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    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Dear users of the Media Suite, we are currently drafting the manuals for version 1. You can see them [here]. Please feel free to add here in this room your comments/suggestions/questions to what is unclear. Thanks!
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Welcome to this chat room about the user manuals/documentation of the Media Suite here. At this point, we are documenting the "Search" tool. If there is something you come across while using this tool which is not clear and not documented, please let us know :), also, any other input about the documentation/user manuals is welcome! Thank you in advance
    Kathleen Lotze
    @lotzekat
    Is there a possiblilty yet to save more bookmarked items to my Workspace, than results are displayed per page in the search interface? Example: based on a single-search query I get 100 results which are displayed across 5 pages (20 results p/p). In order to bookmark all 100 results, I have to repeat the bookmarking procedure 5 times. It would be great if I could bookmark all 100 results at once. Thanks, K.
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Hi Kathleen, welcome to Gitter! and thanks for your question/suggestion. We offer at the moment the option to bookmark individual items and all the results in a page, but not the total list of results for a query. For this purpose, we will include in version 3 the option to "save queries". I took note of your suggestion and will see if it is possible to include it as one of the improvements for the bookmarking functionality
    ps, you are also welcome to join the other Gitter rooms: https://gitter.im/CLARIAH-media-studies/
    Kathleen Lotze
    @lotzekat
    Thanks for this, Liliana! I have another question/suggestion: When working in my workspace, I cannot see quickly which items are viewable (and hence segmentable/annotatable), unless I bookmark them as (non)viewable. In the search interface, however, it is possible to see at once whether or not an item is viewable, because it is indicated with en eye-icon. Would it be possible to provide something like this in the work space environment as well?
    Kathleen Lotze
    @lotzekat
    In addition, it might be useful to provide an option in workspace for the user to choose in which format bookmarked items can be exported. Currently export is only possible in json-files, which need to be converted into csv or excel-files first in order to extract data.
    mwigham
    @mwigham
    Great that the documentation of the metadata fields is available. It would be good to extend this to allow more understanding of hte implications. For example, the museum description gives more contextual information. This can be misleading when you search for the name of a film, and find an item that is another film, where the searched film is mentioned in the context.
    mwigham
    @mwigham
    Model for archival knowledge about metadata fields and values - e.g. when were the fields used, how do fields relate to those used by other archives, are certain values linked, and how? Thesaurus/ontology. This would help in finding data and understanding the context. In Dana's presentation at the summer school she mentioned how it was hard to choose the right keywords without archival knowledge - to a certain extent we can model that knowledge and help people. For example, at Beeld and Geluid we could model that NOS Journaal used to be called Journaal - that way people find more results.
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Is there a possiblilty yet to save more bookmarked items to my Workspace, than results are displayed per page in the search interface? Example: based on a single-search query I get 100 results which are displayed across 5 pages (20 results p/p). In order to bookmark all 100 results, I have to repeat the bookmarking procedure 5 times. It would be great if I could bookmark all 100 results at once. Thanks, K.
    Thank you @lotzekat for your suggestion, and apologies for late reply. This facility has been also requested in the Single search tool chat, where we have explained some improvements (bookmarking all results per page, and saving your bookmarks across pages). Unfortunately, storing all the results from a query is not included at this moment, but we expect to support more advanced data manipulation via the Jupyter notebooks in the future.
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Thanks for this, Liliana! I have another question/suggestion: When working in my workspace, I cannot see quickly which items are viewable (and hence segmentable/annotatable), unless I bookmark them as (non)viewable. In the search interface, however, it is possible to see at once whether or not an item is viewable, because it is indicated with en eye-icon. Would it be possible to provide something like this in the work space environment as well?
    Thank you @lotzekat for this suggestion, it was added to the improvement list, for our reference: beeldengeluid/labo-components#207
    In addition, it might be useful to provide an option in workspace for the user to choose in which format bookmarked items can be exported. Currently export is only possible in json-files, which need to be converted into csv or excel-files first in order to extract data.
    Thank you again :). We will consider to add this in the future, but for version 4, since there are useful tools out there to convert from Json to CSV we will give priority to other bugs/features.
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Great that the documentation of the metadata fields is available. It would be good to extend this to allow more understanding of hte implications. For example, the museum description gives more contextual information. This can be misleading when you search for the name of a film, and find an item that is another film, where the searched film is mentioned in the context.
    Thank you @lotzekat Apologies for taking long in replying. You may have forgotten what this suggestion was referring to. If you still remember, could you please give us an example, so we can see more clearly how to support you in doing this analysis?
    Model for archival knowledge about metadata fields and values - e.g. when were the fields used, how do fields relate to those used by other archives, are certain values linked, and how? Thesaurus/ontology. This would help in finding data and understanding the context. In Dana's presentation at the summer school she mentioned how it was hard to choose the right keywords without archival knowledge - to a certain extent we can model that knowledge and help people. For example, at Beeld and Geluid we could model that NOS Journaal used to be called Journaal - that way people find more results.
    Thanks Mari @mwigham, happily you have been working on this since the summer school, and your suggestion matches the linked data work very well!
    mwigham
    @mwigham
    It would be helpful to make clear in the documentation that you must first execute the query before you can save it (and the link to the documentation about saved queries gives a 404)
    mwigham
    @mwigham
    Link in documentation for enrichments also gives a 404 https://mediasuite.clariah.nl/documentation/data/automatic-enrichments
    lilimelgar
    @lilimelgar
    Thanks @mwigham, I will update the documentation about the saved queries soon with @chrisgolesen_twitter. However, I don't see the 404 error... could you please send the link? I have these two for "Saved queries" (https://mediasuite.clariah.nl/documentation/howtos/save-queries), (https://mediasuite.clariah.nl/documentation/howtos/single-search#saved-queries), and this one for the automatic enrichments (https://mediasuite.clariah.nl/documentation/faq/is-data-enriched). Some of these links changed when I updated the documentation, so, if the link was in a tutorial previous to April 2019 it may be broken, but would be useful if you please send me the url to check it.