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23rd
Dec 2018
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:01
i quit reading BL stuff since anything i lately read from them was bad except the new inquisitor novel, but i will give some guys youmentioned a try
first working trhough some stuff on this list
some are questionable choices IMO but it has some gems
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:02
I'm a fan of mil scifi, which is a sadly lacking genre these days
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:03
what you dont like reading 234452345234656 david weber novels?^^
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:04
wc bauer did a couple interesting ones lately, though its still amateurish
and Nylund hasn't done any quality work since the Halo series :(
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:04
you might like to hear then that there was some kind of battletech reboot a while ago
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:04
some of the books he did and the writing for bungie on that were the best parts about that game series
the story quality has gone noticeably down since he left the project after bungie's exit, I dunno if he worked on destiny or not
Contact: Harvest was particularly good
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:07
is it a standalone or book tothe game?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:08
yep
there's bits in there you'll get more easily if you've played 1 and 2
but not required
the author credit is joseph staten, but he and eric nylund were swapping credits and did roughly equal work on each book
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:09
then added to the list. starting to look like my painting backlog :(
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:09
heh
what armies have you played post-CA?
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:12
tau, space wolves, knights
and a smal admche detachement to the knights
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:12
how were tau?
my friend who plays them didn't have much luck his first post-ca game
eldar are a bit of a puzzle, but working wraithknights is a nice thing
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:14
tau didnt get a lot of changes. basically units that didnt much play got cheaper. i think the main difference is you might now see more broadsides
since crisis got nerved hard with the mantis drop only at turn 2, misslesides are starting to look a lot more interesting with the point changes. one of the FW suits too. rest of the stuff will still not see much play and since already popular units didnt get a drop, i dont think there will be many changes in listbuilding besides that
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:16
ah
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:17
piranhas ( bikes) got cheaper too and some might squize 2 in for object grapping but everything you cant protect with drones isnt that interesting in a hard list tbh
what did he play?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 00:33
I don't know the exact list, I know he's stuck with farsight since that's what his are painted as
very crisis heavy
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:41
not much on the table first round hm?^^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:45
@H4lek1n I used to play the p&p game Cyberpunk 2020
...in the 90s.
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe is...old. Geez.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:47
he might want to build the list more around firewarriors and riptides. with 30 firewarriors and 2 riptides he has still lots of points for a fluffy list or crisis heavy list. tbh i believe the more firewarriors and riptides the better it will go. but i dont think he will like that advice with a crisis farsight list^^
@CrusherJoe p&p i played shadowrun. with cyberpunk i meant the genre
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:49
I can list my top 10 cyberpunk novels: 1-5 Snow Crash, by Neal Stevenson 6. Mona Lisa Overdrive 7. Hardwired 8. Islands in the Net 9. Neuromancer 10. Count Zero
Oh I played the shit out of Shadowrun
And if you haven't read Snow Crash you really should stop whatever you're doing and go get a copy and read it.
@WindstormSCR I won't insult you by asking if you've read the Honor Harrington novels. :)
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:51
all those 10 were great. of the newer stuff richard morgan is really good. he might want to see a prostitute to get some stuff out of his system he seems to think about a lot, but still^^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:52
I'm making my way through The Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant right now.
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:56
netflix made mini series out off one of morgans novels. might actually be better than the novel since less slightly less misogynistic. i think every caberpunk fan will feel at home https://www.putlocker-hd.is/episodes/altered-carbon-season-1-episode-1/
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:56
Oh my yes
Altered Carbon was FANTASTIC
The GF and I binged through it in 2 days
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:57
i tried to read thomas covenant for a while now but always put it a side so far because of the number of novels^^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:59
I understand
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 00:59
to much of a backlog for 10 novels and the fact that the honor harrington novels are partly free on amazon got me sidetracked^^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 00:59
But I've read Wheel of Time and all of David Eddings' books...so long series don't bother me
Oh, also, Tad Williams
H4lek1n
@H4lek1n
Dec 23 2018 01:01
yeah its alright when you read them at the time and have to wait for the next novel. but a lot of authors get me bored in a series over time. for example i love the midkemia stuff from raymond feist, but i think i couldnt read them back to back
how is it with thomas covenant?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 01:37
in other news, I'm happy that the new daemons box will mean more slaneeshi daemons for my eldar to fight
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 01:39
I'm happy that my Slaaneshi daemons will have more Eldar to send to Slaanesh
"Slaanesh loves daemonettes. And to show our appreciation, we keep Slaanesh packed with fresh Eldar souls..."
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 23 2018 08:49
#4308 and #4083 warhammer and battlescribe are not a good place for the dyslexic
tekton
@tekton
Dec 23 2018 09:48
lol
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 15:32
What about lysdexia?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 19:41
@CrusherJoe exalted seeker chariot or two regulars
if someone is building themselves a daemon army (sans-nurgle)
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 23 2018 19:43
imo, exalted, unless its for a herald, cos the regular is >10 wounds so you can hide it, normal ones don't really do anything that seekers don't do
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:25
Hellflayers
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 20:28
so for those of us that don't play slannesh, what should my friend build?
he's doing khorne/tzeentch/slaanesh mix
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:31
Like a bn of each?
Fifty shades of pain.PNG
Daemonettes are cheap...but princes are expensive
With Slaanesh you need as many buffs as you can get
So 'nettes need -- desperately -- to be over 20 in a unit -- granted, not every unit, but yeah you need at least 1 or 2 to make them worth it
The Infernal Enrapturess is pretty much an auto-take
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 20:34
just for the chariot is all he asked me about
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:35
In my opinion, the only chariot worth considering is the Hellflayer
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 23 2018 20:35
ah
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:35
I have found them to be...sub-optimal
Especially when you have new fiends to roll out with
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 23 2018 20:36
on paper, herald on regular chariot gives the herald bonus but its a hugs ass base so you can cover a lot of ground
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:36
There is truth to that statement
But they aren't cheap
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 23 2018 20:37
and they didnt get hit by CA, as they are index only, so i think just taking 2 on foot is cheeper now?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 23 2018 20:40
Yeah getting ahold of the models is the real trick now as they're OOP (aren't they? or can you make one with the chariot kit?)
Personally I think heralds on steeds are the best...but yeah, they get point-pricey too
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Dec 23 2018 21:26
@/all, I won't be around until the end of the week now, so have a great festive season, however you are celebrating.
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Dec 23 2018 21:27
@Mad-Spy Best wishes for an awesome and safe holiday!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 23 2018 21:27
likewise, my dude, have a good one!
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 23 2018 21:28
happy hols
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 23 2018 21:49
Have a great time!! enjoy yourself and try to relax and recouperate
also, in other news, where is the Telemon dreadnought?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 23 2018 21:54
I can't find it in Custards, or FW AA, and my friend asked me ealier
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Dec 23 2018 22:02
it's only got beta rules, Simon, so you have to add the "Use Beta Rules" before it'll appear
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Dec 23 2018 22:41
@/all Anyone have the Wrath and Ruin (age of Sigmar) point values for the battalions?
Specifically looking for the points on “Boundless Hunt”