These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

25th
Jan 2019
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 00:06
@Kohato has anything from the spec detachments been put in yet for orks?
to save me crawling through the whole file
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 00:26
stompa mob was surprisingly easy
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 01:02
And that's orks done
wolves next
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 02:11
@WindstormSCR go ahead and fix vigilus for Guard
I too am neck deep in bullshit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 03:46
Sorry was out to dinner
Thanks for banging that out. To rest your mind no nothing had been done for vigilus
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 04:25
Well then
I'll double check that and see if any of the others need attnetion
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 07:34
wolves done
@CrusherJoe I unfucked the warlord traits hide system in the process
because hiding on links made me cringe and didn't work with the field commander thing
doing surgery on guard next
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 07:40
@alphalas bit of an odd implementation, but it actually works fine, I'm just going to put in the CP costs
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 08:04
and now, we are at that wonderful reported-bug-free state for a release!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 08:56
Wow! Incredible work @WindstormSCR!!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 09:13
So, new Custodes beta rules, with the accidentally leaked jump Custodes! https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Forgeworld_Custodes_Datasheets-1.pdf
66ppm, with 18" Pistol 2 S6 AP-2 D2, and a S6 AP - 2 D1 melee.
and a shield that negates AP -1
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 09:40
I just saw the post and was about to remark that the CAT needs updating
Aegis of the Emperor is powerful as well
the Custodes needed something to avoid mortal wounds in the psychic phase
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 09:45
Lastrum Storm Bolters with the new Beta Bolters rule are now significantly better than Heavy Bolters
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 09:46
They don't get it? Only ADEPTUS ASTARTES and HERETIC ASTARTES>
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 09:46
oh yeah!!
good point
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 09:47
More fun for @WindstormSCR! Adding in beta profiles which replace the standard ones, somehow.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 10:34
I’ll do custodes
It’ll just have to wait till Monday
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 12:00
@Mad-Spy I thought all of those datasheets were new? so people could use units from the HH series in WH40K??
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 12:01
most of them are updated versions of the previous beta sheets
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 12:01
Yup
Thankfully the galatus now has rules
Owlsbane
@Owlsbane
Jan 25 12:12
Note that the Aegis of the Emperor only negates MW in the Psychic phase, so it isn't effective against Powers of the C'tan, for one thing.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 12:47

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/25/25th-jan-warhammer-40000-new-charactersgw-homepage-post-1/

Well turns out the hivebelly can be quite useful, depending on points cost..

Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 12:54
6 shots, hitting on 2s, each hit explodes
wat
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 12:55
depending on points, an avg. of like 10 hits is.... impressive
5+ save, T3 is not really durable though and pretty limited in range
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 12:56
+3 on his cult ambush though
though ambush may be waaay different in the dex
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:03
those liberator autostubs are heavier than a heavy bolt pistol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:05
guess its more along the lines of "a good shot" just like a vindicare always wounds on 2+
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:07
liberator is Pistol 2, S4, AP -1, D2 // Heavy Bolt Pistol is Pistol 1, S4, AP -1, D1. So the autostub shoots twice as fast, punches as hard, and each shot does twice as much damage as a mass-reactive bolt... how unusual
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 13:07
gotta love that Codex creep
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:08
that... is actually quite codex creepy.
insane.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:11
well, exactly... and because they're Pistol weapons the bolt pistols don't benefit from the Beta Bolters rule
really the autostub should be D1
in my opinion there is no real way to justify "plain" bullets that do 2 damage
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:12
nope, I totally agree.
if a bolter is D1, a bullet NEVER can be D2 (rather D 1/2).
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:13
:+1:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 13:13
plot armour bullets
i've noticed they tend to be pushing a lot of D2 weapons recently
with no real reason why theyre higher damage
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:15
yeah, all it does is ruin the case for Primaris
against a D2 weapon there is no difference between Tactical or Intercessor marine
seems a little silly to me
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 13:23
yep. the only justification i can see is this guy is supposed to be an assassin type, so he needs the extra damage to deal with characters efficiently
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 13:29
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in response to people asking if the new rules were on bscribe yet
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 13:30
is that from Dakka?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 13:31
discord
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:34
well I get better cracking... the manipulus neds to be available yesterday.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 13:42
good luck with that, given we don't have a datasheet until next week! :grinning:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:42
at least we got a few statlines, gear and abilites... :P
and its friday, I'm at work and am catching a cold. Anything but work is welcome right now :P
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:42
hehehehe!! BCB has a reasonable sense of humour after all?!
I know how you feel @Thairne - I woke up in the early hours of the morning with a sniffy nose and a headache... It's not improved
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 25 13:46

hehehehe!! BCB has a reasonable sense of humour after all?!

I'm screenshotting this and getting it framed

Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 13:47
And preemptive bugrep posted
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:54
worst part is - mr Harlequin Slaneesh guy brought nurgles rot with him on wednesday.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:55
sad face
I don't think I can put my finger on where mine came from, but I HATE being ill with a passion
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:57
especially if you get sick on fridays, go to work, and have to lay low on the weekend.
then get up healthy on monday.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:57
yeah, that sucks, hopefully I'll be able to run myself down over the weekend "just bashing through" and then have a genuine reason to stay home on Monday :smile:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 13:58
that's the spirit xD
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 13:58
:+1:
priorities
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:00
I wonder if I can run on a bit of paracetamol...
have a few nice walkies in the cold, wet weather...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:01
Soooooo
Not this year, but next, if everything goes sorta okay
I plan on me and The Girl going to Wacken Open Air
Any of y'all in the area? :)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:02
beer, dirt, overcrowded and metal.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:02
Yes
That's the idea
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:02
still a 12h drive away from me :D
Been once, 2006...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:02
Aaaaaand?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:02
beer, dirt, overcrowded and metal :D
thats about it
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:03
So like ACL Fest here, but heavier
And I'll wager not nearly as hot
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:03
it can be quite temperate that close to the sea, but if the sun burns it burns
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:03
Every time I see something like this:
I want to go more
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:03
I remember the prices for hard stuff being inane, like 30€ for a bottle of vodka.. in 2006
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:04
Eh...I don't drink so that's not an issue for me lol
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:04
shrug it nothing like as far away as America :smile:
which makes it much more likely I could attempt to attend
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:04
well that is about as accurate as it gets.
its a bit less awesome once you ARE stuck between 20k meltalheads and need to ... dunno, breath :P
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:05
Nightwish is on my list of bands to see before I die, as are a lot of bands that have a tendency to be at Wacken
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:05
just be prepared to be there. early. Or else you'll see a few heads and flashing lights ;)
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:05
As symphonic metal is kinda my jam
Yes sir
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:06
but withthe volume they put out you can hear them clear as day 500m back
and if you get any closer - protect your ears
I currently have only one band I want to see - Heilung. I'll have em shove my dying bed up to the stage if they have to.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:07
I like a LOT of bands that don't tour the States often if at all
And when they do they don't come anywhere close
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:07
that does sound pretty loud
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:07
Aaaaaaaaand I've been looking for a good excuse to justify a nice long vacation to Europe
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:07
:+1:
"it's nice"
justified
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:08
Though I will probably want a shirt that says, "I'm Sorry" on it
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:08
"I can pick up enough hobby stuff to save the money for the trip in price difference"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:08
Because I feel like every time someone figures out I'm from the US, I'll feel compelled to say that
Or I'll fall back to my usual stance
"Are you an American/Yank/whatever?"
"I'm a Texan."
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe just sighs.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:10
usually wacken folks are pretty friendly
so I wouldnt expect anyting. SJW usually dont get a foot in in metal :P
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:10
Man...I'll be glad when this country decides to elect a leader that isn't an embarrassment to the rest of the world
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Jan 25 14:10
wel all will be mate, we all will be...
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:10
Right??
Ugh
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe puts the soapbox up, even though it calls to him, Precious
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:12
I mean, Trump only does two things wrong, really:
  1. Everything he says 2. Everything he does
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:12
hahahahah!! I :heart: that explaination
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:15
It's funny...because it's true
It's tragic...because it's true
Aaaaaanyway
I've been listening to Otep's Kult 45 album lately
It's like Rage Against the Machine with the anger turned up past 11 to Seethe
...and a female lead vocalist that's an amazing, amazing wordsmith
He's just a morally corrupt
Demagogue
Who's in lust with his daughter
So he pays porn stars
To dress like her
But beware
You can piss in his mouth
You can piss anywhere but
"Watch my hair"
There. Blockquote is odd lol
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe notices he's standing on the soapbox. Again. How did he get up there...again?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:20
looked at that festival...
flipping goodness, it looks MASSIVE!!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:21
Yes sir
It's like Metal Mecca
I feel as though it's the pilgrimage I am compelled to make
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:23
hehehehe
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:25
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:25
yikes, sounds very dramatic
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:25
Wilhelm Scream
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:25
So, I've been working with our partners since Sept to sort a problem with a client site
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:25
Are they tau?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:26
config changes that take 2 week turnaround, major pain in the ass, now been escalated to our MD
Online with their engineer this afternoon. "Does it matter that I can't reach your site from our server?"
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:26
...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:26
lmao
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:26
.......
....................................
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe hands @Mad-Spy a 12 ga. shotgun. "You know what to do."
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:27
I have a quick policy question. New Custodes Beta rules came out this morning. The old Contemptor-Exemplar Dreadnought is no longer in there. But the Contemptor Galatus is. Do you normally interpret this as that option is no longer available or that you would use the older Beat rules for it?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:28
right... so, the problem is with their server, not the Client site... bonkers, some people....
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:28
if it's the same model, use the new rules. if not... no idea
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:28
Use older beta rules, as the new ones don't introduce a datasheet that replaces the Exemplar
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:28
^
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:28
Unless it's like @GenWilhelm says
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:28
OR DO THEY? I had this with the Hellforged Termite.
Same model, new rules. Old datasheet no longer available.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:29
oh yeah, I rmember those hilarious discussions
but the datasheets are different
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:29
there actually isn't a model for the Exemplar, people were using a Galatus and replacing the arms with standard dread fists
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:29
for the same model
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:29
@Mad-Spy I feel your pain, brother.
At least its sorted?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:29
"Does your Model have a datasheet" is the DC flow.
Which makes it fun.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:29
"yes, it has two"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:30
CONSULT THE FLOWCHART OF FUCKERY
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:30
I think we decided that the datasheet name is what decides it.
A'La D Princes.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:30
the precedent is to use the most recent datasheet, unless your model has wargear from an older one
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:30
@CrusherJoe well hopefully it will be when their parent company gets around to editing their firewall rules.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:30
smoooth
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:30
Oh
Oh dear.
At least its off your plate now?
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe looks hopeful
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:31
It's got escalated high enough that it should get sorted this afternoon.
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:31
ok so the Exemplar would stay and the Galatus would just get added
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:31
That's what I'd interpret it as.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:31
oh, so we can keep both of those, but I had to remove the Hellforged Termite!! OK, then. I see how it is! :grinning:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:32
Exemplar has a datasheet. Galatus has a datasheet. They are two different models.
Correct?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:32
only if they use different models irl
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:32
but exemplar never had a model
it was a kit bashed thing.
and if the differentiation is weapons, land raider variants ... they're the same except weapons.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:33
idk. this is a right mess that FW has given us
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:34
*Same model I mean
Haha, is it anything less than expected?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:34
are the old rules still available?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:34
And we still hope that their list builder will be supported and correct laughs in chaos
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:34
^^ You are so funny
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:35
if the old rules are gone, i would say that looks like a deliberate choice by FW, given these are beta rules
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:35
Why do I think the phrase "Consult the Flowchart of Fuckery" should be said in Dalek voice?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:35
Oh Iain, dunno if you read up 2 novels of text, but we've made it so the SHD in the GST renames and adds points based on IK Knight Lance rule. It can be tweaked to allow Chaos Knights to do the same if you wanted to move back to SHD
Because it should be.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:36
And why can't I find a Dalek text to speech generator?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:36
lol, Joe. that reminds me of Choose Your Own Adventure books, where it regularly asks you "Do you have the [Orb of Fuckery]?"
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:37
I guess it depends on if today's Beta rules are "in addition to" or "replacing" the old Custodes beta rules
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:37
"Does the Wand of Fuckery count? No? Hrm..."
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:37
Does it? Consult the flowchart!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:38
pushes up glasses The wand of fuckery was an index option ACKSHUALLY
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:38
But the new model is an orb, not a wand.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:39
But the one I have from Epic Trader in '87 has a waaaaaand
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:40
where is this flowchart?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:40
@teage-like-league like for like datasheets will be replaced by the latest ones
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:40
The Flowchart of Fuckery.jpg
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:40
I need to get that framed.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:40
The-Flowchart-of-Fuckery.jpg
marvellous
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:41
the problem is Exemplar =/= Galatus but the models might be similar (even if Exemplar never had a "proper" model)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:41
If I ever had a game shop that did 40k
That'd be framed on the wall in the game room.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:41
it isnt in a codex, so the flowchart says to use the index version, which it also doesnt have :smile:
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:42
now now @GenWilhelm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:42
We should add little adendums to the sheet as GW comes up with them.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:42
that's why they're Beta
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:42
and that doesn't answer the questions if future iterations add to or replace the beta rules. In this case "look at the flowchart" isn't helpful
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:42
clap Welcome to the conversation Teage :D
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:43
imo, you should always be using the most recent version of beta rules
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:43
well, the general concsensus is that the newest version of a particular datasheet replaces the old version
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:43
The above mentioned fuckery flowchart is all that GW gives us to interpret their will of what sheets are legal.
Does it matter to them that it is nigh useless when they do rules and shit via the community site?
Fuck no!
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 14:43
if they've omitted stuff in the newer version, it's likely a conscious choice
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:43
IRL, what is the difference between an Exemplar and a Galatus??
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:43
Weapons I assume.
But again, land raiders.
or hell, X-Blade variants.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:44
yeah, but I don't know what either of them have?
if Exemplar weapons = Galatus weapons then shrug who knows
if not, then, keep both - they're different units :smile:
:+1:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:45
The Flowchart of Fuckery.jpg
There. Frame that one.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:45
:+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:45
We need an offshoot to the index box.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:45
perfect
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:45
I think it gets a little more complicated
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:45
"But my model doesn't have an index either" >>> "Fuck off"
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:46
The Achillus dread is in both versions
it used to match stats with the Exemplar
it got a little nerf and now matches the galatus, which seems to indicate all of the Custode Contemptor patterns got a nerf
so if you leave the Exemplar and just add the Galatus, the Exemplar did not get the nerf
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:47
OK, I'm averagely confused because I dno't know the list intimately
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:48
Man what font does GW use for that flowchart?
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:48
comic sans ms
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe looks at @FarseerVeraenthis through slitted eyes
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:48
Uh huh. Sure.
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:49
@FarseerVeraenthis there are basically 3 patterns of Contemptor dread for Custodes(Galatus, Achillus, and Exemplar). 2 have a model (Galatus and Achillus).
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:49
Real men use Comic Sans Italics.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:49
@teage-like-league thanks
that makes the mud slightly more transparent
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:49
The first set of beta rules only gave rules for the Achillus and Exemplar. The second set gives rules for the Achillus and Galatus
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:50
and @CrusherJoe you leave Comic San alone, it never did anyone any harm (runs)
@teage-like-league so the Galatus has a different loadout than the Exemplar??
and is different again from the Achillus
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:51
Comic Sans is there for one reason. To be a part of the "My First Science Fair Project" pack.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:52
:+1:
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 14:53
@FarseerVeraenthis that is correct. All three have a different loadout
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:54
At least it's not THIS font:
30706629_10216241409418131_955270387035681382_n.jpg
...I may have made that after a trip to Hobby Lobby
...where every sign for sale in that store has that piece of shit font used at least once
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:54
Haha
If I want something edgy and "hard" I actually like the Warcraft font.
"Lifecraft"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:56
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I love the font on the bottom "rocker" text
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:56
That font just reminds me of middle school
and learning how to draw a Cool S.
The bottom font is nice though
compact, but still easily readable (if not curved like a jackass)
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:57
I opened a birthday party invite for my little boy using a similar font, It too me ages to figure out it said "XYZ is turning 4"
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:57
What a badass name.
XYZ
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:57
@teage-like-league that makes it easy, 3 different loadouts = 3 different datasheets, which we now have
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:57
"Zzizz" is how I imagine that would be pronounced.
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 14:57
The top font is Iron Horse
The bottom is Ironclad
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 14:58
hehehe yeah, the real name was Lilia I think
but that requires thought to type
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 14:58
@Kohato, it's a bit like Abcde (Absidee)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 14:59
Yea, fuck that mom.
Oh you can't pronounce my daughter's stupid as fuck name that isn't actually a word?
Gonna lodge complaints against you!
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 15:01
....
Man, I'm gonna be so fucking rich
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Jan 25 15:01
Fee
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 15:01
When I prefect my method for stabbing someone in the face over standard TCP/IP
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 15:02
I will pay you good money for that!
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 25 15:02
@Kohato , @CrusherJoe , and @GenWilhelm do you agree?? 3 different loadouts = 3 different datasheets
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 15:04
I do
Since they have 3 bespoke names
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:04
Ayup
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:04
I posted the question on their FB post announcing the beat rules
*beta
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:04
the exemplar is just the achillus without the spear and a regular contemptor gun arm
I'm leaving it in until ambiguity cleared up
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:04
I mean, we'll get a FAQ in 3 weeks saying that the new one is indeed the old one, and you should pay 10 points per storm shield
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:05
also I'm awake so custodes are getting put in now
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 15:05
does @alphalas know?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:06
no idea, but it's my cat
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 15:06
He does.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 15:06
:+1:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 25 15:06
I heard the orgasmic shout all the way from PA
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:06
@WindstormSCR out of curiosity, how do you handle the new Custodian Guard datasheet?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:06
Well, cold air carries sounds further.
I think.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 15:06
just saw him say he was going to do it earlier, and he's assigned on #4505
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:07
he said until monday
so I'm doing it in an hour and he can have fun
@teage-like-league its a separate datasheet because of the subtext
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:07
Because of the implication
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:08
just like "in terminator armor" is a subtext
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:08
she won't say no
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 15:08
what are you saying, Earl; are these datasheets in danger?
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:08
@WindstormSCR cool, thanks for the explination
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:08
No, no, no, who's saying that?
I'm just saying the datasheets won't want to say no
You know, because of the implication
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:09
@teage-like-league if you want to help do this faster, could you do a fine-tooth comb through the existing sheets that got reprinted looking for changes?
achillus, coronus, etc
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:10
sure thing. The Achillus definately got changed
lost two wounds, lost a leadership, lost some range on his dreadspear shooting, lost an AP on his dread spear
Impaling charge rule changed
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:12
Yay, I found a variation of Dr.Toboggan that wasn't taken.
Fuck now I have to update the author name on Crons/IK
Bah, not worth it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 25 15:14
lmao
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:15
@WindstormSCR Coronus gained 2 Strength, Twin Arachnus Laz- Blaze profiles changed too. Gravitic Backwash rules changed drastically, but almost all the special rules got wording changes
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 15:15
@Kohato really?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:15
I wish I could change reddit names too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:15
@alphalas I've already got 3 of the new units in, you'll be able to listbuild by lunchtime
interestingly, they removed the "only one of each datasheet" limitation
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 25 15:19
Noice!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:19
Lunchtime is a generous guess
Appspot has to take it's midmorning nap
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:27
well
alphalas can do it because he pulls using the repo
everyone else will have to wait for appspot to wake up
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:32
And down to 2 Issues
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:41
And profile picture changed to something more fitting.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:47
Can anyone say "Overloaded elite slot"m 3 times fast?
because that's definitely custodes now
even the new CG option is elites
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 25 15:48
"We Like Vanguards for our CP!"
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:48
I mean it kinda fits
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:48
1 CP at a time lol
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:49
problem is I just finished a 4k of Custodes to take to Adepticon
*list
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:49
well
at least you'll have plenty of options
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:49
lol very true
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:49
@teage-like-league you know how to pull from the repo using git desktop?
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:50
with all the gold, they are quick to paint up too
@WindstormSCR I do, thanks
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 25 15:50
saves on the decision making early in the morning too ... "Do I want Elites, other Elites ... or maybe step it up and take Elites!"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:50
k, you can do a QA check once this gets pushed if you like, I like to think I'm torough, but I do make mistakes
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 15:50
sure thing
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 25 15:51
it's why me and DrToboggan play Necrons .... "Tesla or Gauss ..... aaaaaand list done!"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:58
First Half is up
done through Agamatus custodians
jump packers next then on to the rest
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 15:59
Haha yep. And the answer is usually Tesla.
Because it's fun
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 15:59
no lie, this stuff is making me rethink golden boys for a next army
I was going to do a GSC with less overt genestealer tones as an inquisitorial force
or as chaos-worshipping insurrectionists, I hadn't decided
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:13
sadly I have a suspicion the JP custodes might be overpriced
but we'll see
they're using effectively starcannons, which for my eldar have always been lackluster
and 3+ save on 62ppm gonna hurt
66 ppm with pistol/buckler
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 16:22
@WindstormSCR Under Aquillon Custodian, Solarite Power Talon is coming up as a unit instead of a weapon in the View Selection
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:22
odd
also the achillus points didn't take, already fixed that
Update pushed
do a pull and see if its fixed for you
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:33
the caladius got moved to HS
custodes brigades just became viable
if hilariously expensive
2538 points for minimum custodes brigade now
caladius is mean now
POTMS and that arachnus heavy blaze is a nasty peice of anti-tank
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 16:36
Achillus Dreadspear cost did update for me
hell of a point reduction on that thing
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:37
true, but it isn't what it was either
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 16:38
true
Power Talon looks fixed now too
All these bolters, with Custards go the new beta bolter rules
*wish
@WindstormSCR Galatus Warblade (shooting) weapon abilities is incorrect.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:45
Fixed
the telemon joined the rest of us in the realm of sanity finally
262 for double fist telemon, 272 for double aracnus guns
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 16:56
@WindstormSCR Venatari Custodians are missing Aegis of the Emperor rules in View Selection
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 16:56
so they are
fixed
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:02
I think I made it through everything you have pushed so far. I am at the Caladius in the Beta Rules
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:02
just finishing the orion now
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 17:12
#4505 lol
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:15
@teage-like-league pushed another update
if it checks out I'll mark it as officially done and release
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:16
cool, will check it out
I am still showing the Caladius as Fast Attack
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:17
try reloading the roster
just create a new one
sometimes things get odd like that if you update on an open roster
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:18
ah that did it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:20
Coronus is now seriously worth using to protect wardens/CG squads/Terminators
stick trajann, vexilus, and a 4-warden group in one with axes for max fun
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:23
@WindstormSCR Caladius no longer has Gravitic Cascade rule
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:23
right, forgot to rename it to explodes
fixed the coronus as well
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:24
Also need to change it from a "5 or 6" to on a 6
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:26
yep
going to go grab a quick lunch
be back in~20
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:30
@WindstormSCR Telemon - Illiastus Accelerator Culverin is now Heavy 4 instead of Heavy 6. Atomantic Cascade also need turned back to the normal Explode.
@WindstormSCR Sagittarum Custodian Adrastus Bolt Caliver (Desintigration Beam) Damage should be D3 not 3
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:47
Fixed
and pushed
anything else popping out?
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:48
almost done
I don't think the Telemon Caestus weapon points are right
oops nevermind
I am just not used to reading it that way
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:50
its a quirky thing because the modifier only happens when 2 are selected
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:51
yeah took me a minute lol
I think it looks pretty good
I hope I didn't miss anything
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:51
same here
orion I double-checked myself
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 17:52
I love that ship
I am so excited to see rules for it
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:52
its mean
with that double heavy blaze and potms
knight-killing mean
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 17:53
At least it's all FW stuff, so I won't see it often vs my knights
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 17:54
@Mad-Spy want me to squash that easy chaos big?
teage-like-league
@teage-like-league
Jan 25 18:00
my 4k list became a 3713pt list. Room for a 2nd Telemon!
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 18:07
Mmm, Sunsmiting.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 18:21
now I have a few things to go do around the house, but that should have solved the whiners
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 18:26
@amis92 You closed our kudos!
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 25 18:46
@WindstormSCR, if you're on a roll, go ahead
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 25 18:46
you didn't reply, so I left it for you, release is out
FW stirring the custard
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Jan 25 23:18
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Finally decided that I should probably base some models after 4 years ...
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 25 23:35
Huh purple goes well on the deceiver