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18th
Dec 2018
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 00:02
Holy fuck i'm a dumb ass
I just realized the back end of the exacto blade is a scraper.
tekton
@tekton
Dec 18 2018 00:16
@Kohato it certainly can be
@WindstormSCR yay bread! (sadly things I can't eat)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 00:21
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No, like mine actually seems to be made to do that on the back half of the back lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 00:32
Oii BA intersessors weren’t updated by the dude to have PF
I’ll have to implement that
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 18 2018 01:00
SM has intercessors done the easiest way I could think of for all-one-weapon cats
could do it similar to eldar, but then you have to mess with the weapon costs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 01:06
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Bit of green stuff to touch up and I have a heavy destroyer for 15$ less than GW wants.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 01:55
Nice
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 10:08
so.... I'm sure I read / saw that the campaign rules included some cards you could build in a folder and track your campaign or something
I've not read all the books thoroughly yet, but am I crazy??
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 10:11
there's nothing like that in the book...
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 10:15
yeah, I'm sure I saw something, but maybe not...
I'm glad I've not missed anything though :-)
right, found it :smile:
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 18 2018 10:19
are you thinking of the new city fight?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 10:19
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Urban Conquest is perfect for gaming groups and clubs looking to add an extra dimension to their battles – keep an eye out for more news on what the set means for you in the new year.
"in the new year"
so @CloverFox yes, it would appear I was
:+1:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 11:43
I started to watch Helsreach 30 mins ago.
I was not prepared.
Damn.
I was so NOT prepared.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:25
"I will Die ... on this planet!"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:26
I was even less prepared than I thought I was not prepared.
this is the most beautiful thing I have seen in my life (and I've seen just yesterday my father smile holding his grandkid, my niece)
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:27
yeah I REALLY like the first few ... and the way the art style progressively gets clearer as they go (not necessarily better) just clearer
I presume you know it's the guy GW have hired to do their Blood Angels animated series
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:28
thats why I finally checked it out
I had a look a few years ago and was like "eh, b&w pencil drawings?"
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:29
aaah yeah .. I should scroll up a lot more lol
yeah the very first episode almost lost me with the artsy style .. but perserverence really paid off here
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:30
he did link em together into a 1:28h movie, that's what I'm watching right now
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:30
there's one ep. later on where there are what I term "Bouncy Marines" ... attacks don't connect with any impact ... and one chainswords a tank hatch like a knif through butter that was pretty meh .. but overall ..9.99999999/10

he also did a live action short called guardsman ... thematically ok .. but the power armour let it down ...

I watched a few of the "Astartes" ones that were good .. which led me down an "Inquisitor" rabbit hole ... and "Death of hope"

there's a LOT of fan talent out there right now
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:32
guardsman was epic
the power armor was not CGI, you're aware of that, yes? :P That is a real dude in a "real" suit :P
Astartes is brilliant in its depiction of the marines, I'm dieing for part 3
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 12:33
Isn’t death of hope the HH one!
?*
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:33
it is, when world eaters attack calth
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:34
yup, which is why I thought it wasn't a perfect score .... the PA was ace but the heraldry was stickers and there were bubbles under the stickers ... I dunno I just couldn't get so ... into .. it.

Isn’t death of hope the HH one!

I watched the guys 'making of' vid ... he'd never done animation before and the fights were done with mo-Cap ... honestly I can forgive a LOT of stuff that folks on the GW Facebook were complaining at ..

Man when did FB become such a cesspool on GW ?

Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:38

well I'm sure if he could actually build a real suit of power armour he would've :P
Also, as someone that tried and failed a few times (miserably) at building one... It is harder than it looks and the one in the flick actually is damn good ;)

Eh. Its the internet. Whiners will whine.

This is a magnetic field stabilizer housing.

I need a tattoo of that xD

Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:44
don't get me wrong ... it was really really well done ... but my stupid brain just kept going "Cardboard ... and paint ... not going to stop a genestealer ...!"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:45
well neither does Terminator Armor xD
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:45
heheh yeah true
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:46
were those stealers though? Looked more like gaunts?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:47
no idea ... crappy work monitor on lunch and low res ...
took a power fist to the face nicely though whatever bug it was
compared to the pewpewpewpew lasgun
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:48
flashlights gonna flash
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:49
I really lol'ed at that ... "try a single shot ... nope ... Semi Auto .... damn .. still nope ..... FULL AUTTOOOO RRRAAGGH ........ ohcrap!"
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:49
and STILL alive!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:49
Emperor protects
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 12:50
Yes... he does.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:53
You guys seen the new LVO clarifications ?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 12:54
about terrain?
yeah, i saw something
flyers cant hide in buildings, and boxes count as hills. is that about the gist of it?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:56

and use Wobbly model for assaulting the first level of a ruin ...

Apart from the hiding inside shoe boxes ... I kinda agree on most counts

"nahh nahh you can't get me in here!" has no part in 40K
especially if that means mortars and hive guard
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 12:57
lmao. was about to mention putting mortars in an enclosed space
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 12:58
"FIIIRE!" ..... "But Sir, the roof ...." "I said FIIIIRE!"
and LOL they used Necrons in all the example pics ... first time we featured at a competitive event heheheh
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 13:03
link?? or is it a simple Google search
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 13:05
for the helreach video(s)???
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 13:06
oh, my b :smile:
that should be a link to the playlist
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 13:40
which I shouldn't have started watching at work...
I'll catch up later :+1:
@Thairne I now know what you mean about not being prepared :wink:
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 13:45
Dudes
I had my GF read helsreach and the follow up book
She loved it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 14:21
:+1:
and now she's your wife...?!?!?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 14:24
Eventually lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 14:28
hehehehe
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 14:50
So
Remember how I was discussing the ETC format being used by ITC at LVO?
(wow that was a LOT of acronyms)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 14:51
(OK, that's a lot of acronyms...)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 14:51
(thank you)
Anyway
Check out that video and tell me if that's not a sign that we are, in fact, the kings. :)
Or
Please tell me where I'm wrong and it's not a straight copypasta from Battlescribe text output
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 14:56
well, I watched some minutes and it did seem like someone was telling you to output it from Battlescribe using the text output
just using 6 minutes worth of words to do it
(I'm at work, so I couldn't even hear the words - I just know they are there)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 15:11
Yeah pretty much it was just copy-paste lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 15:22
Hail to the King baby !
any news from the GW army builder in the last 12 months btw ?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:23
what news are you expecting??
they've delivered Combat Roster
and Kill team: Command Roster
surely that answers all of your questions?????
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 15:24
About once a week I light a candle and pour one out to our poor lost soul dev that is trying to make the GW roster builder by himself
He's probably in a mental health care facility by now in a niiiiiice comfy padded room muttering "The points...they keep changing...I was almost done...then Chapter Approved...can't...do...it...all by myself," over and over
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 15:28
lol, well @CrusherJoe that's kinda what I expected ... a eulogy delivered by TSOALR on facebook via GW community with some added scorn for those who would attempt such a feat
"Look, the CEO's cousin Jeff who knows the cyber couldn't do it ... so none of you should try ... we warned you!"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 15:29
I mean at this point he's probably looking forward to his daily ECT sessions
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 15:30
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revised The Eight
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 15:31
You know on the screen that looks like some Sumerian script on summoning Cthulu
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:31
looks much neater
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 15:31
Is there an Elder Sign in there somewhere?
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 15:33

LOL

Revised the Eight

I mean at this point he's probably looking forward to his daily ECT sessions
truer words spoken in jest at just the right time
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 15:35
LOL
Don't you just love synchronicity?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 15:46
#4241 if anyone wants to suggest any changes
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:53
12 issues?!?!?!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:54
??
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:55
I opened the PR from @GenWilhelm and saw there were a whole 12 issues all of a sudden
I thought we were down to nearly 0 yesterday??
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:55
That's just the 12 left after me triaging all day. There were 21 when I got to work this morning
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:55
righto, but are they really all new issues??
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:56
the open ones are all valid.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:56
:frowning:
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:57
We've closed 21 tickets today.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:57
:+1:
that's pretty groovy then :smile:
imagine doing all of it by yourself (see previous discussion about Combat Roster)
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:58
10 of those were dupes or already fixed.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 15:58
imagine getting paid for it :stuck_out_tongue:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 15:59
hmmm... I'm not sure it would be possible to be paid enough
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 15:59
It's not the work, it's the grief
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 16:00
imagine going to bed at night and knowning that while you were sleeping the tickets would keep piling up and there was nothing you could do about them
and, as @Mad-Spy says, people are can be unreasonably entitled
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 16:01
@GenWilhelm, have you taken over BA, or are you just covering?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 16:01
you would have to effectively work directly off the Master, and that would have to be instantly available as soon as it was updated
otherwise, you'd spend so much time closing duplicate issues you wouldn't be able to make any progress with new ones
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 16:02
dunno, just covering, i guess.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Dec 18 2018 16:02
Then imagine .. the GW IP/Apps/marketing guys .."Hi just popping in to see how much progress you've made .. Ummm... why are you uncontrollably sobbing?.... no no ... please put the Uzi down!"
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 16:03
@alphalas said he would take them over, but he has his own open issues atm, so i though i would just clean up the unassigned ones
oh, there's a FWAA one there as well
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 16:05
Since the CA release we've had 24 cost duplicates in 57 tickets
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 16:06
and how many deprecated?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 16:06
14
plus the 7 open cost-related tickets
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 16:09
that seems pretty low. i thought we had just passed 4000 tickets when CA launched?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 16:09
CA was released 05:11 on the 15th
oops
forgot the time element in my search so was excluding the 15th...
116 closed cost-related tickets, 42 dupes, 16 deprecated
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 16:14
:+1:
Elysian Lord Commissar with Lasgun/Aux Grenade launcher - because krak grenading a deserter or a heretic is better then just boltering it
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Dec 18 2018 16:48
@/all Please share your opinions: BSData/wh40k#4241 (Tau The Eight)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 18 2018 17:10
The FWAA one was a by design, I’ve closed it with an explanation
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:19
#4236 wut? I don't recall changing anything that would have broken that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 17:20
did they have it at any point?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:20
Yes I had relic validation working 100%
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 17:20
because i think OP is mistaken that they used to have it
idk then
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:22
Perhaps I should go back a version or two before CA updates
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 17:24
OK, so I just created a list using v58, I have two relics selected, there are no errors
however, I also didn't have an option to select the "I want to pay CP's for Relics please" selection from the No Force Org Slot
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:24
So what's missing is the No Force Org Chart selector for Trophies of Fenris
Hmmmmmm
I'll bet it's missing a root entry
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 18 2018 17:25
but that's what the Error is all about :smile:
and now I get to go battle the rain, traffic and then some furniture all before my little boy goes to bed...
inabit!!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 17:25
removed here
BSData/wh40k@2bd4272
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:26
What the actual fuck
Well at least it's easy to fix I think
Just re-add a root entry
Because the other stuff is still there
That's kinda crazy
Hmmmmm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 17:35
Good god, nearly 2000 issues in less than a year
anon is a busy beaver
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:41
So can someone look at the logic for Intercessors in Wolves with Auto Bolt Rifles
I think I should set the points to 0 then increment by 1 as it is now
So if I set the points to 0 for the Auto Bolt Rifle (collective) to 0 and then let the modifier/repeat do it's thing
This is how it is now
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:46
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In the collective entry it's set points to 1
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 17:57
Ah found it...was incrementing on model not Intercessor
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:10
Okay knocked out the Wolfy fleas
And fixed a couple of minor Guard bugs while I was in there
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:14
....god damnit Beddoe
I was in the files
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:14
:(
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:14
Well fuck I'll just revert 'em and you can do 'em yourself LOL
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:14
I found more false warlord trait requires
They’re popping up all over the place
I’m gunna have to go over all the characters again
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:15
wonder why they're popping up now
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:15
that's...fucked up
Wait...how do I revert a commit? I'm not seeing the option
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:16
Maybe has to do with the wlt changes I had you make @Kohato
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:16
Ah shit, that might explain it
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:16
Thinking it’s that or the xml just went well fuck you lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:16
though I didn't change any min/max :/
Just moved things out of SSEG to SE.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:17
I have a feeling I originally implemented them less then optimally
And somehow the changes you made interact weird
Idk
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:17
....why can't I revert my commits?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:18
@alphalas may have to
since he's flagged as codeowner
Idk, reversions in git are foreign to me.
I just do it right the first time :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:19
Well if someone would learn how to use branches we wouldn't have this problem....just sayin'. :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:19
If I don't use branches I don't have the chance to let them sit for weeks ;)
Just sayin
lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:20
You'll note my branches have all been pruned
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:20
hahaha
So proud
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:20
Ah I found it
Have to look at the closed PRs
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:21
Ohhh, that'd make sense
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 18:23
Okay both changes reverted
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:33
I so wish BS wasn’t such garbage with XML
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:49
How dare you. BS and it's handling of xml is nothing short of super
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 18:51
would probably be better to wish for BS using something else other than xml
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 18:54
Ah, #4252 - I want to play with other people's toys as well as my own. :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 18 2018 18:55
when you omit the inconvenient parts of rules text, you can!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:57
Why read the whole book?
Piffle.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 18:57
@alphalas, re #4226. The set min 1 modifier was/is missing the "and child selections" flag, which might partially explain it, but that didn't seem to solve it when I played earlier.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 18 2018 18:58
Hmm, I wonder if that got unchecked when I moved them out of the SSEG
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 18:59
I’m finding it in DK too
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 18:59
I'd still advocate for hiding the entire Warlord Traits SSEG when there's no Warlord selection. Also, I thought we'd moved over to using local Warlord SSEs with the Warlord category for validation?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 18 2018 19:33
The sseg should hide when no wl
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 18 2018 19:46
Only the inner one was hiding, not the one which contains both the Codex and BRB traits
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 18 2018 19:53
@axisofentropy which shapeways vendor did you get the angels of absolution shoulderpads from? Pop or one of the others?
just curious what the quality was like if it was one of the others
tekton
@tekton
Dec 18 2018 20:52
@Kohato its a decent count of issues 2000, but the community has also grown a lot and I think a few of us are more vocal about getting said communities to put in things they think are wrong
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Dec 18 2018 21:15

#4252 Ah that guy. I remember the same ticket with the same request on.. sunday or something.

Told him a Ravenwing Attack Squadron calls for DARK ANGELS, therefore DARK ANGELS cannot be SPACE MARINES because.. what?
Obviously he disagreed...

Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 18 2018 22:36
People in Hell want ice water, too
tekton
@tekton
Dec 18 2018 23:04
That reminds me, I should get some water...