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31st
Jan 2019
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 00:02
or just make the sergeant have a different "pattern" or "ammo" a la telion
so you get 1 good expensive sniper and 4 shitty ones
kind of like admech
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 00:56
I don't know what do to with #4535
I sounds like a lot of user error
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 04:08
It is.
Or app error. Either way. Not data.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 05:11
Artel W really does do a fantastic job of character minis
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 05:11
They really do. Fantastic sculpts.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 05:12
just got my Distaff mini, no pics since phone is dead, but its as good as the website would have you believe
ordering the savant and senior law officer to round out my inquisitorial retinue and will be using the FW solomon lok for the inquisitor (such a good sculpt )
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 05:14
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I shouldn't be as excited as I am about these paints finally arriving from the hobby store in Hong Kong
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 05:14
decided I’ll make some Scions out of Van Saar and field the “Inquisitorial 21” with my deathwatch
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 05:15
Nice
I'm going to field the Mechanicum 17 myself
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 05:16
Solomon lok, 3x acolytes, primaris psyker, t. prime, 3x scions and a chimera
depending on gear/relics they add some useful support to the DW, with 2 squads dropping in and 1 riding with the inquisition
Binary 17 were much better before stygies got gimped to hell
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 05:22
Eh...for what I intend to use it for, the -1 to hit is good enough
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 12:13
#4535 could be trying to open an old roster with new rules...??
Although, I think you get an error message when you try to do that don't you??
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 13:02
Yep
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:15
Hey, the GSC has that stupid DE counter-strat too :(
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:18
this is my surprised face: :unamused:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:19
O.o one of the chapter tactics .. static +1 S to all models
+2 Advance Rolls
Details Brood Brothers as well.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:20
cant view at work >_>
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:20
It's ugly
"Cult X" units are in the GSC codex
and get the chap tactics
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:21
like russes and sentiels
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:21
But you can draw things from the IG codex and put them in a "Brood Brothers" detachment
Which do not get cult tactics
but they gain a bonus to their Leadership as well as the Unquestioning Loyalty ability
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:22
so, same as before. is the list of things they can draw restricted?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:22
Doesn't say
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:22
oh, UL on BB is new
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:22
Not quite. IG stuff has to be in a unique detachment
Wasn't it part of the normal ones before?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:22
yeah, that's how its always worked
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:22
Ohh then yea, the same
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:22
since they dont share a faction keyword
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:22
also - misspoke: Infantry only
get the UL
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:23
makes sense
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 14:23
so fear not, converted IG stuff will still work
just the Cult X stuff gets tactics.
so it's in the GSC book
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 14:23
sacrifices baneblade to save 1 wound on an iconward
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 14:58
Oh boy
GSC Vect for 3CP
CrusherJoe @CrusherJoe inflates his liferaft in anticipation of the flood of porn elf tears
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 15:00
I really do like how they have it set up, though -- you must have CotFAE models on the table to use it
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:02
yeah, they learned from the vect fuckup
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 15:03
Well...obviously they didn't, as it's back again
Personally I think Vect or the Four Armed Hug have no place in the game
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:03
i guess i mean they learned how to correctly fuckup
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 15:04
Or at least gave you a way to murder your way out of it
...and I can murder my way out of something, you betcha
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:05
I was just about to post the link, but you got there a long way first @drtobogganMD
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 15:05
lulz
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:07
so, it looks like some Brood Brothers are IN the GSC Codex: ""The most common of them form a direct part of the Genestealer Cults army, complete with their own datasheets – Brood Brothers Infantry and Heavy Weapons Squads, Cult Sentinels and Armoured Sentinels, Cult Chimeras and the Cult Leman Russ.""
possibly you could take these within GSC Detachments??
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:08
yeah, by the looks inf squads and HWS can go directly into GSC detachments
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:08
and then if you want something different: "Brood Brothers units can also be drawn directly from the Astra Militarum faction, representing military assets that have been subverted by the cult. They form their own Brood Brothers Detachment, one of which can even be included in a matched play army for every Genestealer Cults Detachment."
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:08
dunno if they get the sect bonuses, or the BB ones
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:09
Instead of the Cult Creed shared by their Genestealer Cult brethren, Infantry units in Brood Brothers Detachments gain a bonus to their Leadership as well as the Unquestioning Loyalty ability
so, I THINK if you use the BB datasheets in the GSC Codex, they get Sect bonuses
if you use a BB Detachement to take "anything" from the AM codex, only infantry get bonus Ld and UL ability
that should be fun to figure out in BS...
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:11
we already have that in bscribe :D
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:11
righto
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 15:13
the IG catalogues have Brood Brothers as a regimental doctrine
anything in the codex can go in the GSC catalogue
but yeah, sounds like inf and HWSs get sect bonuses in a GSC detachment
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 15:17
ah, yes, I hadn't considered the current implementation properly
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 17:21
Speaking of who is doing GSC?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 17:21
:wave:
if it has more than two arms, it's mine
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Jan 31 17:22
I just slid into your DM
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 21:26
Hmm, #4542 & #4541 both are same as #4535 from a bit earlier. It's three now. There might be something wrong somewhere.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 21:27
Not with our data at least.
I guessed it was the GST change somehow, but I updated from a previous build on android when I saw the issue and had no problems.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 21:27
could it be that he needs to update Battlescribe??
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 21:28
And it doesn't help that nobody can bother to actually make an account to discuss the issues
Ease of reporting aside, simply saying "It doesn't work" means you're about as useless as tits on a bull
#4541 is closer to a real report.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 31 21:32
TBH, the whole issue reporting via appspot is terrible. As a minimum we need to know which data file version they're using, not necessarily the app version. Not having any contact details, or any way to send an update to the reporter makes it practically useless.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 21:32
Not terrible, rather useful in most cases
rather unuseful in cases where the user doesn't know how to actually report a bug.
can't have contact data for various EU reasons.
Ideally the report a bug feature would give them 2 options: Anonymously, or a link to the repo on github
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 31 21:36
I don't think it's necessarily "EU reasons". I suspect it's more the fact that putting in directly in the issue would mean that it's effectively made public.
which is pretty much a no-no anywhere
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 21:37
But either way, unless one of us can replicate the issue, we have no way to test our various builds that have gone out
So until someone makes an actual account or comes forward to discuss it, nothing to do but close the issues.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 21:49
best thing we can do is reply that it is likely app related and to update that it is not reproducing on our end
maybe leave one of them open so if people look they know what steps to take and that we already know about it
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 31 21:51
HAHAHA. You think ppl look at the issue list if they're reporting via appspot :grinning:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 21:53
I know the eldar guys do after my posts in the subreddit there, or some of them DM me first with drukhari stuff before reporting to see if its an already fixed thing
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Jan 31 21:53
you have trained them well
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 21:54
anyway, I did the thing, maybe it'll save a few reports, or at least give us a duplicate to assign
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 22:08
I'd say revert the recent release
but who knows if that'll help
because I can't replicate on the current release
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 22:17
lets see how many more we get
anyone getting reports elsewhere?
@DrTobogganMD its an app/android issue, looks like reverting won't fix
jonskichov will have to address it, looks like its only affecting things that auto-updated to a recent android release when viewing HTML
from what I can figure out via reddit/other places
Apparently happening with kill team and other games that didn't release recently too
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 22:26
Lol
He fixed an annoying bug and broke the whole app
Hopefully he responds quick then
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 22:28
Where did you/we ping him?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 22:33
I haven't yet
I haven't gotten the update yet either though
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 22:36
What's the update? Am I correct in assuming it's the Android system update? Because BS in Play Store says "last update 2018.07.11".
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 22:40
its an android system thing that BS needs an update to handle, yes
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 22:48
Retweet pls https://twitter.com/amis_92/status/1091105839560183810 (tagged Jon for attention)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 23:00
The thing is the app hasn't been updated
So the Android update itself may be a cause
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 23:02
that's what I've been saying
android did an update to its HTML viewers to patch a few security flaws
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 23:02
Probably that's it, but Jon should keep an eye on it, and maybe there's something that can be done in the app itself to fix it.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Jan 31 23:03
as a result, BS no longer is playing nice with the HTML viewers on android
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 23:03
Yeah, maybe the HTML view did use some unsafe features etc.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Jan 31 23:09
That's poopie
maybe he'll fix the viewer issue at the same time :p
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 23:25
that's the Factorio demo campaign completed then...
and it's late and now bedtime
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Jan 31 23:26
Good, good! We have another cult member then! 🛠
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Jan 31 23:26
I dont think I have time in my life for that
also, I'm terribly slow at those kind of games, and I get addicted to them super fast too
which ends up with MASSES of time being spent achieving very little
but the demo was good fun :smile:
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 23:31
the factory grows...
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 31 23:38
@DrTobogganMD can confirm 6cp detachment for knigits is MIA on iOS
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 23:39
if it's not a dumb question, are you definitely on the right version?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Jan 31 23:54
Nevermind he set me right on FB
Gitter is shit on mobile so I revert to discord or FBM for discussing stuff with screenshots lol
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Jan 31 23:57
:ok_hand: