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26th
Dec 2018
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 00:57
Welcome to the fun that is ik lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 13:06
Happy Xmas Hangover eveyrone.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 13:29
@WindstormSCR Any particular reason Battle Honors is hidden by default in GST?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 13:44
Also - to save lines, you can hide things based on "Character" keyword :D
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 14:16
Morning y'all
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 14:27
There, no idea why you want to ... but you can now select Exalted Court for your Warlord in IK ... because you're allowed to.
But validation is now 1 line instead of more :D
Along with BH/CC stuff being 1 line each instead of 4 for the knights.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 14:48
Geebuz #4318 is actually worse now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:09
I renamed the title to what the only issue really is according to wind.
who seems to speak gibberish
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:31
Yeah I just re-did Intercestors in the wolves cat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:31
Nice
I'm finishing up Battle Honors in Crons now :D
GL on Imperium shit with BH crap :(
Damned links in nearly everything.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:31
Yeah...about that
LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:32
Not hard
Just tedium
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:32
I'm a sys/net admin
You just described 90% of my life
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:32
Wind took care of the brunt of the implementing.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:32
(until it gets scripted)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:33
I live to automate my own job :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:33
Yes sir
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:33
Gives me more time to BS here.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:33
I have a theory, which at one time I presented to my boss, and he 100% agreed with me
"The best sysadmins are the laziest sysadmins."
Because we don't want to do shit over and over...so we automate it
My perfect workday is one of coffee and comtemplation
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:34
Ayup
I tend to enjoy the days I get to build models here :p
I work in a secured room in a basement of one of our buildings so nobody comes by but the other IT guys here
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:35
Yeah I'm going to try out a slightly new & improved method of airbrushing daemonettes today lol
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:35
If I do my job right, I make coffee, and build things until something breaks upstairs and I get my steps in for the day :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:35
Have I mentioned that I love working from home?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:36
Haha
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:36
Wait, wait, wait
What's this "upstairs" business?
You don't do remote support?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:37
Both?
Hardware, I go there.
Software, remote.
Well, software - the Service desk takes care of it
So usually it's hardware unless the desk decided to be a pack of morons
which happens.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:38
Doesn't it, though
Ugh
I tell my people the only reason we have to go on-site is if we've fucked up
Which isn't entirely true but it sets the right tone
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:38
Yea, My old job was that.
When I was Tier 2 it was usally - why is this ticket getting to me?
"The software is broken" ... No it's not, if it was I'd hear about it from 8000 other people.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:39
You should have seen the "Should I Really Be Bothering Joe With My Question" flowchart that was on the door to my office a few years ago
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:39
But here, yea hardware breaks, Docks, connectors, etc. Quick trip upstairs beats trying to pull teeth from an end user to see what is actually wrong.
Haha I drilled something like that into my T1 at my old job
Ask me a question so you can learn and fix it yourself. Don't blindly send me shit because you don't know.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:41
It was <I have a problem> -> <Have you Googled it?> -> <Did you find your answer?> -> <Yes - Good job, problem solved> <No - Try again> ----> <back to Have you Googled it?>
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:42
Haha, we have that posted by the desk here - Though the end step is <Reimage>
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:42
So when someone actually opened my office door they were met with a raised eyebrow
And they would almost invariably start with, "I've tried Googling it, I swear!"
...which is all I really wanted, actually. Put some effort into finding the damned answer yourself. I don't mind helping, I really don't. I don't mind mentoring, either. Just don't expect me to do your damned job for you.
I also used to reply to emails with a link to lmgtfy.com with their question put in it
"Please refer to this link, you'll find the solution there."
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:45
Haha, Pretty much the correct answer to things.
Scripting problem? Have you tried Stackoverflow?
Anything else? Google?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:45
Amen to that
And Google does a good job of cataloging stackoverflow
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:46
Mmhmm, odds are unless you're running proprietary crap - you can find the answer on google.
That was the fun in my old job - IT for a tax firm. And it was decided to use a canadian software suite designed for small to small/mid size firms and customize and upscale it to the national level for use with 5000 employees and a hundred offices.
No googling that fucking shit.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:47
oh fuck that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:47
That was pretty much my job, knowing that software backwards and forwards.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:47
NOPE
How I LOATHE "financial" software
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:48
Among everything else the firm used, I was T2, so I had to know all that T1 knew :p
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:48
Especially fucking QuickBooks and PeachTree
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:48
Peachtree we used, QB sparingly.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:48
I mean, I get it
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:48
Caseware Working Papers was the software suite.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:48
It's pretty much the only answer in that space
But fuck those things. USE A REAL DATABASE, YOU FUCKERS
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:48
Mmm.
Yea.
We also used Lotus.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:49
"It says it's in single-user mode" reaches for shotgun
Notes?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:49
Now that was fun. Lotus Notes bastardized and upgraded.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:49
Lotus Notes?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:49
Ayup.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:50
GET THEE BEHIND ME, SATAN
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:50
I tell you what. I knew the programming and back end of our own ticketing software (CA) more than I knew what to fucking do with Lotus Notes.
I knew that because I kind of made a parser to auto create tickets from emails
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:51
LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:51
And holy fuck was that an ugly daisy chain of things.
Cause I got it to work from voicemails/missed SD calls too.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:51
Yeah we used to use ConnectWise and LabTech
Which was SUPPOSED to be "ready to use" right out of the box
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:52
Connectwise i've used.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:52
NOPE
SO MANY HOURS of my life I will never get back
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:52
We use Remedy here - I much prefer CA.
I could manipulate the fuck out of CA.
Remedy can go suck a bag of dicks.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 15:52
Yeah Remedy is trash
I finally got sick of all the bullshit and found a super-simplified ticket tracking system called FreshDesk
it just works, and it's cloud/web based
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 15:53
Oh nice
@Mad-Spy You ever get a copy of Wrath and Ruin stuff for the new models?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:05
I posted pics from it here Saturday
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:06
Nice
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:06
And I can re-post them if necessary
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:06
Didn't want to release if he was working on them
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:07
I think @Mad-Spy said he was out until the end of the week
I was briefly considering adding the Infernal Enrapturess to daemons but I didn't want to step on any toes
So right now my Slaanesh list has an 80 point hole in it LOL
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:10
She's the only new unit right?
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:11
On the Slaanesh side, yes. The Fiends datasheet got updated as well but that was also in CA and was already done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:11
I'll just add it then while i'm here in the editor since he's gone til next week.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:12
On the Khorne side I think -- think! -- Karanak is the other new entry
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:12
I'll tag him in the commit so he can edit it as he pleases when he's back.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:12
But every time I try to read something Khorne-related I fall asleep from boredom so I'm not sure
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:12
haha
Nah, he's in the cat
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:13
Karanak?
I think he got updated rules...or...something
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:14
I'll double check them with the pics you posted
he's not new at least I mean - he's in the cat now.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:16
You guys remember that scene from Guardians of the Galaxy where Thanos said, "Your politics bore me. Your demeanor is that of a pouty child."?
That's how I feel every time Khorne is brought up
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 16:29
Nope, no changes that I can see - or they were a part of CA and Iain already did them.
And added - I'll push a release, since BH/CC is all that's left :D And you can finally fill your 80 points.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 16:38
sweeeeeeeet
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Dec 26 2018 16:43
I know how you guys feel about proprietary software, I am currently 1st and 2nd level support as well as system development engineer for our ERP system.
I'd love to be able to say "have you googled it?" but most of the time that would probably cause more confusion... We'd have been much better off with SAP, but the company is too cheap... It's pretty tedious and boring but it seems to pay well.
I'd love to be able to kick back and do very little but, that's no bueno for me :frowning:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:30
@Kohato did you catch the thing where swarms dont get honors, and vehicle squadrons are on the vehicle not the parent?
just wanted to double check since I’m out for the day, and the ssegs were hide by default because otherwise I was getting weird behavior with them shiwing up when they were not supposed to
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:32
Aye - only affects 2 things for Crons. Scarabs and Sentry Pylons - respectively
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:32
So please do a bit of rigorous testing to make sure vehicle squadrons behave correctly
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 26 2018 17:33
Most characters that are vehicles aren’t squadrons @WindstormSCR
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:33
Shouldn't be any testing needed? I implement my squadrons correctly - so I linked the groups to the individual models
He means for Battle Honors Jon -
It calls out squadrons
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:33
vypers or war walkers in cwe were where the oddities proced the most
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:34
Not bad on IK - Only thing I tweaked was the hide logic.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 26 2018 17:34
Ohh I thought you guys were talking about the characters thing
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:34
just wanting to make sure it stays hidden and out of the way until someone selects something in narrative
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:34
I make use of <CHARACTER> so you can cut down the logic to that rather than each Character SE.
Well BH was Open or Narrative
CC was Open
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:35
yeah
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:35
But yea - it behaves right now in IK and crons
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:35
k
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:36
While implementing it though, I found out BS treats Categories like shared entries.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 26 2018 17:36
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:36
I tag the various Character things in IK (3 of them, yay strats) with <CHARACTER>
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:36
The reason I went with the activator is it actually reduces the memory load on mobile, since the thing isn’t loading the SSEG for every single unit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:36
And BS will validate based on count of category in parent with those :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Dec 26 2018 17:36
Is that just someone forgetting wargear costs are a thing again?
Kinda in the middle of getting ready for work
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:37
Haha, very likely jon
Closed another tau one for someone wondering why markerlight drones cost more.
what do you mean activator @WindstormSCR ?
In relation to IK you mean?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:38
Also the activator is handy since the SSEGs are huge selections panels
no, in general
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:38
Oh for sure.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:38
the “does thing have the system or not”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:38
Yea, we should definately hide
but implementation should be shown in Editor, then hide if not
rather than hide, then show if.
The logic being, if things bug out - the options are still shown for the user to manually validate
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:39
I was having difficulties, so I just made it work... old hanits
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:39
rather than shit just hiding.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:39
*habits
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:39
Haha
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:40
I might have some time to take a whack at some of the other catalogs later
probably crack SM out, so that’s done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:40
I changed it in GST and its working fine for crons/knights - which was it bugging out on with you?
I'll take a gander.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 17:41
Vypers and War walkers in CWE, if those work I’m not worried
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 17:41
Kk, I'll take a looksee
Seems to work fine
on current master (after the change I made)
Show/Hide is proper and PL seems to add.
I think you're golden :D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 18:03
As far as the battle honors system goes, I really do like it
Nothing world-changing that doesn’t cost more than it might actually be worth
but nice things here and there
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 18:28
:+1:
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Dec 26 2018 23:36
#4326 should i rename the issue since it was raised against the wrong file? or since its not a bug should i just leave it as is
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Dec 26 2018 23:43
Someone remind me that I need to fix the TH points on the Iron Priest
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Dec 26 2018 23:45
Hey Joe
Fix the th points on the iron priest
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Dec 26 2018 23:56
@CrusherJoe #4328