09 2018 16:51
Perfect 👌 I'll try to fire up the cogitator then, if there's anything left that @WindstormSCR hasn't already covered :smile:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:52
@FarseerVeraenthis can you double check wraithguard are correctly implemented/costed? something felt hinky there, and a second set of eyes might be helpful
also I need to put in the tantalus, but otherwise done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:52
If someone wants to merge the branch to master, feel free
I have to go here shortly - otherwise I'll crunch them tonight.
Troy Graber
@tag8833
Dec 09 2018 16:53
At the last local RTT I took out my Orks. I only played 6 turns in a 3 round tourney, and all of my opponents were either tabled or had conceeded.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:54
merged
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:54
nice, kill the extra branch too
so we dont' have accidental commits to it
Then we GOLDEN!
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:56
had to close a few pull requests made by people who didn't come talk to us first, as usual
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:56
Happens, I just close them, take the changes I can take, then explain in teh pull.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:56
you might want to check those three then, the BA one looked ok
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 16:57
I meant for my cats :p I don't know nothin about BA.
Though if Crowbar doesn't pop on in the next few days, I can throw the changes in
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 16:57
I'll handle FW astartes
since I want to list tinker, and it's not done :P
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 17:09
FW astartes done
and oh what a joy it is
the LR achilles dropped by a full 100 points!
because multi-melta reductions and LR base hull reductions
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:20
@Kohato no reason to apologize, the more bugs we find before the release, the better ;)
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 17:21
So I did some math and looked like for 90 points I can get 5 company vets with power swords and pair them with Helbrecht and then use the Suffer Not strat and they will kill an average of 10 marines lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:28
that sounds... effective
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 17:29
BTs are actually pretty boss with the new detach
and better yet, with the stormshield reduction you can use the awesome sword bretheren models from FW and not feel bad
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:29
just dont purge all the xenos, ok? Leave some so we can dissect them and steal their tech...
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 17:30
@Thairne why do you think I run a DA techmarine as my support HQ? the only thing more poetic than a dead xenos, is a xenos purged with thier own technology
something something xenophase blades vs lychguard
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:30
lol
that is the most admechy thing said today :P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:31
xD
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 17:32
There are a lot of complaints that the BT detach doesn't affect TDA
Which I get, they are sword Brethren after all lol
Or VV and sternguard for that matter
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 17:48
what happens to a dude if he gets the terminator honours? does he seize to be one, is it like a rank?
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 17:51
No, Sword Brethren are basically all of the veterans in a crusade and make up the Marshal's Household
It's what you are promoted to from Initiate (basic marine guy)
And they are no longer responsible for training Neophytes and instead receive additional training themselves, most notably in the use of tda
^that bit is from the 4th Ed codex
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 18:15
has regular SM been done yet?
if not I have half an hour or so
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 18:20
I could probably work on it tonight if needed
But it'd be later like after 9
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 18:22
I'm half done already
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 18:23
Lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 18:40
and done!
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 19:03
Sweet!
When do we push to the master?
CanisLupus518
@CanisLupus518
Dec 09 2018 19:16
Did i do something wrong with #3970?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 19:39
@CanisLupus518 I think @CrusherJoe (the wolves maintainer) fixed them himself
CanisLupus518
@CanisLupus518
Dec 09 2018 19:50
@alphalas but they aren't fixed? They are still broken in master
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 09 2018 19:54
it may be he was working on the files, the files sorta break when more than one person works on them, did you ask him before you started?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 20:03
Now Alex
Ca is merged to master. No more releases till Saturday so merge to master as needed
Alex Baur
@acebaur
Dec 09 2018 20:16
:+1:
Let the list building begin!
CanisLupus518
@CanisLupus518
Dec 09 2018 20:17
@CloverFox I didn’t ask him. I can coordinate. @CrusherJoe are you accepting help on Space Wolves?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 20:59
@CanisLupus518 its because of the crappy way the BS gui editor handles the files, it has a conniption half the time if multiple people make simultaneous edits instead of sequential, and joe did some edits since your pull version
CanisLupus518
@CanisLupus518
Dec 09 2018 21:14
thats fine, i could have updated the branch with his updates and fixed it for the PR instead of it being closed
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 21:26
you should be able to rebase to master and then make a PR to master
CanisLupus518
@CanisLupus518
Dec 09 2018 21:31
Yes, but i could have done that within the existing PR. Just thought it was weird to have to make a new one
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 21:34
we wanted to close the branch to avoid commits to the wrong branch
can't do that with open PRs
also we get a lot of PRs from people without them coming to coordinate
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 21:45
^this
See also my earlier comment to @tag8833 about my spiel
Thairne @Thairne cracks back
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 09 2018 21:50
good lord, why are skitarii so... time intensive to paint... I think it took me the better part of 1,5 weeks to get them basecoated. Thats about 1,5h per model...
tekton
@tekton
Dec 09 2018 22:38
@Thairne i'm still not sure how I did 10 of them in 14 hours...but such is the life of tournaments sometimes
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 22:39
@tekton that’s like one of the 30k commission painters out here apparently got blackout drunk, and then painted up a 30k gulliman in about 2 hours
I’ve seen the mini - it was stunningly good lol
tekton
@tekton
Dec 09 2018 22:42
awesome
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 09 2018 22:56
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 23:02
@Thairne we on master now yo!
:p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 09 2018 23:13
Drunk painting. Amazing and unbelievable. Or horrible and nightmarish
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 09 2018 23:30

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - FW Elysians) [55 PL, 926pts] ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Elysian

  • HQ [6 PL, 88pts] +

Elysian Company Commander [3 PL, 48pts]: Display Elysian Orders, Krak grenade, Lasgun and Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Power fist [8pts], The Laurels of Command

Elysian Company Commander [3 PL, 40pts]: Display Elysian Orders, Krak grenade, Kurov's Aquila, Lasgun and Auxiliary Grenade Launcher

  • Troops [12 PL, 180pts] +

Elysian Drop Trooper Squad [4 PL, 60pts]
Guardsman w/ Vox Caster [10pts]: Krak grenade
7x Guardsman w/Lasgun, Frag & Krak Grenades [35pts]
Guardsman w/Special Weapon [10pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts], Krak grenade
Sergeant [5pts]: Krak grenade, Lasgun

Elysian Drop Trooper Squad [4 PL, 60pts]
Guardsman w/ Vox Caster [10pts]: Krak grenade
7x Guardsman w/Lasgun, Frag & Krak Grenades [35pts]
Guardsman w/Special Weapon [10pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts], Krak grenade
Sergeant [5pts]: Krak grenade, Lasgun

Elysian Drop Trooper Squad [4 PL, 60pts]
Guardsman w/ Vox Caster [10pts]: Krak grenade
7x Guardsman w/Lasgun, Frag & Krak Grenades [35pts]
Guardsman w/Special Weapon [10pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts], Krak grenade
Sergeant [5pts]: Krak grenade, Lasgun

  • Elites [12 PL, 194pts] +

Elysian Command Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Vox-caster [12pts]: Krak grenade, Lasgun

Elysian Command Squad [4 PL, 72pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Special Weapon [20pts]: Krak grenade, Plasma gun [13pts]
Veteran w/ Vox-caster [12pts]: Krak grenade, Lasgun

Officer of the Fleet [2 PL, 25pts]

Officer of the Fleet [2 PL, 25pts]

  • Fast Attack [8 PL, 184pts] +

Tauros Venator [4 PL, 92pts]
Tauros Venator [4 PL, 92pts]: Hunter-killer missile [6pts], Twin lascannon [40pts]

Tauros Venator [4 PL, 92pts]
Tauros Venator [4 PL, 92pts]: Hunter-killer missile [6pts], Twin lascannon [40pts]

  • Heavy Support [6 PL, 120pts] +

Cyclops Demolition Vehicle [6 PL, 120pts]: Cyclops [3 PL, 60pts], Cyclops [3 PL, 60pts]

  • Flyer [11 PL, 160pts] +

Vulture Gunship [11 PL, 160pts]
Vulture Gunship [11 PL, 160pts]: Heavy bolter [8pts], Twin Punisher Gatling Cannons [40pts]

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Imperium - FW Elysians) [77 PL, 1070pts] ++

  • No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Elysian

  • Flyer [77 PL, 1070pts] +

Avenger Strike Fighter [14 PL, 230pts]: 2x Lascannon [40pts], Two Missile Launchers [40pts]

Valkyries [39 PL, 504pts]
Valkyrie [8 PL, 168pts]: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods [22pts], Lascannon [20pts]
2x Heavy Bolters [16pts]: 2x Heavy bolter [16pts]
Valkyrie [8 PL, 168pts]: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods [22pts], Lascannon [20pts]
2x Heavy Bolters [16pts]: 2x Heavy bolter [16pts]
Valkyrie [8 PL, 168pts]: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods [22pts], Lascannon [20pts]
2x Heavy Bolters [16pts]: 2x Heavy bolter [16pts]

Valkyries [24 PL, 336pts]
Valkyrie [8 PL, 168pts]: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods [22pts], Lascannon [20pts]
2x Heavy Bolters [16pts]: 2x Heavy bolter [16pts]
Valkyrie [8 PL, 168pts]: 2x Multiple Rocket Pods [22pts], Lascannon [20pts]
2x Heavy Bolters [16pts]: 2x Heavy bolter [16pts]

@GenWilhelm thoughts?