These are chat archives for BSData/wh40k

28th
Feb 2019
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 28 2019 00:01 UTC
For example, right now I cannot see what was the content that triggered such an action from you, and I can't really take it into account in future escalations. I just don't know what happened.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 00:03 UTC
I can provide screenshots of The emails
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 28 2019 00:04 UTC
:) Thanks, but that's not really my point - the point is to just avoid the "Delete" action if possible
In terms of actual need of ban or escalation I actually do trust you all :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 00:07 UTC
Fair fair
Was just saying I can provide context to this one
That last comment is the ...Wut?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:11 UTC
@amis92 will do
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 00:15 UTC
sorry to change the subject, but are these in every catalogue?
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or rather, linked in the gst?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:17 UTC
GST I would assume, since they're UNALIGNED
like fortifications
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 00:17 UTC
would it not be a better idea to put them in their own cat?
since they have to be in their own detachment
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:19 UTC
Do they? I've not looked at that
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 00:20 UTC
well yeah, they dont shared a faction with anyone, so they cant join their detachments
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:22 UTC
I thought unaligned had a caveat that made it exempt from that
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 28 2019 00:22 UTC
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 00:23 UTC
only for the army faction, not for detachments
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:24 UTC
Well unfortunately for him, it's unhelpful, comes across as arrogant, and rude, and he doesn't fucking listen to logic or reason when we explain why he's wrong
ergo, he can fuck off and I'm not going to hold a pity party
flakpanda
@flakpanda
Feb 28 2019 00:24 UTC
Is the same@guy from the reddit post?
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 28 2019 00:26 UTC
@amis92 So ... cross referencing issues that are similar type (potentially technically) so that they don’t get repeated or can be referred to as a solution?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 28 2019 00:27 UTC
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ quite honestly
OftKilted
@OftKilted
Feb 28 2019 00:29 UTC
It sounds like a request to create a fork of some kind to document solutions and answers?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 00:29 UTC
Step 1: learn to make coherent sentences so we can fucking understand you
I don't mind well meaning people, I mind well meaning people who don't listen, don't want to listen, and can't make themselves understood
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 01:33 UTC
He STILL does not make clear what he wants.
Regardless of what he wants he needs to not start referencing old issues that have nothing to do with current issues.
I don't want or care for his story or his disabilities, I want to know what the fuck he wants.
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 28 2019 03:34 UTC
Is it OK if I continue not doing anything?? I'd love to help with this dude, but you guys seem to have it covered and heaven knows I also don't entirely understand what's going on :smile:
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 03:41 UTC
You're fone
*fine
there have been maybe 3 eldar bugs in the past month
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 03:44 UTC
Yea, craftworlds has been good for the most part
It's Astartes that is so interdependent on each other that some things get missed when updating other things - hence bugs for them
Simon Porter
@FarseerVeraenthis
Feb 28 2019 03:45 UTC
Perfect :+1:
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 03:47 UTC
So here's a conundrum
The Knight Valliant kit I got from china came with 2 Left-Side lower arm bits for the flamer :(
It'll be interesting carving those to fit each other lol
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 08:07 UTC
usually, depending on the recaster, the guys are actually quite nice when you ask them for the correct part
they might just send an entirely new kit and not go through the hassle of sending single parts...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 08:12 UTC

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-mysteries-of-super-glue-some.html

an actual helpful article? I didnt new superglue has that short of a lifespan....

Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 11:51 UTC
Looking at #4663. The rules for Battle Honours state the the unit gets the honours. The exemption for Vehicle Squadrons doesn't appear to apply because you can't split up the unit, so I think we've implemented it incorrectly?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 11:55 UTC
Yeah I got these like back in August. So well past what I'd say is warrantee period lol
My fault
Iain is the battle honors on the unit or model
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 12:01 UTC
for units that split up after being set up, it applies separately to each of those units
otherwise it applies to the unit as a whole
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 12:03 UTC
It's currently set on the model, but I think it should be on the unit in this case, because you can't split up a unit of Tetras
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 12:04 UTC
yeah, in that case it should be a single one for the whole unit
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 12:58 UTC
@Mad-Spy Go ahead and push that commit for wolves
I was fixing it yesterday and Missed that part it seems
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 12:58 UTC
nw
done
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:00 UTC
Sweet.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:11 UTC
And released. Fixing that wolf one warranted a quick release I think. Relics were still broken :p
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:12 UTC
Never go against a Fenrisian when death is on the line.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:13 UTC
Ooo that's a good one for the next release
We have?
Though it wouldn't be hard. GST No Force Org, No Max limit, "Reinforcement Points" costs 1 pt each.
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:20 UTC
Yeah, I thought that when I saw @WindstormSCR's response as well :)
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 13:21 UTC
I still think it’s more effort then it’s worth tbh
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:22 UTC
it's basically no effort though?
Amadeusz Sadowski
@amis92
Feb 28 2019 13:23 UTC
Let's do that. :) Who volunteers?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:23 UTC
I have editor open still, i'll pop it out real quick
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:24 UTC
while we're editing the GST, can we move the ambull and friends to somewhere else?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:24 UTC
Sure, where would you like them?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:24 UTC
probably their own cat
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:25 UTC
*and friends?
I only see Ambull
on and Bonewyrm
just those two?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:25 UTC
yeah
should we have an unaligned cat for such units?
throw spindle drones in there as well
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:26 UTC
are we going to move all the Fortifications there as well?
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:27 UTC
i think that would only cause confusion tbh
and i dont see a need to, since fortifications can naturally soup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:28 UTC
Hmm ok, so 1500 selections of a 1pt entry
BS might've maybe had a stroke when I tried it.
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:28 UTC
lmao
i did wonder about that
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:28 UTC
I haev another way
lol
Just thought it was funny
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:29 UTC
Yeah, there were at least 2 conversations about how to do reinforcements, either as a single thing, or as a “reinforcements” detachment in the GST, or a mix of both
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:30 UTC
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That's the cleanest way to not make BS have an anurism if you want more than 100 points set aside
though the x## is redundant it seems
There
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And hidden if open/narrative is selected
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:34 UTC
nice
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:35 UTC
As for ambul and friends does anyone have the rules handy for adding them into a force?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:35 UTC
@DrTobogganMD could you do a force entry similar to unbound/aux support Labeled “reinforcements”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:35 UTC
like what are the actual stipulations
And limit it to there?
I can do that
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:36 UTC
that way it won’t throw errors for battle forged armies like unbound does
helpful for daemons, resurrecting units, etc
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:37 UTC
@DrTobogganMD, they're just Unaligned, so they follow the rules for Unaligned units in the BRB
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:37 UTC
where similar units might cost different amounts and allows people to create a reference
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:38 UTC
So proper implementation of them would be - only visible in a list that has mixed/no tactics selected?
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:39 UTC
or in an Aux Support
which is why I just stuck them in for everybody.
and left the validation of the list to the user
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:39 UTC
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Separate detachment causes issues
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:40 UTC
@DrTobogganMD thats a CWE bug you jst found :p
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:40 UTC
Or is it a bug for every cat that uses tactics?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:41 UTC
most tactics don’t require the selector
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:41 UTC
nope, just cwe
silly elves.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:41 UTC
and easily user solved by setting it to none
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:42 UTC
the fact that it doesn't auto-add the Craftworlds Attribute SSE to the second detachment is a BS bug, isn't it?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:43 UTC
It shouldn't add it because I didn't use No Force Org
for that reason actually
I made a unique category
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:43 UTC
I see.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:43 UTC
Tbh I’ve sent in an email to GW asking if they can review an exception for unaligned units not breaking tactics to make them easier to use
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:44 UTC
every unit in a detachment has to share a faction keyword. ambulls dont share any keywords with anyone, so they should be in their own cat
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:44 UTC
for the april FAQ
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:44 UTC
Oh so they can't actually be in a mixed detachment
aux only
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:45 UTC
stuffing all the unalinged stuff in a separate detachment labeled “monsters and gribblies” wouldn’t be a bad idea
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:45 UTC
yeah, with no HQs, they can currently only be used in aux support
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:45 UTC
yes they can. p214 of the BRB makes an exception for Unaligned units
All of the units in a matched play army, with the
exception of those that are UNALIGNED, must have at
least one Faction keyword in common (e.g. IMPERIUM
or CHAOS), even though they may be in different
Detachments.
so they can be in any army, but they'll break mono-Faction detachments.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:46 UTC
for battle forged, but armies with tactics specify the whole detachment must be “faction”
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:46 UTC
exactly, they will break the tactics
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 13:46 UTC
they can be in any army. but detachment restrictions still apply
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:46 UTC
@Mad-Spy the cat approach can always be nested?
I propose “Unaligned - monsters and gribblies” for the cat title :P
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 13:47 UTC
Why? Just call it Unaligned.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:48 UTC
Wtf Aeldari
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:48 UTC
because it amuses me, more than anything
?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:48 UTC
Craftworld Attribute has the same force requirements necrons does, but necrons doesn't force the dynasty choice in reinforcements
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:48 UTC
huh, I’ll take a look later
make a bugrep for me?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:49 UTC
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(y) Alright
Otherwise reinforcements seems to work fine for the most part
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:50 UTC
awesome, should help the filthy chaos and tyranid players
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 13:50 UTC
yeah I had the same idea... and noticed the aneurism BS gets when the Assassin one showed up. So no forgetti that Reinforcements may cost CP also
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:51 UTC
thats easy to add I suppose, just add CP to that selection group?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:51 UTC
They can? That's easy - I'll make a CP one.
yep
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:52 UTC
yeah, assassin reinforcements cost a CP + 85pts
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 13:52 UTC
I even advocated for a stratagem: get ass or something that has these costs
because that one will be used quite often I'd wager, the same as a relic stratagem
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:53 UTC
problem is any imperial force can use it, and there is no way to hide the entry based on chaos vs imperial etc
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 13:53 UTC
put in gst, only link in imperial cats?
(assuming the cypher shenanigan gets FAQed)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:54 UTC
possible, or only unhide if force contains something with the “Imperium” category
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 13:54 UTC
yup, though I'd rise an eyebrow why tyranids would want to link the stratagem in the first place :D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:55 UTC
well, if its root linked in GST as hidden by default, with a reveal condition of “includes Imperium in force”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:56 UTC
There
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WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:56 UTC
I’ll do the assassin strat when I fix elves later
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 13:58 UTC
Ooo #4666 for the heretical elves issue.
demonic.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 13:59 UTC
fitting considering the thing that found the bug is mostly used for daemons
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 14:00 UTC
haha
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 14:58 UTC
in German we call such things "gefährliches Halbwissen" aka dangerous half-knowledge.
When you assume you know stuff but you actually DONT and keep acting on your wrong assumptions you can cause quite a bit of trouble
Holy shit that's...beautiful
And a very real thing. English has no concept of such a thing, and boy does it need it
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:02 UTC
see? This man gets it :D
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 15:21 UTC
I’m already making a poster for the engineering lab using that
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:23 UTC
There are some people whom I would like to tattoo that on their foreheads
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 15:23 UTC
@Thairne what would the grammatically correct form of the phrase “Warning! Don’t let (dangerous half-knowledge) get you hurt or worse!” be
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:24 UTC
I know it's kind of ridiculous, but do any of you remember...I think it was Rumsfield...and his discussion about "unknowns"?
There are things we know -- the knowns
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 15:24 UTC
Nope, but now you have me curious
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:24 UTC
There are the we know we don't know, the "known unknowns"
And then there the things we don't know we don't know, the "unknown unknowns"
It sounds like doublespeak gibberish but when you break it down, it really does make sense
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Feb 28 2019 15:26 UTC
I learned about that from boondocks, great show
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:26 UTC
My love for The Boondocks is absolute
It's some of the most biting social commentary I've ever had the pleasure of seeing
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 15:27 UTC
I think my favorite is the N* moment section
and the subtitle (anyone can have one, but only black people seem to have a word for it)
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:28 UTC

Hm...

In German that sentence would be different. More like
"Vorsicht!! Gefährliches Halbwissen!" if it's a warning label just like "Attention! High Voltage!"
or you could say
"Vorsicht vor gefährlichem Halbwissen" which would be "Beware of dangerous half knowledge!"
or possibly closest to your wording in intent
"Lass gefährliches Halbwissen nicht die Oberhand gewinnen!" - "Dont let dangerous half knowledge get the upper hand!"

Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:29 UTC
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Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:30 UTC
or, a bit more... historical
"Wehret dem gefährlichen Halbwissen!" which is a play on "Wehret den Anfängen"
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:31 UTC
I don't even know enough German to be dangerous, but I think as a language it is superbly descriptive and direct. Almost like a language built by engineers.
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 15:32 UTC
And we wonder why for decades they had some of the best engineering... :thinking:
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:32 UTC
the simply ability to chain words is brilliant for expressing things... A door of a house? HAUSTÜR (housedoor)
you can just make words up as you go and everyone understands your meaning
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:34 UTC
decades they had some of the best engineering... :thinking:
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:34 UTC
I mean the language almost forces you to think a certain methodical way
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:34 UTC
More accurate is overengineering
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:35 UTC
hey man there's nothing wrong with over-engineering
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:35 UTC
everyone that drove shermans has no right critizing tigers :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:35 UTC
Tell that to the Maus
Or the Tiger
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:35 UTC
There are good reasons why I love BMWs
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:35 UTC
Maus is.. special. Insane hitler project. Just like T-1000 or even T-1500.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:36 UTC
OR!
EVEN BETTER!
The g-11
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:36 UTC
H-44?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:36 UTC
That is LITERALLY
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:36 UTC
G-11? never heard of that one
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:36 UTC
Germans going
Hmm how can we over engineer this gun as much as absolutely possible?
HK G-11
Caseless gun
CLOCKWORK gun
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:37 UTC
you know you'd love to be armed with that thing tho :P
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:37 UTC
Yes.
Yes he would.
As would I.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:37 UTC
just like youd feel better driving a tiger and not a t-34 :P
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:37 UTC
because.. ya know... living is a thing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:38 UTC
There’s a difference between over engineered into unreliability and under engineered unreliability
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:39 UTC
"That's a nice Sherman tank you have over there. Go ahead and shoot me with it. I'll wait."
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:39 UTC
you dont overengineer into unreliability
you overengineer into not being feasible anymore
as good as a tank the tiger was, you couldnt keep up with the numbers
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:40 UTC
The driveline was over-engineered into unreliability tough. The transmission was so intricate it couldn’t stand up to service at all
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:41 UTC
and repairs were taking ages, yes
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:41 UTC
That is a failure of the hubris of over engineering
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:41 UTC
i'd still prefer a tiger to a sherman tho :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:41 UTC
I’d prefer 4 Sherman’s to one tiger
Which was about the ratio of cost
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:42 UTC
if you dont act like in Fury... a tiger in ambush could knock 4 shermans down
in material, not in lives.
but yes, that's the reason Germany lost
lots of shitty tanks > a few good tanks
look up the H-44 though. Double the weight and about 40% longerthan Yamato.
That would've been a ship to behold xD
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:45 UTC
So same general concept as the super Iowa’s that were scrapped before their keels were laid down?
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:45 UTC
yup
hitler madness all over again.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:46 UTC
The problem with super ships is canals
There are 2
And both are(were) marrow
Narrow*
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:46 UTC
in that case, even the German bay wouldnt be large enough to maneuver
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:47 UTC
The Iowas were about the biggest a ship could be to navigate the Panama Canal
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:47 UTC
but damn, 8 x 50.8cm would've made some holes :D
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:52 UTC
I doubt any German warship would cross the panama canal though anytime soon :DP
Joe Beddoe
@CrusherJoe
Feb 28 2019 15:55 UTC
...and then anti-ship missiles came along and made battleships obsolete
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:56 UTC
ever watched Battleship the movie? Ridiculously bad, but there is a certain charme to 40.6cm guns that a missile launch just doesnt have :D
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 15:56 UTC
Battleship the movie .... Do NOT make me angrier than I already am !!
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 15:57 UTC
broadsiding them alien fuckers WAS cool though.
after the 5 80 year olds made the museum ship work *cough
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 15:58 UTC
"OH, wait I know ... let's just take out this old decommissioned ship and expect it to 'just work' with a crew of 6 and all this ammunition laying around ... oh and the barrels are atill totally clean and .. and ..." aaaaaaghhhhh
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:59 UTC
*16” guns
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 15:59 UTC
those old timers were Orks ... it's the only way the pure power of belief made that work !
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 15:59 UTC
It’s MURICAN
I’ve actually spent several days on the BB-62
Such a glorious ship
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 16:00 UTC
I propose a new system... MM (marine movement). 16" = 2 2/3 MM
about as logical :D
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:00 UTC
Those shells come up to a grown man’s chest
A new model pic!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:01 UTC
They’re fucking massive shells
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:01 UTC
bad enough with 109mm howies when I was in the army ... "The CO wants a fully polished shell case for his umbrella stand ... go make it happen!"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:02 UTC
And those sacks of powder behind them...
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 16:02 UTC
350mm even. I have a pic of me next to one and it's near shoulders.. and I'm not small with 190cm
that thing actually looks nice!
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:04 UTC
I was an armourer ... I got within spitting distance of the mini gun on the apache helicopter ... made me want to transfer to the Navy just to get more access to that toy
Mmmmmm
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:04 UTC
THAT ... is sufficient Dakka !!
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:05 UTC
Minigun? Apache? Wut?
Apaches have chain guns under the nose
(Father was Army Av; grew up around kiowas/Apaches/Blackhawks)
The D model Kiowa
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:06 UTC
I always like referring to the Gau Avenger.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:06 UTC
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:06 UTC
When discussing "Enough Dakka"
A gun so large a plane was built around it.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:06 UTC
That was a bird
Tiny, agile, and packed a mean punch
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:07 UTC
is that the warthog ?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:07 UTC
No, Gau-8 Avenger
Gigantic fucking chaingun
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:08 UTC
The Gau-8 is the warthog’s cannon yes
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:08 UTC
.jfif
Yea, I guess it is on teh warthog
I love that meme for it though
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:09 UTC
I personally love the Phalanx
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:09 UTC
that's what I thought ... BRRRRRRRRT ! ... "Whadday mean we're out of ammo again!?"
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:09 UTC
“R2D2 was an angry spiteful soul”
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:11 UTC
Effective firing range Classified
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:11 UTC
Yup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:11 UTC
You know you have a good gun with specs like that
lol
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:11 UTC
Can’t let people know how far out r2d2 can shoot down their missiles
I still love the storm refit of the Iowa’s
Added 4 patriot boxes and Phalanx
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:12 UTC
what is the r2d2 anyway
the radar?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:13 UTC
Yup
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:14 UTC
The CIWS does not recognize IFF
R2D2 don't give a shit
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:15 UTC
Nope
If R2D2 sees you, you’re fucked lol
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:16 UTC
having played Arma3 as a helo pilot when AA radar sites pop ... I know that fear
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:16 UTC
Lol regarding the storm refit on Iowa’s:
At one point, the NATO Sea Sparrow was to be installed on the reactivated battleships; however, it was determined that the system could not withstand the overpressure effects from firing the main battery.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:17 UTC
heh
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:17 UTC
hahaha
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:18 UTC
There’s actually a small structure on the aft deck of the New Jersey; it is one of the main access ladders to belowdecks from the deck
It’s made out of 2” steel
There is literally a dent in it
From the overpressure of the rear turret firing nearly fully depressed
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:20 UTC
how the hell does it not blows itself over sideways
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:21 UTC
I imagine the actual tippage(?) isn't worse than rather rough seas.
And it's momentary instead of sustained.
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:23 UTC
well, that's enough Mil-Pron for today .. I have to prepare for the arrival of the Death Guard
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:23 UTC
god damn that Mark 7 gun. 1/4 ton of powder, and can hit something 20 miles away.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:23 UTC
Mmmmmhmmm
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:23 UTC
in the 40s.
ballistics is a sonuvabitch
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:24 UTC
I miss playing with guns
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:24 UTC
Was used in Vietnam and Storm as arty fire support
Imagine
You’re a grunt
In Iraq
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:24 UTC
And you call for arty
And instead of hearing an army gunner talk back to you
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:25 UTC
@WindstormSCR like that !
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 16:25 UTC
some 3D printing, plumbing parts, and old oats cans
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 16:25 UTC
You hear a NAVAL gunner talk back to you
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 16:25 UTC
using the old school terrain methods with a dash of new tech
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:26 UTC
haha. "Yea, I'm just 40km out, passing by. I'll chuck some shells your way."
old school
I own both books
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:26 UTC
"Dear Grid Reference ...!"
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 16:26 UTC
they're a fucking gold mine of ideas
Price Van-Saint
@sk_Father_Price_twitter
Feb 28 2019 16:26 UTC
Make Brian the Sewer Vent!!
right .. I'm out - O7 chaps
See that grey box just forward of the helipad, aft of the aft turret?
That’s the structure I’m talking about
With a fucking dent in it
I gotta see if I still have the pictures I took from when I encamped on the 62
Also just checked my emails
Ugh
Why does caw have to comment on everything?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 16:32 UTC
lmao
Welcome to the party that is caw
CloverFox
@CloverFox
Feb 28 2019 16:53 UTC
I think he's trying to add traceability, without thinking if its usefull, basically golden hammer syndrome
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 16:53 UTC
I cannot imagine the ffects Yamato's or Mushashi's guns would have.... 18" > 16" by a fair margin
also there's the thing with the GAU that it's backlash could overpower the engines and cause the Warthog to crash... Fact or Fiction?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 17:00 UTC
only the initial impulse slows it down, but there is simply too much kinetic energy in a warthog moving at 326 knots to stop with recoil
and its more like a bump than a rapid slowing
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 17:14 UTC
@Thairne basically it would take 3+ drums of ammo to even actually make a difference with slowing the plane
Relevant XKCD.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 17:18 UTC
Well see.
The way I heard is that it needed to fire short bursts or else crash n burn.
BUSTED! *stamp
GSH-6-30. Checkmate Gau-8.
Sovjet Russia won.
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 17:26 UTC
Ugh
That took way too much effort to be that civil
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 17:29 UTC
on reddit?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:30 UTC
" fuckingenglish forked
fuckingenglish/wh40k "
Did CAw make a new name?
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 17:31 UTC
@Thairne no his comments on #4668
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 17:32 UTC
i saw that too, earl
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:32 UTC
"buildings are part of the unlined faction witch the Ambull is."
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 17:32 UTC
there is a reason I stay away from support.
I'd be really bad for the customer base.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:32 UTC
Good fucking god where do these people come from
Will Pattison
@GenWilhelm
Feb 28 2019 17:32 UTC
wonder if it's someone who thinks we dont know how english works
Jon Kissinger
@alphalas
Feb 28 2019 17:33 UTC
Dafuq?
Can somebody explain to me what exactly the purpose of forking comments is?
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:35 UTC
There is none.
Dirk Bachert
@Thairne
Feb 28 2019 17:35 UTC
unless you find a reason why comments are supposed to run with version control.
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:36 UTC
From what I can piece together from Cawspeak, he's trying to link issues that have any sort of possible inkling to do with each other so that other people can find old issues easily.
He thinks he's doing us a favor by doing this.
Based on the issue Amis linked.
But then he talks about forking comments and I can't figure out wtf the purpose would be
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 17:47 UTC
https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/issues/4668#issuecomment-468368520 relevant response to why forts are staying right the fuck where they are
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 17:49 UTC
yup, that too
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 21:55 UTC
Bugs smashed
Unaligned cat now exists, here's hoping ambots are a thing for them too
or they give us an "hq" for unaligned soon :)
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 22:01 UTC
I'd totally run a random HQ + ambull + borewyrms and a set of spindles
Iain Launchbury
@Mad-Spy
Feb 28 2019 22:16 UTC
Do a Vanguard with HQ and 3 Ambulls :)
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 23:00 UTC
Curious, what was the aeldari fix?
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 23:01 UTC
Setting a modifier to set min to zero after the initial minimum
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 23:01 UTC
Huh
I wonder why it doesn't do it in the other cats
WindstormSCR
@WindstormSCR
Feb 28 2019 23:40 UTC
there was a req on the SE and the Root link
maybe that's why
Earl Bishop
@DrTobogganMD
Feb 28 2019 23:53 UTC
Oh that could be