For example, right now I cannot see what was the content that triggered such an action from you, and I can't really take it into account in future escalations. I just don't know what happened.
I can provide screenshots of The emails
:) Thanks, but that's not really my point - the point is to just avoid the "Delete" action if possible
In terms of actual need of ban or escalation I actually do trust you all :)
Fair fair
Was just saying I can provide context to this one
That last comment is the ...Wut?
@amis92 will do
sorry to change the subject, but are these in every catalogue?
or rather, linked in the gst?
GST I would assume, since they're UNALIGNED
like fortifications
would it not be a better idea to put them in their own cat?
since they have to be in their own detachment
Do they? I've not looked at that
well yeah, they dont shared a faction with anyone, so they cant join their detachments
I thought unaligned had a caveat that made it exempt from that
@/all you may want to read it https://github.com/BSData/bsdata/issues/217#issuecomment-468085028
only for the army faction, not for detachments
Well unfortunately for him, it's unhelpful, comes across as arrogant, and rude, and he doesn't fucking listen to logic or reason when we explain why he's wrong
ergo, he can fuck off and I'm not going to hold a pity party
Is the same@guy from the reddit post?
@amis92 So ... cross referencing issues that are similar type (potentially technically) so that they don’t get repeated or can be referred to as a solution?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ quite honestly
It sounds like a request to create a fork of some kind to document solutions and answers?
Step 1: learn to make coherent sentences so we can fucking understand you
I don't mind well meaning people, I mind well meaning people who don't listen, don't want to listen, and can't make themselves understood
He STILL does not make clear what he wants.
Regardless of what he wants he needs to not start referencing old issues that have nothing to do with current issues.
I don't want or care for his story or his disabilities, I want to know what the fuck he wants.
Is it OK if I continue not doing anything?? I'd love to help with this dude, but you guys seem to have it covered and heaven knows I also don't entirely understand what's going on :smile:
You're fone
*fine
there have been maybe 3 eldar bugs in the past month
Yea, craftworlds has been good for the most part
It's Astartes that is so interdependent on each other that some things get missed when updating other things - hence bugs for them
Perfect :+1:
So here's a conundrum
The Knight Valliant kit I got from china came with 2 Left-Side lower arm bits for the flamer :(
It'll be interesting carving those to fit each other lol
usually, depending on the recaster, the guys are actually quite nice when you ask them for the correct part
they might just send an entirely new kit and not go through the hassle of sending single parts...
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-mysteries-of-super-glue-some.html
an actual helpful article? I didnt new superglue has that short of a lifespan....
Looking at #4663. The rules for Battle Honours state the the unit gets the honours. The exemption for Vehicle Squadrons doesn't appear to apply because you can't split up the unit, so I think we've implemented it incorrectly?
Yeah I got these like back in August. So well past what I'd say is warrantee period lol
My fault
Iain is the battle honors on the unit or model
for units that split up after being set up, it applies separately to each of those units
otherwise it applies to the unit as a whole
It's currently set on the model, but I think it should be on the unit in this case, because you can't split up a unit of Tetras
yeah, in that case it should be a single one for the whole unit
@Mad-Spy Go ahead and push that commit for wolves
I was fixing it yesterday and Missed that part it seems
nw
done
Sweet.
And released. Fixing that wolf one warranted a quick release I think. Relics were still broken :p
Never go against a Fenrisian when death is on the line.
Ooo that's a good one for the next release
We have?
Though it wouldn't be hard. GST No Force Org, No Max limit, "Reinforcement Points" costs 1 pt each.
Yeah, I thought that when I saw @WindstormSCR's response as well :)
I still think it’s more effort then it’s worth tbh
it's basically no effort though?
Let's do that. :) Who volunteers?
I have editor open still, i'll pop it out real quick
while we're editing the GST, can we move the ambull and friends to somewhere else?
Sure, where would you like them?
probably their own cat
*and friends?
I only see Ambull
on and Bonewyrm
just those two?
yeah
should we have an unaligned cat for such units?
throw spindle drones in there as well
are we going to move all the Fortifications there as well?
i think that would only cause confusion tbh
and i dont see a need to, since fortifications can naturally soup
Hmm ok, so 1500 selections of a 1pt entry
BS might've maybe had a stroke when I tried it.
lmao
i did wonder about that
I haev another way
lol
Just thought it was funny
Yeah, there were at least 2 conversations about how to do reinforcements, either as a single thing, or as a “reinforcements” detachment in the GST, or a mix of both
That's the cleanest way to not make BS have an anurism if you want more than 100 points set aside
though the x## is redundant it seems
There
And hidden if open/narrative is selected
nice
As for ambul and friends does anyone have the rules handy for adding them into a force?
@DrTobogganMD could you do a force entry similar to unbound/aux support Labeled “reinforcements”
like what are the actual stipulations
And limit it to there?
I can do that
that way it won’t throw errors for battle forged armies like unbound does
helpful for daemons, resurrecting units, etc
@DrTobogganMD, they're just Unaligned, so they follow the rules for Unaligned units in the BRB
where similar units might cost different amounts and allows people to create a reference
So proper implementation of them would be - only visible in a list that has mixed/no tactics selected?
or in an Aux Support
which is why I just stuck them in for everybody.
and left the validation of the list to the user
Separate detachment causes issues
@DrTobogganMD thats a CWE bug you jst found :p
Or is it a bug for every cat that uses tactics?
most tactics don’t require the selector
nope, just cwe
silly elves.
and easily user solved by setting it to none
the fact that it doesn't auto-add the Craftworlds Attribute SSE to the second detachment is a BS bug, isn't it?
It shouldn't add it because I didn't use No Force Org
for that reason actually
I made a unique category
I see.
Tbh I’ve sent in an email to GW asking if they can review an exception for unaligned units not breaking tactics to make them easier to use
every unit in a detachment has to share a faction keyword. ambulls dont share any keywords with anyone, so they should be in their own cat
for the april FAQ
Oh so they can't actually be in a mixed detachment
aux only
stuffing all the unalinged stuff in a separate detachment labeled “monsters and gribblies” wouldn’t be a bad idea
yeah, with no HQs, they can currently only be used in aux support
yes they can. p214 of the BRB makes an exception for Unaligned units
All of the units in a matched play army, with the
exception of those that are UNALIGNED, must have at
least one Faction keyword in common (e.g. IMPERIUM
or CHAOS), even though they may be in different
Detachments.
exception of those that are UNALIGNED, must have at
least one Faction keyword in common (e.g. IMPERIUM
or CHAOS), even though they may be in different
Detachments.
so they can be in any army, but they'll break mono-Faction detachments.
for battle forged, but armies with tactics specify the whole detachment must be “faction”
exactly, they will break the tactics
they can be in any army. but detachment restrictions still apply
@Mad-Spy the cat approach can always be nested?
I propose “Unaligned - monsters and gribblies” for the cat title :P
Why? Just call it Unaligned.
Wtf Aeldari
because it amuses me, more than anything
?
Craftworld Attribute has the same force requirements necrons does, but necrons doesn't force the dynasty choice in reinforcements
huh, I’ll take a look later
make a bugrep for me?
(y) Alright
Otherwise reinforcements seems to work fine for the most part
awesome, should help the filthy chaos and tyranid players
yeah I had the same idea... and noticed the aneurism BS gets when the Assassin one showed up. So no forgetti that Reinforcements may cost CP also
thats easy to add I suppose, just add CP to that selection group?
They can? That's easy - I'll make a CP one.
yep
yeah, assassin reinforcements cost a CP + 85pts
I even advocated for a stratagem: get ass or something that has these costs
because that one will be used quite often I'd wager, the same as a relic stratagem
problem is any imperial force can use it, and there is no way to hide the entry based on chaos vs imperial etc
put in gst, only link in imperial cats?
(assuming the cypher shenanigan gets FAQed)
possible, or only unhide if force contains something with the “Imperium” category
yup, though I'd rise an eyebrow why tyranids would want to link the stratagem in the first place :D
well, if its root linked in GST as hidden by default, with a reveal condition of “includes Imperium in force”
There
I’ll do the assassin strat when I fix elves later
Ooo #4666 for the heretical elves issue.
demonic.
fitting considering the thing that found the bug is mostly used for daemons
haha
in German we call such things "gefährliches Halbwissen" aka dangerous half-knowledge.
When you assume you know stuff but you actually DONT and keep acting on your wrong assumptions you can cause quite a bit of trouble
Holy shit that's...beautiful
And a very real thing. English has no concept of such a thing, and boy does it need it
see? This man gets it :D
I’m already making a poster for the engineering lab using that
There are some people whom I would like to tattoo that on their foreheads
@Thairne what would the grammatically correct form of the phrase “Warning! Don’t let (dangerous half-knowledge) get you hurt or worse!” be
I know it's kind of ridiculous, but do any of you remember...I think it was Rumsfield...and his discussion about "unknowns"?
There are things we know -- the knowns
Nope, but now you have me curious
There are the we know we don't know, the "known unknowns"
And then there the things we don't know we don't know, the "unknown unknowns"
It sounds like doublespeak gibberish but when you break it down, it really does make sense
I learned about that from boondocks, great show
My love for The Boondocks is absolute
It's some of the most biting social commentary I've ever had the pleasure of seeing
I think my favorite is the N* moment section
and the subtitle (anyone can have one, but only black people seem to have a word for it)
Hm...
In German that sentence would be different. More like
"Vorsicht!! Gefährliches Halbwissen!" if it's a warning label just like "Attention! High Voltage!"
or you could say
"Vorsicht vor gefährlichem Halbwissen" which would be "Beware of dangerous half knowledge!"
or possibly closest to your wording in intent
"Lass gefährliches Halbwissen nicht die Oberhand gewinnen!" - "Dont let dangerous half knowledge get the upper hand!"
or, a bit more... historical
"Wehret dem gefährlichen Halbwissen!" which is a play on "Wehret den Anfängen"
"Wehret dem gefährlichen Halbwissen!" which is a play on "Wehret den Anfängen"
I don't even know enough German to be dangerous, but I think as a language it is superbly descriptive and direct. Almost like a language built by engineers.
And we wonder why for decades they had some of the best engineering... :thinking:
the simply ability to chain words is brilliant for expressing things... A door of a house? HAUSTÜR (housedoor)
you can just make words up as you go and everyone understands your meaning
decades they had some of the best engineering... :thinking:
I mean the language almost forces you to think a certain methodical way
More accurate is overengineering
hey man there's nothing wrong with over-engineering
everyone that drove shermans has no right critizing tigers :D
Tell that to the Maus
Or the Tiger
There are good reasons why I love BMWs
Maus is.. special. Insane hitler project. Just like T-1000 or even T-1500.
OR!
EVEN BETTER!
The g-11
H-44?
That is LITERALLY
G-11? never heard of that one
Germans going
Hmm how can we over engineer this gun as much as absolutely possible?
HK G-11
Caseless gun
CLOCKWORK gun
you know you'd love to be armed with that thing tho :P
Yes.
Yes he would.
As would I.
just like youd feel better driving a tiger and not a t-34 :P
because.. ya know... living is a thing
There’s a difference between over engineered into unreliability and under engineered unreliability
"That's a nice Sherman tank you have over there. Go ahead and shoot me with it. I'll wait."
you dont overengineer into unreliability
you overengineer into not being feasible anymore
you overengineer into not being feasible anymore
as good as a tank the tiger was, you couldnt keep up with the numbers
The driveline was over-engineered into unreliability tough. The transmission was so intricate it couldn’t stand up to service at all
and repairs were taking ages, yes
That is a failure of the hubris of over engineering
i'd still prefer a tiger to a sherman tho :D
I’d prefer 4 Sherman’s to one tiger
Which was about the ratio of cost
if you dont act like in Fury... a tiger in ambush could knock 4 shermans down
in material, not in lives.
but yes, that's the reason Germany lost
lots of shitty tanks > a few good tanks
look up the H-44 though. Double the weight and about 40% longerthan Yamato.
That would've been a ship to behold xD
That would've been a ship to behold xD
So same general concept as the super Iowa’s that were scrapped before their keels were laid down?
yup
hitler madness all over again.
hitler madness all over again.
The problem with super ships is canals
There are 2
And both are(were) marrow
Narrow*
in that case, even the German bay wouldnt be large enough to maneuver
The Iowas were about the biggest a ship could be to navigate the Panama Canal
but damn, 8 x 50.8cm would've made some holes :D
I doubt any German warship would cross the panama canal though anytime soon :DP
...and then anti-ship missiles came along and made battleships obsolete
ever watched Battleship the movie? Ridiculously bad, but there is a certain charme to 40.6cm guns that a missile launch just doesnt have :D
Battleship the movie .... Do NOT make me angrier than I already am !!
broadsiding them alien fuckers WAS cool though.
after the 5 80 year olds made the museum ship work *cough
"OH, wait I know ... let's just take out this old decommissioned ship and expect it to 'just work' with a crew of 6 and all this ammunition laying around ... oh and the barrels are atill totally clean and .. and ..." aaaaaaghhhhh
*16” guns
those old timers were Orks ... it's the only way the pure power of belief made that work !
It’s MURICAN
I’ve actually spent several days on the BB-62
Such a glorious ship
I propose a new system... MM (marine movement). 16" = 2 2/3 MM
about as logical :D
Those shells come up to a grown man’s chest
A new model pic!
They’re fucking massive shells
bad enough with 109mm howies when I was in the army ... "The CO wants a fully polished shell case for his umbrella stand ... go make it happen!"
And those sacks of powder behind them...
350mm even. I have a pic of me next to one and it's near shoulders.. and I'm not small with 190cm
that thing actually looks nice!
I was an armourer ... I got within spitting distance of the mini gun on the apache helicopter ... made me want to transfer to the Navy just to get more access to that toy
Mmmmmm
THAT ... is sufficient Dakka !!
Minigun? Apache? Wut?
Apaches have chain guns under the nose
(Father was Army Av; grew up around kiowas/Apaches/Blackhawks)
The D model Kiowa
I always like referring to the Gau Avenger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M230_chain_gun#/media/File:M230_Chain_Gun.jpg
Whatever it's called ... I want one
When discussing "Enough Dakka"
A gun so large a plane was built around it.
That was a bird
Tiny, agile, and packed a mean punch
is that the warthog ?
No, Gau-8 Avenger
Gigantic fucking chaingun
The Gau-8 is the warthog’s cannon yes
Yea, I guess it is on teh warthog
I love that meme for it though
I personally love the Phalanx
that's what I thought ... BRRRRRRRRT ! ... "Whadday mean we're out of ammo again!?"
“R2D2 was an angry spiteful soul”
Effective firing range Classified
Yup
You know you have a good gun with specs like that
lol
Can’t let people know how far out r2d2 can shoot down their missiles
I still love the storm refit of the Iowa’s
Added 4 patriot boxes and Phalanx
what is the r2d2 anyway
the radar?
Yup
The CIWS does not recognize IFF
R2D2 don't give a shit
Nope
If R2D2 sees you, you’re fucked lol
having played Arma3 as a helo pilot when AA radar sites pop ... I know that fear
Lol regarding the storm refit on Iowa’s:
At one point, the NATO Sea Sparrow was to be installed on the reactivated battleships; however, it was determined that the system could not withstand the overpressure effects from firing the main battery.
heh
hahaha
There’s actually a small structure on the aft deck of the New Jersey; it is one of the main access ladders to belowdecks from the deck
It’s made out of 2” steel
There is literally a dent in it
From the overpressure of the rear turret firing nearly fully depressed
how the hell does it not blows itself over sideways
I imagine the actual tippage(?) isn't worse than rather rough seas.
And it's momentary instead of sustained.
well, that's enough Mil-Pron for today .. I have to prepare for the arrival of the Death Guard
god damn that Mark 7 gun. 1/4 ton of powder, and can hit something 20 miles away.
Mmmmmhmmm
in the 40s.
ballistics is a sonuvabitch
I miss playing with guns
Was used in Vietnam and Storm as arty fire support
Imagine
You’re a grunt
In Iraq
And you call for arty
And instead of hearing an army gunner talk back to you
@WindstormSCR like that !
some 3D printing, plumbing parts, and old oats cans
You hear a NAVAL gunner talk back to you
using the old school terrain methods with a dash of new tech
haha. "Yea, I'm just 40km out, passing by. I'll chuck some shells your way."
old school
I own both books
"Dear Grid Reference ...!"
they're a fucking gold mine of ideas
Make Brian the Sewer Vent!!
right .. I'm out - O7 chaps
See that grey box just forward of the helipad, aft of the aft turret?
That’s the structure I’m talking about
With a fucking dent in it
I gotta see if I still have the pictures I took from when I encamped on the 62
Also just checked my emails
Ugh
Why does caw have to comment on everything?
lmao
Welcome to the party that is caw
I think he's trying to add traceability, without thinking if its usefull, basically golden hammer syndrome
I cannot imagine the ffects Yamato's or Mushashi's guns would have.... 18" > 16" by a fair margin
also there's the thing with the GAU that it's backlash could overpower the engines and cause the Warthog to crash... Fact or Fiction?
only the initial impulse slows it down, but there is simply too much kinetic energy in a warthog moving at 326 knots to stop with recoil
and its more like a bump than a rapid slowing
@Thairne basically it would take 3+ drums of ammo to even actually make a difference with slowing the plane
Relevant XKCD.
Well see.
The way I heard is that it needed to fire short bursts or else crash n burn.
BUSTED! *stamp
The way I heard is that it needed to fire short bursts or else crash n burn.
BUSTED! *stamp
GSH-6-30. Checkmate Gau-8.
Sovjet Russia won.
Sovjet Russia won.
Ugh
That took way too much effort to be that civil
on reddit?
" fuckingenglish forked
fuckingenglish/wh40k "
fuckingenglish/wh40k "
Did CAw make a new name?
@Thairne no his comments on #4668
i saw that too, earl
"buildings are part of the unlined faction witch the Ambull is."
there is a reason I stay away from support.
I'd be really bad for the customer base.
I'd be really bad for the customer base.
Good fucking god where do these people come from
wonder if it's someone who thinks we dont know how english works
Dafuq?
Can somebody explain to me what exactly the purpose of forking comments is?
There is none.
unless you find a reason why comments are supposed to run with version control.
From what I can piece together from Cawspeak, he's trying to link issues that have any sort of possible inkling to do with each other so that other people can find old issues easily.
He thinks he's doing us a favor by doing this.
Based on the issue Amis linked.
But then he talks about forking comments and I can't figure out wtf the purpose would be
https://github.com/BSData/wh40k/issues/4668#issuecomment-468368520 relevant response to why forts are staying right the fuck where they are
yup, that too
Bugs smashed
Unaligned cat now exists, here's hoping ambots are a thing for them too
or they give us an "hq" for unaligned soon :)
I'd totally run a random HQ + ambull + borewyrms and a set of spindles
Do a Vanguard with HQ and 3 Ambulls :)
Curious, what was the aeldari fix?
Setting a modifier to set min to zero after the initial minimum
Huh
I wonder why it doesn't do it in the other cats
there was a req on the SE and the Root link
maybe that's why
Oh that could be